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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:29 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:[

ManBungalow wrote:PS. I think I'll include a simplified naming system in the next update. I was thinking of giving each of the three islands a name - let's say A, B and C. Then I could use double-digit numbers (00) as opposed to the three-digits we have now, and the log could show the regions as A01, A02....
What are your thoughts on this ?


This is a good idea.


I echo this, since...I suggested it I think! ;)

Subject: Marooned [6th/April]

AndyDufresne wrote:You have 3 islands, have you considered breaking it down that way, or adding a moniker in the naming convention to allow for easy name navigation that way?



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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby iancanton on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:26 pm

nolefan5311 wrote:I do think you might need to add a unique attack option or two because as it stands there are a few too many chokepoints. Maybe add a couple of long range attack spots or make the mountain peaks border each other or something so it's easier to hop between islands.

at the very least, let 091 connect to the food at 073 to make part of the northern island less easy to cut off and defend. with this extra connection, things are a bit more fluid.

long-range attacks need to have some rationale behind them if they're added. the back-story is a bit lacking at the moment.

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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby army of nobunaga on Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:46 pm

This is a big map of bullshit... sorry if you are offended.


but 200 more maps like this and you will help kill cc
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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby ManBungalow on Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:24 am

army of nobunaga wrote:This is a big map of bullshit... sorry if you are offended.


but 200 more maps like this and you will help kill cc

I suppose the typical response is to explain how people have different opinions, but it's not really worth it in this case; go post in some other thread where people might give a damn (or two if you're lucky). Or at least elaborate.

- You don't have to play this map (that's even if I ever finish it)
- We already have 100+ standard gameplay maps which are practically identical, but portray different geographical regions
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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby army of nobunaga on Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:02 pm

ManBungalow wrote:
army of nobunaga wrote:This is a big map of bullshit... sorry if you are offended.


but 200 more maps like this and you will help kill cc

I suppose the typical response is to explain how people have different opinions, but it's not really worth it in this case; go post in some other thread where people might give a damn (or two if you're lucky). Or at least elaborate.

- You don't have to play this map (that's even if I ever finish it)
- We already have 100+ standard gameplay maps which are practically identical, but portray different geographical regions
etc



Get mad if you want.

This will rival clandemonium. Well at least in that giant PoS there is some sort of difference in game play.

You guys ever stop to think that just because "I can make this Idea!" that it really may not be that good?


By all means make it. The Cow map looks better to me though, and I think you lose all friggin right to criticize ANY map if you are this blind on your own.
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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:50 pm

I think there is more than enough room for a map like this on CC. There aren't many maps that are dealing with an island theme like this, and the concept of being marooned and fighting for resources and shelter I think is interesting enough. Some actual story, as suggested by Ian may go a long way towards solidifying everything as well.

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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:57 pm

I discussed this with nolefan some days ago. I think that more than a story, this map needs a gameplay that reflects the map idea. I mean if I was on a desert island I would try to find a way to go away from that island, so maybe collect some objects to build a ship or a raft. Collect some objects to allow resecuers to locate you and take you away from the island. Food can stay, you need it to survive, but I think that the "main" point of this map should be to escape from the island, not live on it! ;)

I don't remember all the details I discussed with nolefan, maybe he can give you more inputs about this possible direction to follow/investigate fi you're interested.

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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:16 pm

I don't think you have to change the gameplay to be somthing like "Getting off the island" at least, ostensibly from the get go.

Think of this map as cover the first 100 days, and you are battling with the elements and others to survive and thrive. Then, you can decide about how to build your raft to get off the island once you are the king of it. ;)


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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:35 pm

oh, in that case the background story is the way to go. :)

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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:48 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:oh, in that case the background story is the way to go. :)

Haha, I don't know what is in ManB's mind, but maybe he can get some direction...and take the map a little somewhere!

Best of luck ManB,


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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby swimmerdude99 on Sat May 05, 2012 12:56 am

I really really really like this map, maybe it would be a cool idea to have some different bonuses like some of them can be autodeploys? like maybe a water source, or you could have wood and stuff too to be worth bonus, or make that an objective like was mentioned above, that might be fun, especially for freestyle 1v1
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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue May 08, 2012 2:10 pm

ManBungalow wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Hmm... a pretty open map this is.

Starting spots 124, 093 are almost identical.
Starting spots 116 and 110 are also identical. They are both strictly worse than 143 and 133.
Territories 080 and 135 is my personal favourite. Interesting formation down around 049-056.
037 is the worst possible starting location; should probably be beefed up a bit.

037 I feel has the advantage of being close to the 129/140 bonus pair, but still looks a little feeble, I'll grant.
I could remove region 044 if you feel that would make things better, or did you have something else in mind ?



I am only addressing this specific quote, but I am going to take into consideration the suggestions of others from this thread.

A few bombardable territories would work nicely, especially near the mountains. If not bombardments, then maybe 1-way attacks? I know that we don't the map to get too complex again, but it is fairly linear. I think everyone should get 2 starting locations, no matter how many players are in the game. I know there was a big ruckus in Clandemonium, but tbh, I would rather start small and then build rather than start everywhere. If some bombardments from mountains are added, then 037 could have a bombardment territory on the mountain beside it. If it was the only bombardment on the island, it would jump from the weakest starter to the strongest though, so some further thought is necessary.
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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby ManBungalow on Thu May 10, 2012 11:18 am

@cartographers:

Are you sure I can't have the Pink Floyd reference?
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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby Dunn Deegan on Mon May 14, 2012 8:39 pm

This map looks cool. I just found the link through the 'subliminal message.' I can't believe it's been in discussion for almost a year...I can't wait to play it :)
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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby nolefan5311 on Tue May 22, 2012 11:05 pm

Any updates on this on the horizon?
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Re: Marooned [6th/April]

Postby ManBungalow on Wed May 23, 2012 11:57 am

nolefan5311 wrote:Any updates on this on the horizon?

Sorry, it's a busy few weeks for me.

I know the progress overall of this map has been slow, and that perhaps the time between updates is longer than is typical of a map, but I will get this thing done.
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Re: [Vacation valid until December 2012] Marooned [6th/April

Postby nolefan5311 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:05 am

MOVED

It appears development on this map has stalled. Once an update has been made, let a CA know to get this moved back into the Foundry.
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Re: [Vacation valid until December 2012] Marooned [6th/April

Postby ManBungalow on Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:13 pm

Cool.
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Re: [Vacation valid until December 2012] Marooned [6th/April

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:09 am

Damn, I spent a lot of time analyzing this map. Perhaps you should find someone else to work with. This map is much better than the pirate experience, and it has some real potential; although I understand why you became stressed out over it.
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Re: [Vacation valid until December 2012] Marooned [6th/April

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:37 am

DoomYoshi wrote:Damn, I spent a lot of time analyzing this map. Perhaps you should find someone else to work with. This map is much better than the pirate experience, and it has some real potential; although I understand why you became stressed out over it.

Potential definitely.


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Re: [Abandoned] Marooned

Postby ManBungalow on Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:17 pm

I'm reviewing this map concept.

Here's a map of the gameplay I want it to have. More or less.

I figured I'd throw it out there while I experiment with some styles of graphics.

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Re: [Abandoned] Marooned

Postby koontz1973 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:36 pm

Great news that you are starting to look at this one again.
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Re: [Abandoned] Marooned

Postby swimmerdude99 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:49 pm

The upper left hand corner looks as though it may be very isolated, would you consider connecting with a bridge like you did in a couple other places?
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Re: [Abandoned] Marooned

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:02 am

swimmerdude99 wrote:The upper left hand corner looks as though it may be very isolated, would you consider connecting with a bridge like you did in a couple other places?

I do not think it needs it there. The map is open enough and having some blind areas is not a bad idea. Players need to make the choice, head up there or turn and go into the island.
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Re: [Abandoned] Marooned

Postby ManBungalow on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:04 pm

A couple of quick ideas here in the way of graphics.

Evidently, none are very fleshed out at all.

Experimentation is the key word.

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Standard Achievement (4) Doubles Achievement (4) Triples Achievement (3) Quadruples Achievement (3) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (3) Freestyle Achievement (4) Polymorphic Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2)
Fog of War Achievement (4) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (4) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (2)
Cross-Map Achievement (3) Beta Map Achievement (1) Battle Royale Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (4) Tournament Achievement (2)
General Achievement (10) Clan Achievement (12) Tournament Contribution (3) General Contribution (6)

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