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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby ndrs on Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:14 am

Peter Gibbons wrote:I like it, yes. Do you?


Yes, yes I do. I makes perfect sense to separate the yellows, and my intention from day one was to keep the mainlands down to green
and yellows as much as possible. Smaller blue regions certainly helps with that. Thanks for a great suggestion there! :)

AndyDufresne wrote:Does anyone think there is a need to add the pattern hatching for New Britian, Bougainville, and Manus-New Ireland to the little legend map?


I tried it but the mini map is smaller now compared to earlier versions. The hatches barely shows and mostly just
clutters the map.
And it has to be even small on the small map. :o
For me it's pretty clear as it is?

DiM wrote:also the lines are very pixelated.

Which lines are very pixelated? The sea connections?


Oh, and about the logs – all I know is that I swiped the texts from a decently reliable source... ;)
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby ndrs on Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:40 am

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- Tweaked the sea passages
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby gimil on Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:57 pm

I love the simplicity of this map mate. But I feel that the flat colour are just to flat...almost feeling plain than simplistic. Can I suggest that you add a very very very subtle texture over the top of the whole map? When I say subtle I mean basically unseeable...jut enough to break the flatness of the colour.

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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby pamoa on Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:56 am

gimil wrote:I love the simplicity of this map mate. But I feel that the flat colour are just to flat...almost feeling plain than simplistic. Can I suggest that you add a very very very subtle texture over the top of the whole map? When I say subtle I mean basically unseeable...jut enough to break the flatness of the colour.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby perchorin on Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:05 am

pamoa wrote:
gimil wrote:I love the simplicity of this map mate. But I feel that the flat colour are just to flat...almost feeling plain than simplistic. Can I suggest that you add a very very very subtle texture over the top of the whole map? When I say subtle I mean basically unseeable...jut enough to break the flatness of the colour.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby natty dread on Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:34 am

Maybe something like this could be done

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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby pamoa on Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:08 am

do you REALLY find it better ? :o
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby natty dread on Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:21 am

pamoa wrote:do you REALLY find it better ? :o


I think it's an interesting option, it would give the map a sort of fabric-like texture - as you see, it's not even very noticeable on the playable areas, it mostly shows on the sea.

I'm not saying it's better necessarily, but not worse either.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:31 am

I'm pretty indifferent on the slight texture vs not.


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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby gimil on Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:08 pm

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pamoa wrote:do you REALLY find it better ? :o


I think it's an interesting option, it would give the map a sort of fabric-like texture - as you see, it's not even very noticeable on the playable areas, it mostly shows on the sea.

I'm not saying it's better necessarily, but not worse either.


Yes natty. I was thinking something like that...but a little more subtle still!
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby Kabanellas on Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:51 pm

pamoa wrote:For me the flatness of colours are really the beauty of this map


Theres a plastic look, probably given by that flatness, that I really like and find quite unique on this map.

Nice work ndrs :)
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby DiM on Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:54 pm

DiM wrote:i find it disturbing that some terits have diagonal lines and some don't. i think you should find 3 more pastel colour and use those for the terits with diagonal lines.
also the lines are very pixelated.


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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby ndrs on Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:28 pm

Thanks guys for all the comments :)

As Kabanellas wrote, a plastic effect is what I was after – the smooth surfaces, bright colours and rather reflective.
I think adding a texturized surface would be to move away from that and probably calls for a different lightning as well.

That being said, I kinda agree with what gimil wrote. I think it could improve the map to bring some more life into it.
I''ll try to add some kind of texture to it and tweak the lightning, and then we can compare. I'm in no rush with this map
and happy to try it out.

I'll probably look into the title face again. The current one is in a late 19th century style, and even though it's beautiful it doesn't go that well with the graphical style. ;)

DiM wrote:i find it disturbing that some terits have diagonal lines and some don't. i think you should find 3 more pastel colour and use those for the terits with diagonal lines.
also the lines are very pixelated.


PS: i liked the leaves in the title.


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gimil wrote:Out of curiosity why do some regions have stripes whether others are plain?

It was to keep the colours down. I already asked. ;)


I'll see what I can do about the stripes. If I can find a couple of colours that doesn't make the map all tutti-frutti I'd be happy to change them!
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:20 pm

I rather like the texture natty tested out. I also like the use of the diagonal lines, though I think I preferred one of the previous drafts that mixed the hatched and solid between the mainland and the islands. And I miss the branch on the title! :(

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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby ndrs on Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:33 am

I'm in the process of trying out a faint wood-like texture. I like how this would give the map a small connection with the Pot Mosbi map.

Also, looking at the High Sea map, would it be possible to colour all the bonus regions in different green-yellow hues if I made the bonus borders thicker?
That way I could remove the striped regions and still avoid using pinks and reds.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby natty dread on Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:16 pm

It depends, if the colours are colourblind-friendly.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [11 Jan 2012][Pg. 7] old new layout + s

Postby ndrs on Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:29 am

Finally had some time to update.

Tried to add different textures to the surfaces but didn't like it at all and abandoned it.

Instead I decided to breath some life into the original idea by adding a slight bevel to the regions and
increasing volume overall, richer shadows and more contrast.


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Re: Papua New Guinea [21 Jan 2012][Pg. 9] V6

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:55 pm

I think this is changing, at first view of this new version i liked it, but then the shapes of the islands started to look like tablets (pills) on the tables (weird I know)...perhaps just a touch too much curvature on the top of the shapes ? Although it does give the perception of some releif, and PNG is very mountainous.
It could be step in the right direction without the shading though and a slight change-up in the colours.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [21 Jan 2012][Pg. 9] V6

Postby RedBaron0 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:08 am

Be aware too that the final image will be a .jpg, so there might be a bit of detail lost.... :/

I like the fact card for PNG, but it's bland, something little that can go next to this for a just a splash of cultural color? Flag perhaps?
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Re: Papua New Guinea [21 Jan 2012][Pg. 9] V6

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:51 am

Can I ask you to look at te sea routes. They start and finish at the top of the islands. It might look better if the start and finish at the bottom in the water.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [21 Jan 2012][Pg. 9] V6

Postby ndrs on Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:57 pm

Vacation, please. Will pick it up again sometime soon.
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Re: Papua New Guinea [21 Jan 2012][Pg. 9] V6

Postby RedBaron0 on Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:57 am

By request of the mapmaker: This map is on vacation. To return this map from vacation please contact a CA after an update has been made. If on vacation for an extended period time, the map may be reviewed for gameplay again to make sure it is within current Foundry guidelines. Gameplay stamp may be removed if the map is found to be deficient in any way.

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Re: [Vacation valid till Aug 2012] Papua New Guinea

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:16 am

Hope it is indeed soon!


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Re: [Vacation valid till Aug 2012] Papua New Guinea

Postby Peter Gibbons on Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:41 pm

Is there any way we can get this one finished? It won a contest, after all, and is not too far from completion. If ndrs won't pick it up, are there any procedures for someone else to do so since it was a contest winner? I really loved this design and would hate to lose it forever.
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Re: [Vacation valid till Aug 2012] Papua New Guinea

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:44 am

Peter Gibbons wrote:Is there any way we can get this one finished? It won a contest, after all, and is not too far from completion. If ndrs won't pick it up, are there any procedures for someone else to do so since it was a contest winner? I really loved this design and would hate to lose it forever.

I sent a quick PM to ndrs to ask him to come and continue this. If not, someone else can continue it soon but with all new graphics.
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