Conquer Club

nolefan5311 wrote:First things first, and I know I haven't posted in this thread much, but this is a very nice looking map.

Ok, first, I think you need to remove "The Gettysburg Campaign" from it's current spot, make it stand out on it's own. It's supposed to be an introduction to the map, but right now it sort of gets muddled in with all of the gameplay instructions.

I don't like that Lee can only be attacked by 3 regions (Ewell, Hill, and Longstreet) while Meade can be attacked by 7 regions. Even more unbalanced is that those 3 regions are then protected on both sides. It seems Meade is significantly more vulnerable to the rest of the map, and thus his bonus easier to break.

I think the legend needs quite a bit more sorting as well. For instance, break each of the Map Legend components out separately and indicate what they can do in their own little box, as opposed to how it currently is.

What are the dimensions of the map? I think it could stand to be enlarged a little bit so that things aren't so congested and that your legend markers (Troops, Battlefield, Cavalry, etc) can be a little easier to distinguish.

I'll admit I wanted to get something posted tonight because I haven't posted anything in a while, so that's a start. I will try to look closer at things soon, see if things make more sense when I'm not tired .

nolefan5311 wrote:... this is a very nice looking map.

trinicardinal wrote:An extremely nice looking map at this stage.

nolefan5311 wrote:Ok, first, I think you need to remove "The Gettysburg Campaign" from it's current spot, make it stand out on it's own. It's supposed to be an introduction to the map, but right now it sort of gets muddled in with all of the gameplay instructions.
I think the legend needs quite a bit more sorting as well. For instance, break each of the Map Legend components out separately and indicate what they can do in their own little box, as opposed to how it currently is.

trinicardinal wrote:I understand and agree with most of what nolefan is saying but I would suggest that the introduction to the map remain where it is... those who are interested in it will still read it and those who aren't will overlook it anyway and I honestly like the look of where it is

nolefan5311 wrote:What are the dimensions of the map? I think it could stand to be enlarged a little bit so that things aren't so congested and that your legend markers (Troops, Battlefield, Cavalry, etc) can be a little easier to distinguish.

nolefan5311 wrote:I don't like that Lee can only be attacked by 3 regions (Ewell, Hill, and Longstreet) while Meade can be attacked by 7 regions. Even more unbalanced is that those 3 regions are then protected on both sides. It seems Meade is significantly more vulnerable to the rest of the map, and thus his bonus easier to break.

koontz1973 wrote:pamoa, from me a couple of things. In assault conditions can you swap the army and corps commanders around. Army commander seems to be higher in rank so should come first.

koontz1973 wrote:Secondly, do you have room to increase the text size at all. I am finding it slightly hard to read at the moment (not imposable) but with the conditional border, it might be nice to see if the text itself can become easier to read. It might be the italics.

Again this is the small map

Assault Conditions (actual)
to attack through a Battlefield
you must hold your respective
Corps or Army Commander,
i.e. to attack Rock Creek
Johnson troops must hold
Ewell (Corps) or Lee (Army)

Oneyed wrote:to attack Rock Creek must player holds Slocum Troops and Meade or any Union General?

Oneyed wrote:have Union Generals also bombardment ability? because according legend only Army or Corps Commanders have this ability. you have only Corps Commanders in Union Army, if I am not wrong yes?

Oneyed wrote:what about to do Gettysburg as battlefield too? it was the goal of battle - Gettysburg was important crossroad.

Oneyed wrote:cavalry could have another ability as attack range of two. Lee sent his cavalry to attack Unionist from behind, maybe add to cavalry alike ability...

pamoa wrote:to attack Rock Creek from Slocum Troops one must hold Meade (Army Commander)

pamoa wrote:your right only Corps and Army Commanders can bombard each-other

pamoa wrote:and Corps Commander are only in Confederate Army
as in reality Confederate Corps were larger and more autonomous
than Union Corps (represented by Union Generals on this map)
which were smaller and under "straight" control of Meade

pamoa wrote:yes Lee did so and Meade anticipated it by sending his cavalry at the same position east of the main battlefield
and giving a range of two gives that kind of back door effect
but maybe you have a smart idea here

Oneyed wrote:then the map is very unbalanced
the Union side has big disadvantage - they can move take battlefields only if holds Meade
the Confederate have 4 ways (Lee + 3 Corps commanders)...
...
then again Unionist can bombard only from Meade

pamoa wrote:and Corps Commander are only in Confederate Army
as in reality Confederate Corps were larger and more autonomous
than Union Corps (represented by Union Generals on this map)
which were smaller and under "straight" control of Meade

Oneyed wrote:the autonomy of generals is question
some Union generals did not heart Meade
and the Union generals on your map were Corps commanders
so I think because this also because gameplay make some of them important as Confederate Corps commanders, I think.

pamoa wrote:yes Lee did so and Meade anticipated it by sending his cavalry at the same position east of the main battlefield
and giving a range of two gives that kind of back door effect
but maybe you have a smart idea here

Oneyed wrote:maybe if player holds union cavalry + Meade he can attack Confederate Johnson, Ewell, Rodes/Early (so confederate units on connected "doubled" route)
and Confederate Cavalry + Lee can attack Union Sedgwick Baltimore Pike, Taneytown Road, Sedgwick Big Round Top.

or have both cavalries and Lee to attack any Unionist on "doubled" route and both cavalries + Meade to attack any Confederate on "doubled" route.

pamoa wrote:well the gameplay is not symetrical
but first remember how conditional border works
one doesn't have to hold the "key" at the beginning of the round
it can be taken during one's round and (as in losing condition) immediately the attack route is open
so in our case the advantage is for Meade which trigger six attack routes
instead if you take Ewell you only have two attack route open
and then either you take Lee to open all the Confederate attack routes
or another Corps Commander to open two other routes
but the balance came that as you have to put more troops to open those doors
it is more expensive for Meade to bombard them all

pamoa wrote:the double route has no real meaning for me

pamoa wrote:but what you describe can be achieved with a range of 3
the problem is it is a too big advantage for the first goer
you take cavalry then the 2 territory behind
and next turn your opponent has to take 3 positions to come back
with 2 it is more balanced

your second idea of making cavalry attack a conditional border linked to Army Commander may be nice
it would be without Army Commander you have a normal direct attack range
but if you hold your Army Commander you get an attack range of 2 or 3