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Re: Indian Subcontinent

Postby snufkin on Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:38 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
My main problem is the number of territories. I only have about 24 or 25. I'm not so sure on how to further divide the territories. Any thoughts on this problem will be appreciated.

Also, how do you guys feel about the textures?


I think the textures are a bit too strong - try others and perhaps also lower the opacity on that layer.

here´s an idea on how to split up Balochistan - the princely states/provinces before 1955 but still in use after the independence:
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Vidarbha seems to be considered a somewhat distinct region from the rest of the Maharashtra state, both historically and contemporary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidarbha

What number of territories are you aiming for?
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Postby fireedud on Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:56 pm

I hope you get this quenched, I think this is the 3rd or 4th try at India.
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Re: Indian Subcontinent

Postby InkL0sed on Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:06 pm

snufkin wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:
My main problem is the number of territories. I only have about 24 or 25. I'm not so sure on how to further divide the territories. Any thoughts on this problem will be appreciated.

Also, how do you guys feel about the textures?


I think the textures are a bit too strong - try others and perhaps also lower the opacity on that layer.

here´s an idea on how to split up Balochistan - the princely states/provinces before 1955 but still in use after the independence:
Image


Vidarbha seems to be considered a somewhat distinct region from the rest of the Maharashtra state, both historically and contemporary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidarbha

What number of territories are you aiming for?


The textures are still completely up in the air.

Baluchistan seems like a good idea, I will put that in.

I'd like to have around 40 territories, but I suppose I could settle for something like 36. Or I could just deal with the fact that it's a large landmass, but a small map.
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Postby InkL0sed on Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:41 pm

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Changes:
-Added army circles
-Added territory names
-Split some more territories, for a grand total of 32-ish
-Changed mountain texture back to the original
-Brightened up the water with a new, slightly opaque layer, so the texture is almost invisible
-Added the Ganges River as an impassable (and diverted greatly to fit the gameplay)
-Added another continent
-Added a legend
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Postby Sir. Ricco on Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:45 pm

Nice, but I don't like the Asia part.
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Postby whitestazn88 on Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:15 pm

if you're going for geographical accuracy, im all for it, but a river running thru a territory is kinda weird, especially the way it looks now. clean it up a little?
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Postby InkL0sed on Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:39 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:if you're going for geographical accuracy, im all for it, but a river running thru a territory is kinda weird, especially the way it looks now. clean it up a little?


I could move it closer to the border of Uttar... but I don't think I can bear to make it follow the border perfectly where it makes that little horn-shape. That would be too strange.
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Postby Unit_2 on Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:54 pm

you need to learn about GIMP and stuff...its not hard you just need to look at some tutorials and stuff.... i got from of this image:
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This(the borders don't look so great because i didn't work on it long):

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Postby InkL0sed on Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:12 pm

Unit 2, I appreciate that you're trying to be helpful, but like I've already told you, I don't even use GIMP.

I also know how to use the brush tool :roll:

Nor did I ask you to work on the map.
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Postby Unit_2 on Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:22 pm

i didn't say that you did...i'm just showing you that you can do better...
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Postby InkL0sed on Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:25 pm

Unit_2 wrote:i didn't say that you did...i'm just showing you that you can do better...


Don't worry, I intend on improving it :wink:
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Postby oaktown on Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:17 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:if you're going for geographical accuracy, im all for it, but a river running thru a territory is kinda weird, especially the way it looks now. clean it up a little?

I think InkL has the right idea in putting the army circle on the river in such a way that it can't be confused as two territories... it can work.
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Postby MrBenn on Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:05 am

The changes you're making are definately in a positive direction.

I'm still not keep on the brown land texture. Could you try something similar to the ocean texture, but in brown??
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Postby InkL0sed on Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:22 pm

MrBenn wrote:The changes you're making are definately in a positive direction.

I'm still not keep on the brown land texture. Could you try something similar to the ocean texture, but in brown??


I'm planning on doing something like that.
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Re: Indian Subcontinent[Version 3, pages 1+2]

Postby InkL0sed on Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:38 pm

Version 4:
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Changes:
-Did the same thing to the mountain texture that I did to the water.
-Emboldened the borders
-Reduced opacity of army circles
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Postby Coleman on Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:59 pm

I suspect that may be suffering some jpg compression issues so I won't complain about the blurriness.

I will complain about the legend. Is that bright textured box really necessary? Do those words and the impassible show up poorly on the normal background?
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Postby InkL0sed on Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:07 pm

Coleman wrote:I suspect that may be suffering some jpg compression issues so I won't complain about the blurriness.

I will complain about the legend. Is that bright textured box really necessary? Do those words and the impassible show up poorly on the normal background?


Good catch, they are indeed jpegs. Should I be converting to a different format from psd?

I don't know why I thought the box was necessary, I'll remove it.
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Postby Coleman on Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:09 pm

png usually works well. There is better then that but then the files are too big to upload.
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Postby Emperor_Metalman on Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:23 am

#1. Split up the larger territories
#2 Move some of the Central India territories to other continents and lower the central india bonus to <8
#3 Eastern india should have a bonus of at least +2
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Postby InkL0sed on Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:28 am

Emperor_Metalman wrote:#1. Split up the larger territories
#2 Move some of the Central India territories to other continents and lower the central india bonus to <8
#3 Eastern india should have a bonus of at least +2


1) Maybe. Right now there are 32 territories, a fine number. If I can find a way to get it up to 36, I'll probably do that.

2) I don't see a nice way to do that. Adding Nepal as a continent was a start. Any suggestions?

3) I disagree. It has one border territory, and it borders Nepal, a hold-able continent.
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Postby iancanton on Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:00 pm

InkL0sed wrote:now there are 32 territories, a fine number. If I can find a way to get it up to 36, I'll probably do that.


bangladesh splits neatly into four real (not made-up) states: khulna west of the river, rajshahi in the north-east, chittagong in the south-east and dhaka in the central east, straddiling the river.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/bangladesh/b ... l-map.html

if u feel that the area is too crowded (it's supposed to be crowded because it has a huge population), then i suggest that u draw a large version of bangladesh in a box, in the bottom right corner, with dashed lines to the main map.

we're seeing nothing on the map just now that gives any importance to bangladesh, so it'll be good if u redress the balance a bit by doing this.

ian. :)
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Postby InkL0sed on Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:36 pm

iancanton wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:now there are 32 territories, a fine number. If I can find a way to get it up to 36, I'll probably do that.


bangladesh splits neatly into four real (not made-up) states: khulna west of the river, rajshahi in the north-east, chittagong in the south-east and dhaka in the central east, straddiling the river.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/bangladesh/b ... l-map.html

if u feel that the area is too crowded (it's supposed to be crowded because it has a huge population), then i suggest that u draw a large version of bangladesh in a box, in the bottom right corner, with dashed lines to the main map.

we're seeing nothing on the map just now that gives any importance to bangladesh, so it'll be good if u redress the balance a bit by doing this.

ian. :)


I'm not crazy about that idea – I'm trying to keep the map clean – but if others agree with you, I'll see what I can do.
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Postby fumandomuerte on Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:12 pm

Coleman wrote:png usually works well. There is better then that but then the files are too big to upload.


When you work with only vectors and no raster layers, PNG save small files with a great quality...

I don't think that the use of JPG compression is the indicated for this map.

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Postby InkL0sed on Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:06 pm

Version 5:
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Changes:
-Image is now a png
-Dulled the yellow of Southern India
-Removed box of legend
-Upped opacity of army circles a tad
-Fixed a few minor things (like the little white line in the border by Baluchistan seen in previous versions)
-Changed positions of some army circles and labels.

Do West Bengal and Bangladesh look better in this version?
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Postby InkL0sed on Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:17 pm

A question for the mods:

What will it take for this map to get [Adv Idea] attached? From the criteria I see in the How Maps Progress Through the Foundry thread, it seems like I should get it.

If you put up a good enough draft and show your willingness to work through the process [Advanced Idea] will be added to the end of your post so other users know you have a real map running.


Is this draft not good enough? If so, what do I need to fix?
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