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Re: Switzerland v8--April 13--PAGE 1+3

Postby t-o-m on Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:41 pm

Kaplowitz wrote:And i havent read that much of the other thread, but IMO that last post ^^^ was handled very well and professionally!

lol for once

i just dont like you attitude Z, ok ending now,

lol about the monitor - im using a different comp now and it still looks dark, bur less dark ;) - i like bright things lol , just my opinion
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Re: Switzerland v8--April 13--PAGE 1+3

Postby Ruben Cassar on Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:47 pm

I am colour blind and I am having big troubles differentiating those colours. They need changing.

Also may I suggest using the three official languages of Switzerland for the name of the map or maybe under Switzerland: Schweiz, Suisse and Svizzera.
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Re: Switzerland v8--April 13--PAGE 1+3

Postby ZeakCytho on Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:29 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:I am colour blind and I am having big troubles differentiating those colours. They need changing.


Do you think it would work if the current colors were shifted around to create more contrast between each continent? Right now all the similarly colored continents are adjacent to each other. If you switch the color of the two +5 regions, for example, you'd get a lot of contrast that would differentiate them better. Along with new colorations, this could be considered in the poll.
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Re: Switzerland v8--April 13--PAGE 1+3

Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:48 am

ZeakCytho wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:I am colour blind and I am having big troubles differentiating those colours. They need changing.


Do you think it would work if the current colors were shifted around to create more contrast between each continent? Right now all the similarly colored continents are adjacent to each other. If you switch the color of the two +5 regions, for example, you'd get a lot of contrast that would differentiate them better. Along with new colorations, this could be considered in the poll.


Yes that could be a solution, but I think at least one of them needs to be changed or at least given a different tone.
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Re: Switzerland v8--April 13--PAGE 1+3

Postby Kaplowitz on Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:00 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:I am colour blind and I am having big troubles differentiating those colours. They need changing.


Do you think it would work if the current colors were shifted around to create more contrast between each continent? Right now all the similarly colored continents are adjacent to each other. If you switch the color of the two +5 regions, for example, you'd get a lot of contrast that would differentiate them better. Along with new colorations, this could be considered in the poll.


Yes that could be a solution, but I think at least one of them needs to be changed or at least given a different tone.

Sure i can do that. I think that would be the best color scheme considering colorblind people
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Re: Switzerland v8--April 13--PAGE 1+3

Postby Kaplowitz on Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:03 pm

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Is this better at all?
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby CatfishJohnson on Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:06 pm

whao i like it man NICE, the font MIGHT be a lil non readable or w/e but nice
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby ZeakCytho on Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:18 pm

Nice job, especially with the BG and color-flipping!

Few things, of course:
Could you move the Svizzera/Schweiz/Suisse text to the left a few pixels? Also, is the S in Suisse lined up with the others? I can't quite tell, but it doesn't look like it is.
The army circle for Zug could cause problems with border-visibility when numbers are in there. Maybe it would work better to put the circle in the southeast of the territory and move the word Zug northwest a tad.
The army circle for Chur overlaps the border. You've got plenty of room there, so you could easily move it down a few pixels.
The army circle for St. Moritz does this too. You probaby have room to fit it to the left of where it is now.
Guess what...another army circle! This time, it's in Neuchatel. You could move the text south and the circle southwest to fit it in.
Jura's circle might fit in that little peninsula area north of where it is now if you move the text
Obwalden's text and circle overlap a bit; you can move the circle down a few pixels

*Phew* I think that's everything for now.

Edit: Shouldn't this be an advanced idea by now?
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby Kaplowitz on Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:31 pm

Ill fix those above adjustments when i get a chance
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby gimil on Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:39 am

[adv. idea]
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby Ogrecrusher on Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:09 am

Needs more Mountains! It's Switzerland after all!

I like it, keep up the good work!
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby bryguy on Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:15 am

Ogrecrusher wrote:Needs more Mountains! It's Switzerland after all!

I like it, keep up the good work!



i concur, it does need more mountains
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby gimil on Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:18 am

I still dont agree with the general theme of coor scheme your going with. Type switerland in google andtake inspiration from their. If your making a country map I feel it should have some kind of feel to that country.
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby cairnswk on Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:36 pm

gimil wrote:I still dont agree with the general theme of coor scheme your going with. Type switerland in google andtake inspiration from their. If your making a country map I feel it should have some kind of feel to that country.


Agreed. gimil.
Kap....the gray background makers this map feel like it has something austere about it....quite far removed from what Swisse is actually about/like.
Whites (snow), Blues(sky and lakes), Browns to greys(mountains), Greens(lush meadows), Yellows and those hues (Alpen flowers) and red(flag) and Chocolate (Mmmmmm yummy) should be the colours for Swisse.

The white on the borders and the glow on text is simply overpowering on that grey background.

I do however like the title font, and the clarity of the tert font.

And i think i would like to see lots of snow-capped mountains on this map.
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:59 pm

The Ticino and Graubunden regions' colour schemes are still too similar.

You need to give the map a lighter, livelier theme. The shade of the graphics is a bit too dark and dull. Lighten them up a bit.

Regarding the landscape...Switzerland is famous for its many mountains, lakes and rivers. Try to add more of those elements.
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby Kaplowitz on Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:45 pm

Im going to be in London until next Saturday with internet access, but no photoshop...so i cant update for a while. I will try to think of some things to make it more Switzerlandy though by using better colors and adding more mts/water
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby cairnswk on Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:57 am

Kaplowitz wrote:Im going to be in London until next Saturday with internet access, but no photoshop...so i cant update for a while. I will try to think of some things to make it more Switzerlandy though by using better colors and adding more mts/water


Have fun Kap. :)
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby t-o-m on Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:42 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Kaplowitz wrote:Im going to be in London until next Saturday with internet access, but no photoshop...so i cant update for a while. I will try to think of some things to make it more Switzerlandy though by using better colors and adding more mts/water


Have fun Kap. :)

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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby Astoria on Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:40 pm

in my opinion colors are good but for the brown(orange) one
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Some corrections from switzerland

Postby pamoa on Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:09 pm

good job Kaplowitz, i was to suggest to do a map of my own little switzerland but just saw you allready did the job, great!
Here are some suggestions:
About names:

Schaffhausen
Basel (without Landschaft) city name is enough
Appenzell (without Rhoden) you should specify inner or outer or it doesn't mean anything
Unterwalden for both ob (high) and nid (low)
Bienne instead of Grenchen wich is a less important city

I'll send you by mail some suggestions for montains as the ones you put are situated right in the middle of a the lowlands! but could be changed in a river wich does actually exist the Aar.

An other very important point about the county grouping. Swtizerland is a democracy founded in 1291 by the alliance of the 3 central county Uri, Schwyz and Unterwald against the austrian emperor. So I think it is important to make a single group for those 3 with some special bonus. It is very important if you want your map make any sense!
So i'll put Bern and Thun with yellow as Bienne (Grenchen) is part of Bern county in reality. Luzern and Glarus with brown. And change Ticino wich is italian speaking with cyan as Graubünden county is also partially italian speaking.
Maybe you can consider putting Fribourg and Neuchâtel with violet as they are mainly french speaking zone and so the language "barrier" (we say it so) would be respected.

A last point, the color on the bonus map didn't match the ones on the map itself

I hope you don't mind all my remarks but i like my country to be respected!
Again great job! =D>
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Re: Some corrections from switzerland

Postby greenoaks on Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:39 pm

pamoa wrote:good job Kaplowitz, i was to suggest to do a map of my own little switzerland but just saw you allready did the job, great!
Here are some suggestions:
About names:

Schaffhausen
Basel (without Landschaft) city name is enough
Appenzell (without Rhoden) you should specify inner or outer or it doesn't mean anything
Unterwalden for both ob (high) and nid (low)
Bienne instead of Grenchen wich is a less important city

I'll send you by mail some suggestions for montains as the ones you put are situated right in the middle of a the lowlands! but could be changed in a river wich does actually exist the Aar.

An other very important point about the county grouping. Swtizerland is a democracy founded in 1291 by the alliance of the 3 central county Uri, Schwyz and Unterwald against the austrian emperor. So I think it is important to make a single group for those 3 with some special bonus. It is very important if you want your map make any sense!
So i'll put Bern and Thun with yellow as Bienne (Grenchen) is part of Bern county in reality. Luzern and Glarus with brown. And change Ticino wich is italian speaking with cyan as Graubünden county is also partially italian speaking.
Maybe you can consider putting Fribourg and Neuchâtel with violet as they are mainly french speaking zone and so the language "barrier" (we say it so) would be respected.

A last point, the color on the bonus map didn't match the ones on the map itself

I hope you don't mind all my remarks but i like my country to be respected!
Again great job! =D>
those are the best comments on this map i have seen so far.
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby pamoa on Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:31 am

If you change your grouping territories limits and put Bienne (Grenchen) in the yellow group then spell it in german Biel
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby wcaclimbing on Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:47 pm

The graphics for this map are coming along nicely, as well as the gameplay (well, there's not much to change about gameplay thats based off of a real area, but it looks ok for this map setup.) The bonuses looks to be ok, also.

Just a few things (well, a lot of minor things):

the colors on the bonuses section are different from the big map. The orange and purple need to switch places.
EDIT: ah, I see that was already pointed out by a previous poster.... moving on now:

Could you make the title on the map a bit less blurry? and remove/fade the shadowy looking effect behind the text under "switzerland"? the combination of the double lines (caused by the shadows and the text) and the blur just isn't being nice to my eyes right now.... make it more of a shadow and less of a second set of lines.

There are a few places where the territory names are partially obscuring the border lines, making them difficult to see in some places:
LAUSANNE: the NE at the end kinda messes with the borders behind it. You can still see what's going on there, but moving it a few pixels to the bottom-left might help.
BASEL-LANDSCHAET: the HAET part is really messing with the background here. With the mountains ending and the text obscuring the boundary, it kinda looks like BASEL-LANDSCHAET can attack AARGAU.... but it kinda doesn't. Moving the text a bit or extending the mountains would solve that problem.

At the OBWALDEN, LUZERN, SCHWYZ, URI intersection, it almost looks like a 4-way corner. all 4 corners coming together, and its difficult to see what attacks what. could you make the OBWALDEN-SCHWYZ border a bit longer so it's easier to see? not to mess with the geography, just to show that it is possible to attack between those two, and to help out the people that don't have very good eyesight and might not be able to tell what attacks what in there.

Good luck with this map. I like it so far.
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby Kaplowitz on Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:34 am

Wow! Thats a lot! Okay, ill fix all of those things! As for the poll, it is still pretty close...ill give it a little more time.
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Re: Switzerland v9--April 16--PAGE 1+5

Postby Kaplowitz on Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:55 am

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-Moved army dots
-Changed names
-fixed 4 way border
-moved mts
-changed BG (cairns' colors)

So far the poll is 13-5, not much help.
As for mts and lakes, the maps on Google basically say that mts are everywhere! A little help pamoa if you know?
If i missed anything please tell me!
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