TaCktiX wrote:I fourth Incandenza's freeway initiative. It'd be an interesting, and city-appropriate twist to LA. Take NYC for example: when people think about getting around New York, they think subway. When people think about getting around LA...they think of massive gridlock on the interstates.
Incandenza wrote:1. I think you could get rid of Orange and the San Gabriel Valley, compact the map, and have more detailed neighborhoods (like Los Feliz, Koreatown, Lincoln Heights, Mar Vista, Naples, etc.) Basically make it a "true" Los Angeles map, as opposed to a Los Angeles Greater Metropolitan Area map.
Incandenza wrote:2. Also, freeways were mentioned above, but I'd like to go into more detail about the concept: how about having the 101, 5, 405, 10, maybe the 605, 710, 105, etc, interspersed with onramps and the obvious interchanges. Then you could have one-way attacks on the freeways (in both directions: i.e. 101 North Silverlake would be able to attack 101 North Hollywood as well as 101 Hollywood Offramp, and 101 South Burbank would be able to attack 101 South Hollywood and 101 Hollywood Offramp, but 101 North Hollywood would NOT be able to attack 101 South Hollywood). It would be like a weird synthesis of a traditional geographic map like you have here and Circus Maximus (and it would be unlike anything else on the site). The advantage of the freeways is that you'd be able to (theoretically) only have to kill, say, three terits to get from Santa Monica to Downtown. The disadvantage, of course, is that someone puts a big honkin' army somewhere on the 10 East and creates the dreaded gridlock...
Incandenza wrote:3. I don't think you need landmarks or any such, unless you were going to compact it further and go some sort of kitschy Maps of the Stars Homes sort of map. L.A. is a big tourist destination, but it seems to lack many of the traditional sorts of tourist spots like New York or Paris have. People go to Disneyland, the beach, and Hollywood, all of which could theoretically just be terits.
oaktown wrote:Incandenza wrote:1. I think you could get rid of Orange and the San Gabriel Valley, compact the map, and have more detailed neighborhoods (like Los Feliz, Koreatown, Lincoln Heights, Mar Vista, Naples, etc.) Basically make it a "true" Los Angeles map, as opposed to a Los Angeles Greater Metropolitan Area map.
My concern about eliminating the valleys is that we'd be left with a big flat square with no impassables. Anyway, if we're going to include freeways - which I'm on board with - it makes more sense to me to keep the map stretched out and run them long distances... 101 and the 5 from the valley, the 10 running east west through everything. etc.
oaktown wrote:Gridlock on the 10? Never. (I fondly remember the day that I spent 20 minutes driving from downtown to UCLA, and two hours getting back.)
But yes, freeways could be fun. One way to go about this would be to make them separate territories, like NY; I'm not sure that this makes as much sense as it did with the New York subway, since that's a distinct underground system with its own stations, but it would give due power to the LA freeway system.
oaktown wrote:Another way to go would be to just run freeways through territories and give those territories special powers. You could give a bonus to holding all territories that link a freeway top to bottom. You could also allow freeway territories to do ranged attacks - say, you can attack neighboring territories as well as any territory that is two terits away via a freeway. Downtown LA and Burbank would then be able to attack each other by passing through Glendale on the freeway, even if you don't actually own Glendale. Thus nobody actually "owns" a stretch of freeway until you own the entire thing.
oaktown wrote:Agreed. When it comes time to think about the graphics I intend to add fun stuff like the Hollywood sign, Watts Towers, and Space Mountain, but that'll just be gravy.
Bones2484 wrote:I guess my question with the freeway bonus that you brought up would be what are the points of interchanges? If the bonus is only getting applied to territories along the same freeway then we aren't taking advantage off all the crossings. I can't even begin to imagine the confusion that would be caused by the territory per section of the freeway bonuses.
I still like your original idea of making it possible to attack along freeways a few set spaces away.
Bones2484 wrote:We can even work "sig alerts" in to this and make some freeways "better" than others by allowing you to attack more spaces away. I'd love to see the 10 only allow 2 space attacks while the 57 (for example) can attack up to 4 away. Although I have to admit that I don't know how that would work after changing freeways at an interchange.
Bones2484 wrote:edit: I *love* the Hollywood sign in there by the way!
oaktown wrote:gosh, thanks! There will be more fun stuff like that with each new version, I hope. Any requests? I was thinking Watts Towers might be next.
mibi wrote:those mountain wreak havoc with the perspective.
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