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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby rocky mountain on Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:54 pm

i like this map. the graphics in my opinion are great. the only thing that i see right now is that the red chinese letter in the bottom is the lighter red. i think it should be the medium darkness colour.
i guess i also agree with seamusk about the names outside the territory completely. it does kinda throw you off. maybe make it just a little closer?
i like this set-up better than the one before. :D

(p.s.- i think this should get advanced soon...)
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby oaktown on Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:24 pm

seamusk wrote:you know, I've always liked this map gameplay wise. Gameplay is its strength right now.

Agreed. Though some clarification about the bonuses is necessary - is the kingdom bonus inclusive of the region bonuses, or in addition?

seamusk wrote:Not sure I'm crazy about the graphics though. They aren't terrible, but the map is very very dark. I tend to avoid dark maps and I'm sure others do too.

This was my exact comment. I get that you're going for a darker, more ominous look than other maps - the dark ages of China so to speak. But you can use dark colors and still retain contrast and keep it visually engaging - right now it's not just dark, it's somehow dim - its as if you've use the same pastels we see on most maps but just washed them out a bit. Maybe that's it - the colors themselves aren't really "dark" colors - pink, sky blue, avacado - they're just muted versions of bright colors.

of course, this is coming from the colorblind CA, so you can tell me where to stick it. ;)
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby RjBeals on Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:32 pm

seamusk wrote:...but the map is very very dark. I tend to avoid dark maps and I'm sure others do too.


I don't think it's too bad though - what makes it look dark is the dark/de-saturated text on the medium colors. If the font was adjusted, you wouldn't think it was dark.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby gimil on Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:34 pm

oaktown wrote:of course, this is coming from the colorblind CA, so you can tell me where to stick it. ;)


Hehehehehe

Im not much happy with the pallete either. Choosing colours also isnt my strongest points. Any tips would be appreciated :)
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby Kaplowitz on Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:53 pm

well i dont know about anyone else...
but i like a purple, orange, and like a cyany color. Darker water too.

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I could be completely off on that though.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby rocky mountain on Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:06 pm

i like the colour scheme. i do not like what kaplowitz suggested... :sick: :D
i don't really find it too dark either though. i think its fine
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby RjBeals on Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:08 pm

i kinda like that orange & cyan colors, but not the purple.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:27 pm

Gimil, perhaps take come cues from Ancient Chinese art, and the colors that were used...and how they were used.

http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/chi ... inming.jpg
http://www.chinapage.com/poremp6.gif
http://www.chinapage.com/rdragon.gif
http://www.chinapage.com/images/qianlong.jpg

Just some random thoughts!


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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby rocky mountain on Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:54 pm

they used a lot of yellow...
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 5

Postby gimil on Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:07 am

Here ive played around with the colours. Im not 100% happy but its a step in the right direction I feel.

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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby seamusk on Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:20 am

I agree that that is the right direction. Looks better. And legible!

EDIT for additional thought. As rocky mountain pointed out, they use a lot of yellow. I think that if you used yellow for the north instead of blue it would complete the feel.

Looks like you changed the background which I think had a big impact on how it looks.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:00 am

no blue red and green are the army colours, green for shu, red for wu and blue for wei, how it was, has been and always should be.

also gimil i know im pushing hard on the names but anyone who knows their stuff will look and thing - WTF happened there. iv provided with maps, its just up to you to change a bit of text
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby gimil on Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:13 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:no blue red and green are the army colours, green for shu, red for wu and blue for wei, how it was, has been and always should be.

also gimil i know im pushing hard on the names but anyone who knows their stuff will look and thing - WTF happened there. iv provided with maps, its just up to you to change a bit of text


Im know sam sorry to seem ive been ignoring you but ive been pushed for time and I forget to go back to whatyou said. Perhaps if you make a list like you did in the old thread to make is easier and quicker for me to check.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 3

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:39 am

Api-Yai is Yong Chang,
yueh sui is Yunnan and Jianti divided into two.
Tsang-ke is Zhuti.

pa-tung is Han Zhong,
wu-tu is yin ping
and Fu lin is Baxi and Ba dong (left-right)
Yong-an is Ba.

ok the prob with this map is that it only has the names of them not the borders of their provinces so u have to compare with your map

nan is jing nan
tung an is wuxing
Jianling is yu zhang
meanwhile Lin - Ch'uan is Lin Hai



so i dunno how u split yeuh sui and Fu Lin but its two terits
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby gimil on Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:17 pm

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How is this sam? I dont really want to go splitting terrs thou.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 4

Postby TaCktiX on Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:49 pm

The text is much more readable, but I'm finding it hard to believe that 888's will fit into the Kingdom of Shu without some text getting obstructed. Any chance of proving that, or altering the territory borders a smidge?
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 6

Postby gimil on Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:42 am

Triple digits isnt going to be a problem. I just need a little artistic licence.

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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 6

Postby seamusk on Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:36 am

fyi, it is a bit confusing which armies belong to yin ping v tian shui (sp?). I think I know after looking at them very carefully. In any case the rest looks fine.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 6

Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:39 am

thats brilliant gimil. =D> =D> =D> =D>
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 6

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:54 pm

I'd still maybe tweak the color of the text in some areas. Maybe a touch darker in the two light blue areas in Wei...not sure about the dark blue. Slight touches to green and red also.


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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 6

Postby gimil on Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:57 pm

seamusk wrote:fyi, it is a bit confusing which armies belong to yin ping v tian shui (sp?). I think I know after looking at them very carefully. In any case the rest looks fine.


I see it good catch.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 6

Postby gimil on Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:57 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I'd still maybe tweak the color of the text in some areas. Maybe a touch darker in the two light blue areas in Wei...not sure about the dark blue. Slight touches to green and red also.


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Maybe a touch darker for some. I don't really feel there is any problems with the rest of the names.
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 6

Postby onbekende on Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:16 pm

next thread, next map :D

Gimil! Nice map


Bonusses:
(I named then to there respectfull coordinates in there "super"-continent

Wei West:
3 terr, 1 def/att, 1 cont => Bonus of 1 (same, Aussie land as eac map needs he :D)

Wei Central:
9 terr, 6 def/att, 5 cont => Bonus of 7 (seeing the Wei bonus overrules the individual ones, is a bonus of 5 definatly good, so people will take the entire kingdom)

Wei East:
2 terr, 2 def/att, 1 cont => Bonus of 2 (but seeing one need these for the total one, is 1 a good bonus, making it a little aussieland)

Kingdon of Wei:
14 terr, 3 def, 2 att, 2 cont => Bonus of 2 (altered) => aka +2 on the suggested other bonuses, making it thus the given 9, which is god


Shu North:
7 terr, 4 def, 5 att, 3 cont => Bonus of 5 (but seeing only 5 for defence, I can live with a +4)

Shu South:
4 terr, 2 def/att, 2 cont => Bonus of 3 (a true South America, no need for 3, +2 is good)

Kingdom of Shu:
11 terr, 4 def, 5 att, 2 cont => Bonus of 3 (altered) => less terr, but more defence needed with a hold on blue, possibility for a +9 here


Wu West:
5 terr, 5 def/att, 5 cont => Bonus of 5 (same as you propose, can't have anything against it then he :D)

Wu East:
6 terr, 3 def/att, 2 cont => Bonus of 4 (seeing it can go into a 2 def continent, I am okay with +3)

Wu South:
5 terr, 2 def/att, 2 cont => Bonus of 3 (South America again, +2!)

Kingdom of Wu:
16 terr, 6 def/att, 2 cont => Bonus of 4 (altered) => middle place, playground of the people holding green/blue, needs its bonus, have this => got the map mostly, so why no +13 (o_O, unlucky chinese number)


Aside from bonusses who I like mostly, I very much like the way you show them!


As I could forsee, I have no comments about the map itself, I blame your uberness
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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 6

Postby gimil on Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:33 pm

Hi onbekende nice to see you about the foundry. Havent seen you in a while.

After reading your report (;)) the only thing you think should be changed are the shu kingdom bonus to a 9 and increase te total of the wu kingdom bonus to compensate for the middle group combat?

Im happy with the increase of wu to 13 but moving shu to 9 im not so happy with. It has that one way attack out and the middle ground bordering it so it more likely to be attacking than defending. So I would rather keep it at 8.

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Re: The Era of the Three Kingdoms - Page 6

Postby onbekende on Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:45 pm

every person liked needs to disappear to be more liked when returning he :D

and school makes the actually reason more believable :D

mkay, as I somewhat noted Shu to 9 is not really a big need, it could intensify the taking of green by blue but its indeed not needed.


But yeah, red is the middle of the supercontinent mayham, make it valuable
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