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Re: Ant Wars - New gameplay style!

Postby Ethitts on Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:11 am

foregone wrote:I like the concept, definitely interesting, in a good way.

Graphics wise I think you could probably play with the texture to get something more sand/dirt like.

I realise you're probably still mucking about with it, but the food chambers could look different. Right now its kinda like green airbrush.

The explanation, though complete, could be stated more concisely. I think it just may be the order or placement or somesuch but maybe put it into a more paragraphy type thing at the top which details the gameplay style and dump the bonuses and weaknesses in a legend at the bottom maybe?

Are the bonuses enough? It seems if you select army ant you have to conquer at least 5 territories for each +1 you get. Thats gonna make progress painful. Or it might just be me.

Very cool though.



Is this a better texture?

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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby foregone on Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:38 am

Not quite there yet. Still has a bit of a cardboardy feel to me. Will think on how it would look better...
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby Androidz on Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:24 am

I liked the old texture, where it looks like sand is crumbled togheter after a rainy day. Could be a bit darker peraps but not to much.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby Ethitts on Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:16 am

foregone wrote:Not quite there yet. Still has a bit of a cardboardy feel to me. Will think on how it would look better...


I'll post up a few different dirt options at some stage and then make a poll for it. Any suggestions as to how I should make the dirt look would be most appreciated.

Androidz wrote:I liked the old texture, where it looks like sand is crumbled togheter after a rainy day. Could be a bit darker peraps but not to much.


I liked it too :( , but not everyone can be pleased. Although my second attempt is growing on me too.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby Androidz on Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:28 am

Ethitts wrote:
foregone wrote:Not quite there yet. Still has a bit of a cardboardy feel to me. Will think on how it would look better...


I'll post up a few different dirt options at some stage and then make a poll for it. Any suggestions as to how I should make the dirt look would be most appreciated.

Androidz wrote:I liked the old texture, where it looks like sand is crumbled togheter after a rainy day. Could be a bit darker peraps but not to much.


I liked it too :( , but not everyone can be pleased. Although my second attempt is growing on me too.


I think its to plain. Doesent look like dirt but a texture on the wall. Almost slippery.

(Wow hard to explain:D)
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby foregone on Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:24 am

Androidz wrote:
Ethitts wrote:
foregone wrote:Not quite there yet. Still has a bit of a cardboardy feel to me. Will think on how it would look better...


I'll post up a few different dirt options at some stage and then make a poll for it. Any suggestions as to how I should make the dirt look would be most appreciated.

Androidz wrote:I liked the old texture, where it looks like sand is crumbled togheter after a rainy day. Could be a bit darker peraps but not to much.


I liked it too :( , but not everyone can be pleased. Although my second attempt is growing on me too.


I think its to plain. Doesent look like dirt but a texture on the wall. Almost slippery.

(Wow hard to explain:D)


The first is definitely better than the second. Are you using GIMP or Photoshop? I like the "feel" of the first, but think it could look a little more like loose particles, which I'd imagine it looks like in an anthill. Of course, this might just be me. Perhaps you should look at the other things first and then come back to the texture if it doesn't work in the overall feel further along?
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby Ethitts on Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:33 am

foregone wrote:The first is definitely better than the second. Are you using GIMP or Photoshop? I like the "feel" of the first, but think it could look a little more like loose particles, which I'd imagine it looks like in an anthill. Of course, this might just be me. Perhaps you should look at the other things first and then come back to the texture if it doesn't work in the overall feel further along?


I use photoshop. I think I should try get the texture right first because it will be a very large part of the map ;) , I can then build everything else on it. If I create everything else first it will be a mission going back and changing the entire background.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby ZeakCytho on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:00 am

Is this something like what you want? I made this in about five minutes just now:
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I took a layer filled with white and went to filter -> noise -> add noise with the options Gaussian and Monochromatic at 200%. I then did a motion blur of 2 pixels at 90 degrees, and after that another motion blur of 2 pixel, but this time at 0 degrees. I set a color overlay on the layer (you'd probably want a different color) and messed with the opacity on that until I got a roughly dirt-colored layer. I then duplicated the layer and rotated it 180 degrees, and set the opacity on the duplicate to 70%.

It might be a bit blurrier than what you're looking for, now that I look at it again. Maybe only have the motion blurs at 1 px.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby Ethitts on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:03 am

ZeakCytho wrote:Is this something like what you want? I made this in about five minutes just now:
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I took a layer filled with white and went to filter -> noise -> add noise with the options Gaussian and Monochromatic at 200%. I then did a motion blur of 2 pixels at 90 degrees, and after that another motion blur of 2 pixel, but this time at 0 degrees. I set a color overlay on the layer (you'd probably want a different color) and messed with the opacity on that until I got a roughly dirt-colored layer. I then duplicated the layer and rotated it 180 degrees, and set the opacity on the duplicate to 70%.

It might be a bit blurrier than what you're looking for, now that I look at it again. Maybe only have the motion blurs at 1 px.


Yea, that a good texture, but a little blurry as you said.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby Androidz on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:06 am

ZeakCytho wrote:Is this something like what you want? I made this in about five minutes just now:
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I took a layer filled with white and went to filter -> noise -> add noise with the options Gaussian and Monochromatic at 200%. I then did a motion blur of 2 pixels at 90 degrees, and after that another motion blur of 2 pixel, but this time at 0 degrees. I set a color overlay on the layer (you'd probably want a different color) and messed with the opacity on that until I got a roughly dirt-colored layer. I then duplicated the layer and rotated it 180 degrees, and set the opacity on the duplicate to 70%.

It might be a bit blurrier than what you're looking for, now that I look at it again. Maybe only have the motion blurs at 1 px.


i think its to grey tough.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby ZeakCytho on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:07 am

Androidz wrote:i think its to grey tough.


ZeakCytho wrote:I set a color overlay on the layer (you'd probably want a different color) and messed with the opacity on that until I got a roughly dirt-colored layer.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby Androidz on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:18 am

ZeakCytho wrote:
Androidz wrote:i think its to grey tough.


ZeakCytho wrote:I set a color overlay on the layer (you'd probably want a different color) and messed with the opacity on that until I got a roughly dirt-colored layer.


I like the coulour you suggested but i think its more of a rockish colour now.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby Ethitts on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:23 am

Androidz wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:
Androidz wrote:i think its to grey tough.


ZeakCytho wrote:I set a color overlay on the layer (you'd probably want a different color) and messed with the opacity on that until I got a roughly dirt-colored layer.


I like the coulour you suggested but i think its more of a rockish colour now.


Androidz I don't think ZeakCytho meant the colour as a suggestion, he just used it as an example.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby Androidz on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:26 am

Ethitts wrote:
Androidz wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:
Androidz wrote:i think its to grey tough.


ZeakCytho wrote:I set a color overlay on the layer (you'd probably want a different color) and messed with the opacity on that until I got a roughly dirt-colored layer.


I like the coulour you suggested but i think its more of a rockish colour now.


Androidz I don't think ZeakCytho meant the colour as a suggestion, he just used it as an example.


:O sorry im bad at english my bad.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby foregone on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:44 am

Try out Zeak's texture, it might come out nicely. Otherwise scour the net for dirt images and just muck about with the opacity, etc.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby whitestazn88 on Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:37 pm

right now it looks kinda like the inside of a burlap sack... getting close though...
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 3 (better?)

Postby Ethitts on Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:58 pm

A new texture:

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This one I tried to make the nest have more depth. So hopefully it looks like all the holes are going "into" the map. Also tried to give it more of a grainy dirt texture.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 4 (better?)

Postby ZeakCytho on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:08 am

The hole look like they're coming out of the map to me :?

But the texture is much better.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 4 (better?)

Postby Ethitts on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:22 am

ZeakCytho wrote:The hole look like they're coming out of the map to me :?

But the texture is much better.


Really? Hmm, wonder if other people find that. Glad you like the texture though.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 4 (better?)

Postby foregone on Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:50 am

Ethitts wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:The hole look like they're coming out of the map to me :?

But the texture is much better.


Really? Hmm, wonder if other people find that. Glad you like the texture though.


Texture looks better. The holes look all right to me.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 4 (better?)

Postby gimil on Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:00 am

Ants have always facinated me in how there society works.

This has caught my eye. Although we only have a basic texture and layout at the moment seems there is graphical skills in you. Ill keep an eye on this and start thinking about stamps once I see a more complete map!
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 4 (better?)

Postby Ethitts on Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:17 am

gimil wrote:Ants have always facinated me in how there society works.

This has caught my eye. Although we only have a basic texture and layout at the moment seems there is graphical skills in you. Ill keep an eye on this and start thinking about stamps once I see a more complete map!


Awesome. Cheers gimil, I have been wanting to get this map going for a long time now. I think I might finally be getting my graphic skills up to a suitable level (almost).
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 4 (better?)

Postby gimil on Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:12 am

Ethitts wrote:
gimil wrote:Ants have always facinated me in how there society works.

This has caught my eye. Although we only have a basic texture and layout at the moment seems there is graphical skills in you. Ill keep an eye on this and start thinking about stamps once I see a more complete map!


Awesome. Cheers gimil, I have been wanting to get this map going for a long time now. I think I might finally be getting my graphic skills up to a suitable level (almost).


The small sample you have just now if showing consistancy! Keep it up.
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 4 (better?)

Postby whitestazn88 on Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:59 pm

the texture is much better, and i believe that the holes look like they're in the ground.

i got to admit, it's gettin better... a little better all the time
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Re: Ant Wars - Different texture page 4 (better?)

Postby drake_259 on Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:57 pm

ZeakCytho wrote:The hole look like they're coming out of the map to me :?

But the texture is much better.

its the way you look at it, its like an illusion


anyway i think this looks like a great idea and i wish you the best of luck with it
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