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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby rsacheli on Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:43 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Yay! I love puppies! Now time for Graphics:
  1. The entire top part of the map - the legend, the title - needs to be changed. The fonts are simply not working for me or this map.
  2. The rifts - they look blurry and stretched, and I think they can be done away with completely. Just nudge the close areas apart a bit.
  3. The icons on the territories need to be more prevalent. I can barely tell those are daisies on the Spring territories.
  4. Also, since you got rid of the color paired bonuses, might as well line them up with the seasons or something.
  5. Experiment with different backgrounds. This one's okay, but I think you can do better ;)

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I love the font... I can play with it tho...
The rifts do suck... that I agree with...
Ill play with the icons a bit... (they are roses not daisies)
The colors i think should stay as is... it helps to distinguish between the constellations from the one next to it...
Ill play with the background...

iancanton wrote:don't forget to give to leo 1, libra 1, aquarius 2 and aries 2 the same dark look as the other decaying stars!

ian. :)


Good catch! forgot them...
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:41 pm

I got some suggestions to hopefully make this map more attractive.

1) get rid of the impassable rifts... those places don't have links anyway, why do they need rifts
2) Change the background to something plain. This is competing witht he glow of the stars too much.
3) find a way to draw an outline of the animals the constellations represent around the stars
4) rename black hole Earth. The constellations revolve around the earth, not a black hole.
5) change the font... its a bit icky.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby natty dread on Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:05 am

Industrial Helix wrote:5) change the font... its a bit icky.


I agree! That font must go.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby rsacheli on Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:18 pm

I am working on this... taking my time to get it looking right... please bear with me...
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:31 pm

NP, as long as we know it is being worked on.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby rsacheli on Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:09 pm

Ok, I give up... I cant figure anything out with the background... I can change the black hole image if its too much... ill dim the background a bit if thatll help but I like the starry background...
I contemplated the black hole being a Star or earth but a decay doesnt make sense... I dont want to change that... this was discussed the first time I started this map... and the constellations are stationary... the earth revolves around the sun... and the zodiac of your birth is the constellation that is behind the sun...

There is not enough room for the animals and I will not use someone elses drawings... plus it would cause this to become much too cluttered...

I love the Font but will look at alternates...

rifts are gone... they were put in originally because a few of the stars are kinda close but dont have a connection...
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby RjBeals on Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:19 pm

personally, I think some things just shouldn't be a risk map. I have no suggestions on what you could do to improve this. A cluster gray circles with a black background.

Well really, I would suggest using the new large map size to expand this out a bit, and show the animal outlines at least.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby rsacheli on Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:41 pm

RjBeals wrote:personally, I think some things just shouldn't be a risk map. I have no suggestions on what you could do to improve this. A cluster gray circles with a black background.

Well really, I would suggest using the new large map size to expand this out a bit, and show the animal outlines at least.


and do what with the small size? unless its changed... there is big and small sure the big may be able to have the pics... but small would not...
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby iancanton on Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:14 am

by new map size, i think rj means supersize. u will need to go to the drafting room to seek foundry approval for a supersize map.

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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby lostatlimbo on Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:50 pm

rsacheli wrote:I love the Font but will look at alternates...


Seriously, dude, Papyrus is awful.

Go to http://www.dafont.com/ and find something unique that says "space" and "stars", rather than an overused, misplaced font that says "Egyptian scroll".
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby lostatlimbo on Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:00 pm

Every time I click on this post, I expect to see something different than what is here. Nothing about it really captures the zodiac. It really just feels like another "Space" map - and we've already got two of those.

I agree that showing the traditional "figures" of the constellations makes a lot more sense than a bunch of colored dots.

Thematically, what does the black hole have to do with the zodiac? I agree that the Earth (or the Sun) would make a lot more sense here than a random black hole. You could easily keep the zombie neutrals (the Earth's inhabitants are rather... transient).

I keep wanting to like this map, but it just isn't there yet. I think you should try going back to the drawing board. It could be a good map, but it has an identity crisis.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby lostatlimbo on Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:03 pm

At the very least, you should have the symbols on the map somewhere

http://www.rbamusements.com/zodiac.gif

Another idea would be to explore the Zodiac Circle commonly used in Astrology

http://www.horoscoper.net/images/jpg/Zo ... s-1585.jpg

And lastly, rather than focusing on the "seasons" (which doesn't really make much sense in this context - having sun & snowflakes makes this map very Northern hemi-centric), why not use the astrological Elements of the zodiac.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elements_o ... the_zodiac

Again, I think this could be a great map, but do some more research and try to re-think it a bit.

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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby natty dread on Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:33 am

lostatlimbo wrote:Seriously, dude, Papyrus is awful.


Not awful as much as overused.

It sort of fits the theme here, in the sense that every crackpot site about astrology, chakra energies and healing crystals used papyrus at one point... ;)

But I don't think that kind of association is really good for the map, so I recommend changing the font.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby rsacheli on Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:53 pm

lostatlimbo wrote:At the very least, you should have the symbols on the map somewhere

http://www.rbamusements.com/zodiac.gif

Another idea would be to explore the Zodiac Circle commonly used in Astrology

http://www.horoscoper.net/images/jpg/Zo ... s-1585.jpg


I will incorporate those similar to the first link... but i dont have the time to create the actual creature type that everyone wants to see...

lostatlimbo wrote:And lastly, rather than focusing on the "seasons" (which doesn't really make much sense in this context - having sun & snowflakes makes this map very Northern hemi-centric), why not use the astrological Elements of the zodiac.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elements_o ... the_zodiac


Had it and people didnt like it in game play...
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby natty dread on Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:32 am

The first one is marked "free for personal use" so you can't use it here...
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Re: Zodiac Map(v6.4.5 on First post and page 16)

Postby rsacheli on Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:01 am

i changed the font and now need to adjust the glows on them to make them more readable... update coming very soon!
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Re: Zodiac Map(v7 on First post and page 18)

Postby rsacheli on Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:35 pm

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Re: Zodiac Map(v7 on First post and page 18)

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:24 am

Well, this map got a whole lot sexier. Maybe use a secondary font for the smaller text, it's a tad hard to read. And the Spring/Summer/Winter/Fall thing at the top-right is really squished, see if you can make it less. And maybe explore new background images, this one doesn't have really anything distinguishable. Also, change your signature font.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v7 on First post and page 18)

Postby ender516 on Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:42 am

If you are no longer doing the elements and the seasons, then maybe the colours need to be unified. I mean, if Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces are all winter blue in the legend, shouldn't they be the same on the map?
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Re: Zodiac Map(v7 on First post and page 18)

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:10 pm

ender516 wrote:If you are no longer doing the elements and the seasons, then maybe the colours need to be unified. I mean, if Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces are all winter blue in the legend, shouldn't they be the same on the map?

Well, the issue there is they're all adjacent bonus areas, so it'd be hard to distinguish between them.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v7 on First post and page 18)

Postby ender516 on Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:13 pm

Then change the legend to use the proper colours. The seasons are denoted by the symbols on the troop circles. Of course, those will be hidden by the numbers, which is why I originally suggested (I think) that the symbols surround the circles, so that they would be more visible.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v7 on First post and page 18)

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:54 am

ender516 wrote:Then change the legend to use the proper colours. The seasons are denoted by the symbols on the troop circles. Of course, those will be hidden by the numbers, which is why I originally suggested (I think) that the symbols surround the circles, so that they would be more visible.


Which is another reason we are allowing this to go supersize a tad bit to make it clearer.

rsacheli, are you working on a slightly larger version to help with the clarity issues? If so can we please see the larger sizes?
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Re: Zodiac Map(v7 on First post and page 18)

Postby rsacheli on Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:27 pm

I havent started making a larger version... yet... I want to try to keep this size if I can...
I will change the glows to make it more readable...
Ill also play with expanding the season markings beyond the circles...

As for my signature font, whats wrong with that? It should be different from the main font so that its not confused with the rest of the map text?
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