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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby bbqpenguin on Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:24 pm

rsacheli wrote:
drake_259 wrote::) funny that the Aquarius is in Air when its got the most to do with Water


i thought that too...........



did you arbitratilly assign the constellations to elements or is there actually some historical significance to that?
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby rsacheli on Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:18 pm

I did a simple search and this is the elements that are generally accepted across the interweb
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby benny profane on Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:29 pm

The jury is still out on the black hole issue...

But lemme see if I get these bonuses right.
Let's say I hold Pisces, Scorpio, and Cancer.
For holding each of those, I'll get a total of 20 armies.
Is the Elemental (or Seasonal, as the case may be) bonus on top of that, leading to me actually getting 33 armies?
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby mibi on Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:06 pm

There is way too much glow going on here.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby rsacheli on Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:50 am

benny profane wrote:But lemme see if I get these bonuses right.
Let's say I hold Pisces, Scorpio, and Cancer.
For holding each of those, I'll get a total of 20 armies.
Is the Elemental (or Seasonal, as the case may be) bonus on top of that, leading to me actually getting 33 armies?



That is correct, the seasonal/elemental bonuses are in addition to the bonuses recieved by the individual constellations. Is that too much?
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby bbqpenguin on Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:43 am

rsacheli wrote:
benny profane wrote:But lemme see if I get these bonuses right.
Let's say I hold Pisces, Scorpio, and Cancer.
For holding each of those, I'll get a total of 20 armies.
Is the Elemental (or Seasonal, as the case may be) bonus on top of that, leading to me actually getting 33 armies?



That is correct, the seasonal/elemental bonuses are in addition to the bonuses recieved by the individual constellations. Is that too much?


i kind of don't think so. it'll still be very difficult to hold 1 individual constellation, and the difficulty of getting an element makes it that much harder because of the amount of borders you'd have to maintain. seasons should be easier to hold than elements (fewer borders to defend) so i think you should decrease the bonus for holding them so that they're a bit lower than the element bonuses
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby rsacheli on Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:08 pm

bbqpenguin wrote:
rsacheli wrote:
benny profane wrote:But lemme see if I get these bonuses right.
Let's say I hold Pisces, Scorpio, and Cancer.
For holding each of those, I'll get a total of 20 armies.
Is the Elemental (or Seasonal, as the case may be) bonus on top of that, leading to me actually getting 33 armies?



That is correct, the seasonal/elemental bonuses are in addition to the bonuses recieved by the individual constellations. Is that too much?


i kind of don't think so. it'll still be very difficult to hold 1 individual constellation, and the difficulty of getting an element makes it that much harder because of the amount of borders you'd have to maintain. seasons should be easier to hold than elements (fewer borders to defend) so i think you should decrease the bonus for holding them so that they're a bit lower than the element bonuses



Makes sense... will incorporate in next update
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby benny profane on Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:27 pm

Agreed. I would tentatively suggest:
Summer +8
Fall +8
Winter +7
Spring +7
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby rsacheli on Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:29 am

benny profane wrote:Agreed. I would tentatively suggest:
Summer +8
Fall +8
Winter +7
Spring +7


how did you determine these values?

I was thinking more like:
Summer +6
Fall +8
Winter +7
Spring +8

And those might even bee too high
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby benny profane on Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:06 am

I just went by the number of borders each season (in total) would have to defend.
They do run high, but to hold a season means you are holding A LOT of territories.
That would probably be an end game situation, so the high added bonus of the season would sort of have an effect like escalating cards. Anyways, it's just a suggestion, and I'm sure there will be plenty of discussion on bonuses to come.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby MrBenn on Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:35 am

It might be worth your while checking out the bonus in one of the bonus spreadsheet calculators...

Link to the mapmaking tools :arrow: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1410
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby Friskies on Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:47 pm

Beautiful map, though I fear it will be hard to decipher when it's small.
The legends are already difficult to understand. Don't use so many symbols like -, +, & at the same time. Don't use asymmetry in those texts. And make the two lines at the bottom easier to understand too... so that we don't have to search in this topic to learn the way to get bonuses.
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby bbqpenguin on Mon Oct 06, 2008 3:08 pm

Friskies wrote:Beautiful map, though I fear it will be hard to decipher when it's small.
The legends are already difficult to understand. Don't use so many symbols like -, +, & at the same time. Don't use asymmetry in those texts. And make the two lines at the bottom easier to understand too... so that we don't have to search in this topic to learn the way to get bonuses.


this is a good point, in the legend you use hyphens to set of the bonus names, which looks like a minus sign. try something else like a dot, a colon, or a ~
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby rsacheli on Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:44 pm

Friskies wrote:Beautiful map, though I fear it will be hard to decipher when it's small.
The legends are already difficult to understand. Don't use so many symbols like -, +, & at the same time. Don't use asymmetry in those texts. And make the two lines at the bottom easier to understand too... so that we don't have to search in this topic to learn the way to get bonuses.


this is the small... after this one is finished ill convert it to the larger size...
Ill change the hyphens... and make the legend a little clearer if i can...
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Re: Zodiac Map(v5.2 on First post and page6)

Postby MrBenn on Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:11 am

rsacheli, have you had much thoughts about how games might play out? Are there any aspects of the gameplay (bonuses et al) that you specifically would like to discuss?
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