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WHAT SHOULD THIS MAPS GAMEPLAY BE? Dogs and Snowmen remain in all versions.

Poll ended at Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:21 pm

1. Open assault - snowmakers assault team throwers; throwers assault other throwers with arms only (v10)
5
25%
2. Open assault - snowmakers assault team throwers; throwers assault other throwers with body added
7
35%
3. Adjacant assault - snowmakers assault team throwers; throwers assault adjacent throwers (V11)
3
15%
4. Adjacent assault - snowmakers assault team throwers; throwers assault adjacent throweers with body added
0
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5. Opposite assault - snowmakers assault team throwers; throwers from one side assault opposite side arms only
2
10%
6. Opposite assault - snowmakers assault team throwers; throwers from one side assault opposite side with body added
2
10%
7. Other - please explain.
1
5%
 
Total votes : 20

Re: SNOWFIGHT V10 (P5) READY FOR XMAS????

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:51 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:.....
But here's a suggestion. What if throwers had two territories: body and arm. Arm attacks body? I dunno if that would resolve any of the worries about the openess of the map, but its an idea.

And thanks also IH for offering something towards a solution.
Can you elaborate on that idea a little more. You realise that would almost double the map region numbers, but i'd like to hear more. What attacks the arm for instance, if arm attacks body?


Arm and body of the same thrower border each other, snowball maker borders both throwers bodies. Arm attacks all other throwers bodies.

A bit weird, but seems like would work. Not a bad idea...
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V10 (P5) READY FOR XMAS????

Postby sonicsteve on Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:42 am

cairnswk wrote:
Gees, sonicsteve, how glad i am being an old bugger who grew up in an age of not so strict polically correctness when one of my best school mates was called Wog. He was of italian decent and an absolutely charmiing chap about being called that too. In fact he prefered his nicname rather than his real name. His name is on the map because later in life he committed suicide.
Dibbles, Kars, Blimp, Brownie, Wog, Legend, Jules and Buster were all nicnames that my school friends of both sexes had, and we never had problems with these names.
Somehow the world has got into a big mess about names.
However, if anyone else thinks it needs to be replaced because of some wikipedia definition which i find totally out of whack anyways, then i will do so.
It was not meant to be applied to your reference nor to offend anyone in the UK, nor anywhere else.


Thanks for changing it, and sorry to mess up a tribute to your friend.

If you'd lived in the UK in the 70s and 80s, you would probably find the defintion very accurate, and not at all 'out of whack'.

I'm an old bugger myself, and it's a word I hadn't heard in 20 years or more, but last time I heard, "Oi, Wog" it was basically shorthand for "Hey, you black bastard (and your mate - I was his mate), we're gonna give you both a good kicking", and immediately followed by the rumble of boots in our direction.

People may think political correctness has gone mad, but personally I'd rather live in a World without pejorative language, which racists use to depersonalise their violent behaviour.

Anyway - Thanks for changing it!

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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) ALTERED GAMEPLAY

Postby squishyg on Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:10 pm

yay, its like the snowball fight on Wii Fit, except I don't have to exercise!
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) NEW GAMEPLAY

Postby cairnswk on Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:29 pm

cairnswk wrote:Well, i look at the suggestions above for gameplay, and couldn't envisage extra "body" sections, and thought that this would be a good compromise between the two, whilst retaining some form of the original continent style assaults. It moves away from the total everyone can assault everyone else, but....
So see if you can understand it from the legend, and obviously it will need tweaking if successfully accepted.

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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) ALTERED GAMEPLAY

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:46 pm

When I first saw this idea, without looking into the map, I liked the idea. But I can't say I'm a fan of the current game play or the graphics (or where the graphics seem to be going), unfortunately.


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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) ALTERED GAMEPLAY

Postby cairnswk on Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:04 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:When I first saw this idea, without looking into the map, I liked the idea. But I can't say I'm a fan of the current game play or the graphics (or where the graphics seem to be going), unfortunately.


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Anyways, suggestions please. :)
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) ALTERED GAMEPLAY

Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:32 pm

I don't like the new set up... I mean, unless you have BOB it is going to be a pain in the butt to look at your team, look at the legend, figure out who you can attack. Hmm.. after writing it out like that it makes me sound like a lazy player. But really, if I looked at this current set up I'd say eff this and playa different map.

Suggestion: revert to the free for all set up. I liked it's openess and I think it will be successful.

I'm not sure how it would play out, but I'm pretty confident that it won't be up to the luck of the dice. I mean, everyone is going to capture their team first thing. Then it's a waiting game, as most games are. You wait for your opening by gauging what the other players are doing and then strike.

The dogs and the snowmen... they could go in my opinion. I just don't see how they really give anything to game other than an extra man or two for the players starting near them.

As for the graphics... the background looks great but the people are pretty weak. Something for the graphics workshop though.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) ALTERED GAMEPLAY

Postby cairnswk on Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:42 am

Given the reaction of the last replies, prehaps this needs to be thrown open to a Vote Decision. as much as i hate to do it.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) ALTERED GAMEPLAY

Postby natty dread on Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:29 am

How about, every snowfighter assaults every snowfighter in the adjacent team?

ie. each member of T1 assaults each member of T5 and T4 and so on.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) ALTERED GAMEPLAY

Postby cairnswk on Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:42 am

natty_dread wrote:How about, every snowfighter assaults every snowfighter in the adjacent team?

ie. each member of T1 assaults each member of T5 and T4 and so on.


Isn't that what is one the map almost now?
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) ALTERED GAMEPLAY

Postby army of nobunaga on Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:52 pm

I like this idea. When I get done with the Ant thing I wanted to try something like this but more like a game called "Double Dragon"

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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) ALTERED GAMEPLAY

Postby carlpgoodrich on Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:20 pm

In terms of openness, why not teams on one side of the road can only attack teams on the other side? Thats a lot simpler than it is now and would provide similar gameplay. I also really like the idea of having the throwers bodies be a separate territory, although I would make one modification: have the throwers arms (or snowballs) be killer neutral resetting to 1. After all, you can only throw a snowball once :D . I think it would make the attacking a lot more interesting, since in order to attack anyone you HAVE to go through a killer neutral.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby cairnswk on Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:23 pm

OK Voting is on. Get to it peeps!
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:33 pm

Honestly, I'm fine with either of the "Open Assault" options.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby cairnswk on Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:57 pm

5 votes so far.
at this rate, we'll be back in the dead project bin b4 xmas.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:24 pm

Oh, don't be so pessimistic, cairns! Cheer up!
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby RedFlyingGolf on Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:39 pm

This is one of the coolest maps I have seen! I would prefer one of the open assault options.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby army of nobunaga on Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:53 pm

the way I always envisioned my open fight map was that each dude would have specialties, some would auto deploy one but only be able to attack the leader of the other team, some would be wide open assualt, some would bombard BIG bombs... etc..

you set this up with ingenuity that would really define this map.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby army of nobunaga on Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:55 pm

to add on to this... imo the maps that everyone do not start on equal footings are the best maps inmo .. like feudal, waterloo...
each kid could have a different set of skills... the kid that puts a rock in his snowball could be the king assaulter on each team.. there is always a kid that "Guards" the fort... that could be your auto deploy 3 or 4 but he doesnt attack anyone on the other team.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby cairnswk on Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:15 pm

more votes poeple please
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby CoolC on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:57 pm

Not sure what "with body added" means but I voted for it in the hope it means we can also attack the dudes with a circle on their body. I guess it could also mean you'll add body + hand for all guys which I'm against. First option is also ok.

edit: changed my vote then.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby Victor Sullivan on Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:50 pm

CoolC wrote:Not sure what "with body added" means but I voted for it in the hope it means we can also attack the dudes with a circle on their body. I guess it could also mean you'll add body + hand for all guys which I'm against. First option is also ok.

I agree with CoolC here (if anyone should know anything about "cool" maps it's CoolC, am I right? :mrgreen: ) Chose option 2 but I'm fine with either Open Assault option.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby RedFlyingGolf on Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:07 pm

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CoolC wrote:Not sure what "with body added" means but I voted for it in the hope it means we can also attack the dudes with a circle on their body. I guess it could also mean you'll add body + hand for all guys which I'm against. First option is also ok.

I agree with CoolC here (if anyone should know anything about "cool" maps it's CoolC, am I right? :mrgreen: ) Chose option 2 but I'm fine with either Open Assault option.

I also dont understand the body arm thing.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby cairnswk on Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:31 pm

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Victor Sullivan wrote:
CoolC wrote:Not sure what "with body added" means but I voted for it in the hope it means we can also attack the dudes with a circle on their body. I guess it could also mean you'll add body + hand for all guys which I'm against. First option is also ok.

I agree with CoolC here (if anyone should know anything about "cool" maps it's CoolC, am I right? :mrgreen: ) Chose option 2 but I'm fine with either Open Assault option.

I also dont understand the body arm thing.


Yes it means that each person in the scenario would have two components - hand and body - that could be attacked.
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Re: SNOWFIGHT V11 (P5) GAMEPLAY VOTING

Postby carlpgoodrich on Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:35 am

Is it every person or just the throwers? I though it was just the throwers, since the snowmakers don't really extend their arms.
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