Chariot of Fire - dubs (REJECTED long ago)

[freakns]

My ultimate point is that people are so angry at GLG that they get mad at him no matter what he does. I'm not a fan of the guy's methods but I really think people need to relax a little when it comes to scrutinizing every single action he takes on the site. Just because he is playing with Josko does not mean that he isn't contributing to the game in some way or another...

Lastly the reason he created this thread is the same reason he played a game with me, he would like to try and prove to COF that he is not just some scrub but rather a decent player. It is the same reason he invites people to live chat/pm conversations...to try and get them to not vocally hate him in the forums.

OK, let me say it again, because you either chose not to listen, or not to hear... he took advantage over 11 yrs old kid. and he willingly continue doing so. not scrub but decent player? hahahah, yeah, right. same thing with live chat. he wants to be loved. he obviously thought being conqueror will get him some sort of recognition, but its aint happening...
lastly, he playing with josko means he doesnt contribute! they are playing no spoils, unlimited, foggy quads/triples on big maps. his contribution there is not missing turns and know how to read instructions. and thats the reason he loves josko that much. no work, safe points. and knowing glg would be willingly ass raped for 5 points, getting 15 points from game means he loves josko that much more.

It is extremely frustrating that you are complaining about me not understanding your point when you do not understand that I not only understand yours, but agree with it as well.

I do not agree with GLG's methods of attaining points...including but not limited him playing an 11 year old multiple times to get the easy points.

Now knowing that I agree with you I would like for you to read this part extra careful as to understand what I'm saying so I don't have to repeat myself yet again. Just because he took advantage of an 11 year old does not mean that he is prohibited from being a competent/decent/above average player. It does mean he is prohibited from the list of players i respect and it does mean anyone who wants to can dislike his use of this tactic. That said his moral code and skills at playing conquer club are mutually exclusive and therefore just because he is willing to take advantage of 11 year old's does not mean he cant be a good player.

i think you are missing my point.
i dont care is he good or bad player(im claiming he is bad because he is afraid to play games where he doesnt have clear advantage... and the fact two of you played together doesnt change that), im saying he is disgusting human being. also, him trying to set up some kind of legacy by playing in same team with Josko is kind of funny. who he tries to fool with it?! at the end, COF offered him fair matchup. new settings with which noone is familiar, on his favorite map, and he declined! and after that he is fishing with some kind of imaginary settings, trying to find a way which will give him advantage, or at least clear his name. Fruitcake challenged him in freestyle game, he declined. COF challenged him in sequential game, he declined. so how on earth that makes him good player?! just because he discussed his moves with you?!

My ultimate point is that people are so angry at GLG that they get mad at him no matter what he does. I'm not a fan of the guy's methods but I really think people need to relax a little when it comes to scrutinizing every single action he takes on the site. Just because he is playing with Josko does not mean that he isn't contributing to the game in some way or another...

Lastly the reason he created this thread is the same reason he played a game with me, he would like to try and prove to COF that he is not just some scrub but rather a decent player. It is the same reason he invites people to live chat/pm conversations...to try and get them to not vocally hate him in the forums.

If this is really his intention then he's going about it all wrong. All he has to do to get respect is play a game, based on his own merits. Win or lose, it will garner him respect because at least he tried. Even if he brings a great teammate to help, that would be understandable. We all know he's not that experienced in team play. That's why I think he made this thread to bring attention to himself, that's all. People get mad at him when he starts something, not the other way around.

I have serious doubts about people ever respecting him as a player, and you can see people in this very thread vocalizing the fact that they will never respect him as a player.

I agree with you on the front of him loving the attention and his need to be constantly in the spotlight. But I must say you are wrong to assume that him playing team games for the public will change peoples perceptions of him.

People will judge him for his actions of the past. I know this because it still happens to me today and his been about a year since I farmed my way to the top. I very much doubt any of the top team game players will ever respect me even if I increase my rank through sequential games of some kind. This is why I'm posting in this thread...not because I want to defend GLG, but because I feel very few players can even begin to grasp the situation from the viewpoint of the other side.

i will never respect him as a player because i cant respect him as a human, and that will cover all skills he might have...
and if its to any significance, i respect you as a player(and yes, i am one of top team players ). i dont care about your score or you previous achievements. you are someone who gladly accept all kind of challenges on different maps with different settings, and at the end, wins majority of them. that shows much more skill then some mindless farming.

[ljex]

i think you are missing my point.
i dont care is he good or bad player(im claiming he is bad because he is afraid to play games where he doesnt have clear advantage... and the fact two of you played together doesnt change that), im saying he is disgusting human being. also, him trying to set up some kind of legacy by playing in same team with Josko is kind of funny. who he tries to fool with it?! at the end, COF offered him fair matchup. new settings with which noone is familiar, on his favorite map, and he declined! and after that he is fishing with some kind of imaginary settings, trying to find a way which will give him advantage, or at least clear his name. Fruitcake challenged him in freestyle game, he declined. COF challenged him in sequential game, he declined. so how on earth that makes him good player?! just because he discussed his moves with you?!

Firstly, not willing to partake in a game in which you don't have the clear advantage is not a bearing on skill. You can say he is a bad person or whatever but from this you cant comment on his skill as a player of risk. We seem to keep rehashing the same arguments so I wont go into further detail or bother responding to this point again.

As for the challenges he denied you cant really blame him for the one he denied from COF and it is his right to deny challenges if he so chooses.

COF City Mogul 1 vs 1 game - now i dont know the exact settings he choose, but i am relatively sure they encompassed city mogul and sequential. Now for anyone who has ever played city mogul it becomes clear that first turn advantage is a huge advantage for just about every settings. If COF will share his settings i will happily explain just how big of an advantage first turn would be with those settings.

Fruitcakes challenge - i think he should have accepted it, but it is a players right to not play a challenge vs a player and i can understand the logic of not playing a challenge vs players you dont like.

i will never respect him as a player because i cant respect him as a human, and that will cover all skills he might have...
and if its to any significance, i respect you as a player(and yes, i am one of top team players ). i dont care about your score or you previous achievements. you are someone who gladly accept all kind of challenges on different maps with different settings, and at the end, wins majority of them. that shows much more skill then some mindless farming.

Thanks for the compliment, though sadly it is the exception rather than the norm.

I'm not saying you should ever respect him as a player, I'm just saying that you cant say he is a sucky player due to his farming pursuits. While I will never respect him as a person, if he eventually proves himself as a player I may respect him merely for his game accomplishments. I guess maybe it just boils down to the fact that we draw the line between player and person differently.

[KiIIface]

In response to you i propose myself, rhp 1, viper overlord and ddgrimes vs you are your most intimidating 3 on the map and settings of:
All Your Base Belongs To Us
fog
freestyle
manual
chained

If you only want doubles then same setting with rhp 1. If you want a different map/settings let me know.

All I have to say is

Amazing. 4 days, no reply, 893 reads and NO challenge acceptance. But it is good to see no flaming/baiting.

;-D

PS, I already rocked you once
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=8767595

[ljex]

In response to you i propose myself, rhp 1, viper overlord and ddgrimes vs you are your most intimidating 3 on the map and settings of:
All Your Base Belongs To Us
fog
freestyle
manual
chained

If you only want doubles then same setting with rhp 1. If you want a different map/settings let me know.

All I have to say is

Amazing. 4 days, no reply, 893 reads and NO challenge acceptance. But it is good to see no flaming/baiting.

;-D

PS, I already rocked you once
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=8767595

what did you expect, you are challenging him to a map where you surely have the advantage both score wise (you will win more than 20 lose less than 20) and map experience wise as he has never played a game on that map. If you are going to challenge someone on a specific map...at least make it a neutral and commonly played map or one each party is familiar with.

[pitrules88]

Who abuses the system more, glg or Jippd? This dude Jippd runs his score up on 1-min Das Schloss vs. noobs. At least my 1-min games are all on classic which gives people a significantly higher chance of winning (getting lucky). Tired of ppl abusing the system and then calling out other people like this.

[ljex]

Who abuses the system more, glg or Jippd? This dude Jippd runs his score up on 1-min Das Schloss vs. noobs. At least my 1-min games are all on classic which gives people a significantly higher chance of winning (getting lucky). Tired of ppl abusing the system and then calling out other people like this.

You abuse the system more than jippd, you foe anyone halfway decent at your settings so you only play noobs...jippd's games are open to anyone and i would guess that his average opponent over the last 50 games is higher than your average opponent over the last 50 games. I too am tired of people abusing the system though jippd is not one of them.

[Jippd]

Who abuses the system more, glg or Jippd? This dude Jippd runs his score up on 1-min Das Schloss vs. noobs. At least my 1-min games are all on classic which gives people a significantly higher chance of winning (getting lucky). Tired of ppl abusing the system and then calling out other people like this.

For 1 v 1 1 minute speed games:

Average score of the last 20 opponents played by Jippd: 1804.95

Average score of the last 20 opponents played by pitrules88: 1631.75

[lynch5762]

Who abuses the system more, glg or Jippd? This dude Jippd runs his score up on 1-min Das Schloss vs. noobs. At least my 1-min games are all on classic which gives people a significantly higher chance of winning (getting lucky). Tired of ppl abusing the system and then calling out other people like this.

For 1 v 1 1 minute speed games:

Average score of the last 20 opponents played by Jippd: 1804.95

Average score of the last 20 opponents played by pitrules88: 1631.75

No abuse by either.... relative rank says it all. If abuse was the problem, then the relative rank would clearly be lower but it is not in this case. Guys this is not rocket science for crying out loud!

BLAH BLAH BLAH!.... (that takes the place of the 5000 words I was thinking about writing here )

Call me arrogant or whatever you chose, but I am quite certain that if I put my mind to it, I could reach the "conqueror" level without question. The bottom line is this....

There are many different strategies to be played on this site and there will always be players that find ways to take advantage of them. I have a limited amount of time that I can allot to this stupid addiction so I have to prioritize. I can work towards an individual score or I can try to help my clan be successful. I have obviously chosen the latter. I know of several players that seem brilliant when it comes to team strategy yet they can't resist the lure of the 8 player speed assassin game. I also know of players that appear to be the cream of the crop when it comes to playing freestyle games yet they suck at team strategy. There is no way to compare the ability of one method verses another so we have to keep things in perspective.

Players will gain points using freestyle or farming or whatever the hell they think they can to increase their score but there is one thing that not one person can dispute..... "relative rank"

It tells all.... end of story

[freakns]

I know of several players that seem brilliant when it comes to team strategy yet they can't resist the lure of the 8 player speed assassin game.

so im not the only one?!

[Dako]

Nope, you are not the only one :D.

[eddie2]

Who abuses the system more, glg or Jippd? This dude Jippd runs his score up on 1-min Das Schloss vs. noobs. At least my 1-min games are all on classic which gives people a significantly higher chance of winning (getting lucky). Tired of ppl abusing the system and then calling out other people like this.

You abuse the system more than jippd, you foe anyone halfway decent at your settings so you only play noobs...jippd's games are open to anyone and i would guess that his average opponent over the last 50 games is higher than your average opponent over the last 50 games. I too am tired of people abusing the system though jippd is not one of them.

he don't foe players he loses to. if so why am i not foed i have won the last 2 via him

[ljex]

Who abuses the system more, glg or Jippd? This dude Jippd runs his score up on 1-min Das Schloss vs. noobs. At least my 1-min games are all on classic which gives people a significantly higher chance of winning (getting lucky). Tired of ppl abusing the system and then calling out other people like this.

You abuse the system more than jippd, you foe anyone halfway decent at your settings so you only play noobs...jippd's games are open to anyone and i would guess that his average opponent over the last 50 games is higher than your average opponent over the last 50 games. I too am tired of people abusing the system though jippd is not one of them.

he don't foe players he loses to. if so why am i not foed i have won the last 2 via him

ask him to share his foe list then...lets see how many people are on it

[swimmerdude99]

Who abuses the system more, glg or Jippd? This dude Jippd runs his score up on 1-min Das Schloss vs. noobs. At least my 1-min games are all on classic which gives people a significantly higher chance of winning (getting lucky). Tired of ppl abusing the system and then calling out other people like this.

You are crazy. He sets up speed games anyone can join. Its not noobish because as far as I know he doesn't foe people who can beat him or have beaten him. He is good at his setting and plays anyone and all from what I can see.

[pmchugh]

I know of several players that seem brilliant when it comes to team strategy yet they can't resist the lure of the 8 player speed assassin game.

so im not the only one?!

Who says you're brilliant at team strategy?

[freakns]

noone. its just seems like that sometimes