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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Postby crazystef on Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:20 am

Hey now....is it that obvious?...or are you just happy to see my focus has shifted from you! lol
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Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Postby General Quigley on Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:47 am

SKILL INDEX Points won divided by games played.
Wolfboy137 - 1.09 (73/67)
AlexEverard - 1.04 (76/73)
General Quigley - 0.93 (115/123)
DominatED - 0.81 (29/36)
crazystef - 0.47 (61/131)

We are at last approaching the end of the First Nuclear Competition. Wolfboy has been playing really well, three golds on the first three maps, to maintain a solid hold on first. Alex has slipped just a fraction. Averages above 1.0 are so hard to maintain. I have improved my standing a bit. I am pretty tough on the Berlin 1961 and the Peloponnesian War maps where victories brought me in some points.

Since my last post, sixteen games have concluded for a total of 158. A fifteen percent participation rate is needed in order to achieve a skill index rating and to know your place in the Competition, which means a minimum of 23 Competition games concluded. Only five Nuclear warriors so far have had the stamina and dedication to participate in fifteen percent of the Competition games.

Game 172 was a strange one. It was a Doodle Earth map and there were two players left, Alex and Wolfboy. Poor Wolfie got so nervous at the prospect of facing Alex alone that he nuked himself. 8-[ By doing this, Wolfboy actually eliminated himself from the game allowing Alex to win while literally asleep. That's what I call intimidation!

I am opening the last 20 games of the Competition today and there are 14 still open. If someone new signs up for 30 of the 34 games, they can still just meet the 15% minimum needed to rate in this Competition. So tell your friends about it!

TEAM GAMES ANNOUNCEMENT

For some of the people who have participated most, I am creating some team games and plan to invite you to be on a team together. My theory is that we have learned a lot about how to play Nuclear spoils on these maps over the last 5 months. so I think we would make a formidable team. But mainly, I think it would be really fun to play with you for a change instead of against you! There are five key participants in this First Nuclear Competition, and I'd like to bring in one medium participant per team game invite, so please don't expect to be invited to all the team games, but for the key five (you're in the index above) I promise you'll be invited to at least 50% of all team games unless you express a wish not to be.

IBERIA MAP
161 is Concluded Game 12849310: Wolfboy137 -gold, General Quigley - silver, crazystef - bronze
181 is Open Game 12935793: General Quigley ... so far

JAPAN MAP
162 is Concluded Game 12849313: Wolfboy137 -gold, crazystef - silver, brentros - bronze
182 is Open Game 12935799: General Quigley ... so far

FIRST NATIONS AMERICAS MAP
163 is Concluded Game 12849116: Wolfboy137 - gold, biggaz34 - silver, DominatED - bronze
183 is Open Game 12935806: General Quigley ... so far

FIRST NATIONS NORTH AMERICA MAP
164 is Under Way Game 12849320: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, DominatED, rcoss, mrgrateful, rockfist
184 is Open Game 12935817: General Quigley ... so far

FIRST NATIONS SOUTH AMERICA MAP
151 is Concluded Game 12775481: beire1990 - gold, DominatED - silver, General Quigley - bronze
165 is Open Game 12849327: General Quigley,Wolfboy137, crazystef, biggaz34, mikey4 ... so far
185 is Open Game 12935828: General Quigley ... so far

HIVE MAP
152 is Under Way Game 12775487: General Quigley, cavscorpion, ML46, AlexEverard, kahunah, danc050, Machee, torres44cm
166 is Open Game 12849330: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, AlexEverard, cavscorpion, Obiwayne99, wreckermom, 1234qwer ... so far
186 is Open Game 12935853: General Quigley ... so far

AMERICAN CIVIL WAR MAP
145 is Concluded Game 12726305: General Quigley - gold, what,me worry? - silver, titocakes - bronze
167 is Concluded Game 12849334: repjay - gold, General Quigley - silver, rellis - bronze
187 is Open Game 12935841: General Quigley ... so far

PELOPONNESIAN WAR MAP
113 is Concluded Game 12623108: webb4545 - gold, pmhedt - silver, bpt777 - bronze
133 is Under Way Game 12775496: General Quigley, AlexEverard, DominatED, Wolfboy137, gpowell, crazystef, Cornal Clink, MrMister
153 is Concluded Game 12775511: General Quigley - gold, AlexEverard - bronze, Wolfboy137 - bronze, ernistas - bronze
168 is Under Way Game 12849416: General Quigley, galatsipao, Wolfboy137, Mithrandylan, crazystef, Pampalik, mkay, jordan-n
188 is Open Game 12935855: General Quigley ... so far

CLASSIC CITIES: LONDON MAP
169 is Under Way Game 12849419: General Quigley, aboynamedboobs, crazystef, AlexEverard, Elsuper bano, marvis, FiesesKies, Cornal Clink
189 is Open Game 12935857: General Quigley ... so far

NORTH AMERICA MAP
154 is Concluded Game 12775516: AlexEverard - gold, General Quigley - silver, crazystef - bronze
170 is Under Way Game 12849420: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, rcoss, Cornal Clink, Kisti, clowntriste
190 is Open Game 12935861: General Quigley ... so far

8 THOUGHTS MAP
135 is Concluded Game 12698037: tnecniv3 - gold, General Bax - silver, AlexEverard - bronze
155 is Open Game 12775522: General Quigley, crazystef, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137 ... so far
171 is Open Game 12849421: General Quigley, pepol, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard ... so far
191 is Open Game 12935868: General Quigley ... so far

DOODLE EARTH MAP
172 is Concluded Game 12849426: AlexEverard - gold, Wolfboy137 - silver, Fakyras - bronze
192 is Open Game 12935873: General Quigley ... so far

CIRCUS MAXIMUS MAP
136 is Under Way Game 12698040: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, tnecniv3, Zecoe, Filthy Phil, rvgd, AshB
156 is Open Game 12775527: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, General Greivous ... so far
173 is Open Game 12849349: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, mikey4 ... so far
193 is Open Game 12935882: General Quigley ... so far

HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS MAP
137 is Open Game 12698041: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, Bilbo1_OC ... so far
157 is Open Game 12775533: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
174 is Open Game 12849429: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef ... so far
194 is Open Game 12935884: General Quigley ... so far

WWII EUROPE MAP
158 is Concluded Game 12775535: tanios - gold, czech59 - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze
175 is Concluded Game 12849353: bpbp - gold, domif150 - silver, Tallishpaul - bronze
195 is Open Game 12935887: General Quigley ... so far

EUROPE 1914 MAP
176 is Under Way Game 12849356: General Quigley, h-bomb, El_Jefe, Franci_Magnus, Wolfboy137, Mithrandylan, EmperorChung, crazystef
196 is Open Game 12935893: General Quigley ... so far

BALTIC CRUSADES MAP
177 is Concluded Game 12849360: trboye - gold, DominatED - silver, AlexEverard - bronze
197 is Open Game 12935899: General Quigley ... so far

BERLIN 1961 MAP
139 is Concluded Game 12698048: Wolfboy137 - gold, General Quigley - silver, crazystef - bronze
159 is Concluded Game 12775542: General Quigley - gold, geobarto - silver, matbat - bronze
178 is Open Game 12849363: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard ... so far
198 is Open Game 12935902: General Quigley ... so far

TRENCH WARFARE MAP
140 is Open Game 12698053: General Quigley, crazystef, what,me worry?, wombat, tommygun64 ... so far
160 is Open Game 12775547: General Quigley, chadrea, crazystef, Wolfboy137, tommygun64 ... so far
179 is Open Game 12849367: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard ... so far
199 is Open Game 12935906: General Quigley ... so far

AUSTROHUNGARIAN EMPIRE MAP
180 is Open Game 12849371: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, 11Joan11, crazystef, mrgrateful, shmorg ... so far
200 is Open Game 12935912: General Quigley ... so far

Earners of ten or more points regardless of participation level:
General Quigley - 115
AlexEverard - 76
Wolfboy137 - 73
crazystef - 61
DominatED - 28
nicestash - 24
Funkaholic - 18
wombat4 - 14
mrgrateful - 12
11Joan11 - 11
Flann - 11
Birdman13 - 10
CJMONSTERNATOR - 10
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Postby crazystef on Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:01 am

Keep up the good work GQ! I am enjoying this tourney very much. Thanks for starting the team games.
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Postby nicestash on Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:17 pm

Congrats gentlemen, the winner of this tourney will likely be one of the top 5 players who have competed in this competition!

General-if you truly need proof that manual drop requires less skill than automatic drop look no further than the rankings-it's no coincidence that the vast majority of the top players' win percentage has gone down.
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Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Postby General Quigley on Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:24 pm

SKILL INDEX Points won divided by games played.
AlexEverard - 1.09 (93/85)
Wolfboy137 - 1.02 (86/84)
General Quigley - 0.96 (137/143)
DominatED - 0.83 (35/42)
crazystef - 0.45 (67/149)

As you can see, we have a new first place. Congratulations to Alex on some outstanding recent results! He has really figured out this manual deployment strategy to come on strong here at the end.

We are approaching the end of the First Nuclear Competition. All of the Competition games have been previously listed. Only twelve games remain with spots open (listed below).

The team games I started have really been fun. It has been a treat to play with people I have become so accustomed to playing against. As a team, we have won, I estimate, about 70% of our team games.

IBERIA MAP
181 is Concluded Game 12935793: General Quigley - gold, Cornal Clink - silver, AlexEverard - bronze

JAPAN MAP
182 is Under Way Game 12935799: General Quigley, mike333, Zzuchini Khan, AlexEverard, crazystef, DominatED, FieryOvaltine, surinam

FIRST NATIONS AMERICAS MAP
183 is Under Way Game 12935806: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED, FieryOvaltine, bigsacks, mullefar

FIRST NATIONS NORTH AMERICA MAP
164 is Concluded Game 12849320: DominatED - gold, rockfist - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze
184 is Under Way Game 12935817: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED, FieryOvaltine, Flann, kenster1

FIRST NATIONS SOUTH AMERICA MAP
165 is Concluded Game 12849327: amirzinaty - gold, Wolfboy137 - silver, General Quigley - bronze
185 is Under Way Game 12935828: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, amirzinaty, DominatED, FieryOvaltine, behemoth46, ibzo44

HIVE MAP
152 is Concluded Game 12775487: AlexEverard - gold, cavscorpion - silver, torres44cm - bronze
166 is Concluded Game 12849330: AlexEverard - gold, 1234qwer - silver, cavscorpion - bronze
186 is Open Game 12935853: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, AlexEverard, rockfist, msommers, kahunah ... so far

AMERICAN CIVIL WAR MAP
187 is Concluded Game 12935841: repjay - gold, General Bax - silver, rotoryturbo - bronze

PELOPONNESIAN WAR MAP
133 is Concluded Game 12775496: General Quigley - gold, DominatED - silver, MrMister - bronze
168 is Concluded Game 12849416: Mithrandylan - gold, jordan-n - silver, crazystef - bronze
188 is Under Way Game 12935855: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, 11Joan11, istanbul39, Zecoe, AladdinSane, pzandt

CLASSIC CITIES: LONDON MAP
169 is Concluded Game 12849419: marvis - gold, AlexEverard - silver, Cornal Clink - bronze
189 is Concluded Game 12935857: AlexEverard - gold, General Quigley - silver, General Flashman - bronze

NORTH AMERICA MAP
170 is Concluded Game 12849420: General Quigley - gold, AlexEverard - silver, crazystef - bronze
190 is Concluded Game 12935861: General Quigley - gold, AlexEverard - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze

8 THOUGHTS MAP
155 is Under Way Game 12775522: General Quigley, crazystef, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, d1v1jak, EsLeFaith, Ghost0204, genevieve roi
171 is Open Game 12849421: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, General Greivous ... so far
191 is Open Game 12935868: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, RISEME, Ghost0204 ... so far

DOODLE EARTH MAP
192 is Concluded Game 12935873: DaPewma - gold, Wolfboy137 - silver, AlexEverard - bronze

CIRCUS MAXIMUS MAP
136 is Concluded Game 12698040: Wolfboy137 - gold, crazystef - silver, tnecniv3 - bronze
156 is Under Way Game 12775527: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, General Greivous, DominatED, Schredder22, waltero, freethinker
173 is Open Game 12849349: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef ... so far
193 is Open Game 12935882: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED ... so far

HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS MAP
137 is Under Way Game 12698041: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137, IKE KOD, Schredder22, thehunstman, Sir_Scavenger, Alsacien71
157 is Open Game 12775533: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
174 is Open Game 12849429: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef ... so far
194 is Open Game 12935884: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED 4.7 ... so far

WWII EUROPE MAP
195 is Open Game 12935887: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, DominatED, Redlad, biosistemas1 ... so far

EUROPE 1914 MAP
176 is Concluded Game 12849356: General Quigley - gold, Wolfboy137 - bronze, Mithrandylan - bronze, crazystef - bronze
196 is Concluded Game 12935893: AbioticViper - gold, Bamanole74 - silver, General Quigley - bronze

BALTIC CRUSADES MAP
197 is Under Way Game 12935899: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED, mrgrateful, puppydog85, alferez-cook, Franz Mauer

BERLIN 1961 MAP
178 is Open Game 12849363: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, Clacie ... so far
198 is Concluded Game 12935902: Clacie - gold, General Quigley - silver, DominatED - bronze

TRENCH WARFARE MAP
140 is Under Way Game 12698053: General Quigley, crazystef, what,me worry?, wombat, tommygun64, SkyMonkey6, waltero, jbover
160 is Concluded Game 12775547: Wolfboy137 - gold, tommygun64 - silver, RISEME - bronze
179 is Open Game 12849367: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, ... so far
199 is Open Game 12935906: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, Crazystef ... so far

AUSTROHUNGARIAN EMPIRE MAP
180 is Concluded Game 12849371: FieryOvaltine - gold, crazystef - bronze, Clacie - bronze, DominatED - bronze
200 is Concluded Game 12935912: Clacie - gold, General Quigley - bronze, Bamanole74 - bronze, Redlad - bronze

Earners of ten or more points regardless of participation level:
General Quigley - 137
AlexEverard - 93
Wolfboy137 - 86
crazystef - 67
DominatED - 35
nicestash - 24
Funkaholic - 18
wombat4 - 14
mrgrateful - 12
11Joan11 - 11
Flann - 11
Birdman13 - 10
CJMONSTERNATOR - 10
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Postby AlexEverard on Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:02 am

So, now I have a wolf on my tail ...
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Postby General Quigley on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:49 am

SKILL INDEX Points won divided by games played.
AlexEverard - 1.13 (102/90)
Wolfboy137 - 1.02 (95/93)
General Quigley - 0.96 (148/154)
DominatED - 0.71 (35/49)
crazystef - 0.43 (69/160)

Congratulations to Alex on maintaining his lock on first place. We are approaching the end of the First Nuclear Competition. Eleven games are still in play. Five games have yet to start; they are on the least two popular maps (Trench Warfare and Halloween Hollows). I think the fun to be had on these maps is under rated.

We continue our winning ways in team games. I can only remember losing maybe 2 or 3 of these in about 15 games. Thank you guys for being so willing to participate.

IBERIA MAP is finished

JAPAN MAP
182 is Concluded Game 12935799: surinam - gold, FieryOvaltine - silver, mike333 - bronze

FIRST NATIONS AMERICAS MAP
183 is Concluded Game 12935806: bigsacks - gold, AlexEverard - silver, FieryOvaltine - bronze

FIRST NATIONS NORTH AMERICA MAP
184 is Concluded Game 12935817: AlexEverard - gold, FieryOvaltine - silver, kenster1 - bronze

FIRST NATIONS SOUTH AMERICA MAP
185 is Concluded Game 12935828: behemoth46 - gold, amirzinaty - silver, ibzo44 - bronze

HIVE MAP
186 is Under Way Game 12935853: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, AlexEverard, rockfist, msommers, kahunah, sabbbs, wendall2000

AMERICAN CIVIL WAR MAP is finished

PELOPONNESIAN WAR MAP
188 is Concluded Game 12935855: Wolfboy137 - gold, AladdinSane - silver, General Quigley - bronze

CLASSIC CITIES: LONDON MAP is finished

NORTH AMERICA MAP is finished

8 THOUGHTS MAP
155 is Under Way Game 12775522: General Quigley, crazystef, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, d1v1jak, EsLeFaith, Ghost0204, genevieve roi
171 is Under Way Game 12849421: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, General Greivous, willis1990, röde orm, Filthy Phil
191 is Under Way Game 12935868: General Quigley, AlexEverard, Wolfboy137, crazystef, RISEME, Ghost0204, gordo.sands, röde orm

DOODLE EARTH MAP is finished

CIRCUS MAXIMUS MAP
156 is Concluded Game 12775527: Wolfboy137 - gold, crazystef - silver, waltero - bronze
173 is Under Way Game 12849349: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, aboynamedboobs, surreyhammer, röde orm, General Bax, Schredder22
193 is Concluded Game 12935882: General Quigley - gold, David Garland - silver, AlexEverard - bronze

HALLOWEEN HOLLOWS MAP
137 is Concluded Game 12698041: General Quigley - gold, thehunstman - silver, Wolfboy137 - bronze
157 is Open Game 12775533: General Quigley, crazystef, Wolfboy137 ... so far
174 is Open Game 12849429: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef ... so far
194 is Open Game 12935884: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, DominatED ... so far

WWII EUROPE MAP
195 is Under Way Game 12935887: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, DominatED, Redlad, biosistemas1, AlexEverard, Zecoe, bpt777

EUROPE 1914 MAP is finished

BALTIC CRUSADES MAP
197 is Concluded Game 12935899: mrgrateful - gold, Wolfboy137 - silver, General Quigley - bronze

BERLIN 1961 MAP
178 is Concluded Game 12849363: AlexEverard - gold, epic0002 - silver, willis1990 - bronze

TRENCH WARFARE MAP
140 is Concluded Game 12698053: General Quigley - gold, SkyMonkey6 - silver, waltero - bronze
179 is Open Game 12849367: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, crazystef, AlexEverard, ... so far
199 is Open Game 12935906: General Quigley, Wolfboy137, Crazystef, MrMister ... so far

AUSTROHUNGARIAN EMPIRE MAP is finished

Earners of eleven or more points regardless of participation level:
General Quigley - 148
AlexEverard - 102
Wolfboy137 - 95
crazystef - 69
DominatED - 35
nicestash - 24
Funkaholic - 18
mrgrateful - 15
wombat4 - 14
11Joan11 - 11
Flann - 11
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Postby nicestash on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:58 am

Amazing how everyone's skill index seems to have fallen since the introduction of manual games...
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Postby General Quigley on Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:42 pm

Alex's index rating actually went up by more than 3/10 of a point. Stef's and my index stayed pretty much constant. DominatED's took quite a hit with the manual deployment. Wolfboy played the majority of the Competition games under manual deployment rules because he joined us late. So it isn't really possible to say whether or not automatic deployment is better or worse for him.

One big difference I did note between automatic and manual deployments is that automatic deployment rules are much more popular. Games took much longer to fill with the manual deployment setting and fewer high rated players seemed interested in joining. I believe group think is the main cause. On the strategy forum posts and at the schools that teach strategy, automatic deployments are assumed. Therefore, those who are taught how to play CC, and those who read the forum posts all have reached some consensus on how best to play with automatic deployments. For those who think for themselves, and for those who like to develop winning strategies independently, the deployment setting really doesn't matter because winning strategies are devisable under either setting for us.

Having played a large number of games under both deployments, my experience is that the strategies one needs to employ for each way of playing are different, but that one type of strategy is no less deep than the other, just different, very different in fact in two important respects. If you can figure out strategies for winning with automatic deployment, then you can figure out good strategies for winning with manual deployment too. I think you deprived yourself of a good opportunity to develop those strategies by petulantly withdrawing your participation because you did not get your way. But that is your loss. It was fun playing with you in the first half of the Competition.

There has been one very significant benefit I have noted. Since this Competition came to an end and I have begun playing more games with a wider field my rating has gone up. Participating in this tough Competition as much as I did for the last seven months may have kept my rating down a bit artificially. I learned a lot about strategy under conditions of manual as well as automatic deployment. I am really seeing the benefits when I play against a more general population.
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Re: Winter 2013 Nuclear Competition

Postby crazystef on Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:34 pm

Well put GQ! As you know I don't put too much weight on ranking. Through this competition I have been as high as a sergeant and as low as a cook. Manual deployment engages people to think faster in the beginning especially when you drop your big stack next to an opponents big stack. Thank you GQ for this tourney being new to CC I have learned so much.
-stef
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