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Debriefing of Game 10476657 (With Photos)

Postby Viceroy63 on Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:00 pm

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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:43 am

I would like to point out that if you click on Quick Reply instead of POSTREPLY then you can still see the game map as you make your comment. This would be better for referring back and forth from the map.
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby Fewnix on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:08 am

Great job setting this up viceroy =D> =D>

Will not always post the training field, but people might find these excerpts interesting. The first turn I was tempted to go for a spoils but was cautioned against , by the F4 (First Four Moves) and a teacher who says the guildeines may not be in stone but...

Your Plans :Tempted to take one of the singleton terts- Vancouver, Lagos, Cairo, Mumbai, Lagos- for a spoils but the F4M says just deploy on first move. Particularly tempting would be to take Mumbai and fort Novosibirsk and Hong King to Dubai Instead, how about I deploy one on Edmonton, one on Bogota, one on Dubai, no attacks, and fort Hong Kong to Novo?


The point of the F4M is that they're just guidelines, not rules set in stone. One thing to note here is that if you were to take the spoil, you'd be neglecting the other areas of the board, and it's important to establish a foothold in NA early on. Dubai is also a great place to hold.

However, say you could fort to those spots and still have the opportunity to take a spoil. I'd greenlight that decision if you were strong enough in the other two places.

Here, though, your second move is the better one. Watch out for Bogota, though. Pink may be gunning for the bonus, so you might want to drop that troop elsewhere.

I suggest you drop

1 to N2, 1 to A1, and 1 to F5. Right, fort A5 to A4. (I like HK's position better, but A1 covers two of those terts already, so Novos is better here).


And people might want to note the warning that pink was gunning for the-South American bonus Is pink here? :?: :?:
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:41 am

Reds drop were not the best in a way. Not location wise but that you could not build many really strong stacks right away. I was in the same boat as Cyan but I really wanted Chicago [N4] so I deployed 2 troops there right away. And from my other 3 single territs, I went with Johannesburg [F6] because of it's more central position on the map. As Red I would have dropped 2 on Dublai [A1] and 1 on Edmonton [N2].

The first round is about deciding what is the territory that you want to keep and which ones you are willing to risk. That is why we don't attack on the first round. But we did Ok.

By the way; as a strategy team member, did you see my article submission for the next issue of the SoC newsletter? I am writing about the first move. Are you submitting anything this time around for the SoC newsletter?
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby macbone on Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:30 am

I added a link to the game by using the [Game] tag, Viceroy.

You know, it's an interesting feature of Bonus Monkeying, but they do tend to stick around until pretty late in the game. If your aim is to win the game, it's not as effective as the Escalating Juggernaut, but some tournaments give points out to 2nd place, 3rd place, 4th place, and so on. Being primarily concentrated in one spot limits one's offensive capabilities and makes it easier for the final elimination run, but the higher troop count does keep the BMs around in the game.

Nice initial positioning, Viceroy, on A2 and N4. O4 is a nice foxhole if no one goes for the Oz bonus.

Fewnix doesn't look too bad on N2, A1, and A5. Plus, with O1, he gets to decide whether he's going to block off Oz.

Looking down the log a bit, I see Green BMed Oz. Might have been a different game otherwise.
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:29 am

Hi Macbone; Glad to see you could join the party. Have you tried the dip yet? :lol:

A link to the game sounds like a good idea but when you get there it's only one color. This thread will be an excellent teaching and learning tool because we can all see the game as it progresses and there is no time pressure to hurry up on the comments. If I see that everyone is getting into the conversation then I hold back on the next round. Or if I see that the conversation is digressing then I announce that the next day I will insert the next round and alert everyone in the game.

Hopefully as the game progresses we should see plenty of ideas being discussed here and several conversations at the same time. Won't that be a blast. I am also hoping that you will come by every once in while and give us your evaluation of the round. The best way to evaluate this first round however, is to wait until the 2nd round is posted and we see how everyone's initial move settled in and what in means for the players in terms of future moves and prospects. This should be very interesting.
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby kierkegaard_2 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:10 am

I was blue. First one out. I did not like my drop near SA and Oz.

I deployed Mexico City with the hopes someone would let me out into NA and reinf. to Nairobi with the hopes of getting out of Africa.

Looking back, I should have deployed Manila or Moscow.

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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:47 am

Thank you Kierkegaard_2 for joining the Party. I hope to continue to read many more observations about the game from you. Remember always that what we get out of a thing will depend on what we put into a thing. I see a big number on the views and a small one on the actual comment replies. Some people are just naturally shy and so they won't get much out of this. But hopefully as the rounds come and go and the game becomes more interesting they will comment more and more. Tomorrow I will be posting "Round 02."

I agree with your deployment to Mexico City [N8] and with that you should have deployed 1 troop to Manila [A8] as well.
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby kierkegaard_2 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:49 pm

I think Mex City was a bad deploy. Unless you are a bm (I am not), I should have known that bangkok, sao paolo and mex city would be the 1st to get taken by a bm. Next would be lagos and nairobi depending on opp. drops.

That leaves moscow and manila. Manila is so out of the way, it's a natural place to sit and accumulate spoils.
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:58 pm

You may be right of course but in the very first round you don't really know yet who the BM's are, if any. Also you need to have as many stacks in as many locations possible. So you needed a stack in North America and the only one available to you was Mexico City.

Mexico City was a perfectly good deploy at the time rather then just giving it up at the start of the game. I am hoping to see if there were not any way to move the stack further into NA as we continue with this discussion in round 02.
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby bman8397 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:45 pm

Hey guys, I was pink. I probably should've tried to spread myself out a little more instead of going all out for s. America. Probably for havana or london
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:00 pm

Hi Bman:

Yeah we ended up fighting for it all. Did you know that you really helped me in my game a lot? Oh yeah. In subsequent rounds I shall explain. But our fight was one of my most heart pounding that I have ever had in CC. Can't wait to get to those final rounds.

For now, Thank you for dropping by, presenting yourself and participating in the discussion; I am really glad to see you here. There is just so much that I have planned to be discussed as the rounds come and go. So many questions as well.

Keep coming back. It works if you work it so work it. :D
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby Kiwi_NZ on Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:19 pm

hi all (yellow)

still learning SOC term games,as you can see.
I think,maybe one on N9,insteed of three on A9 Beijing

2012-01-22 23:37:02 - Kiwi_NZ received 3 troops for 7 regions
2012-01-22 23:37:05 - Kiwi_NZ deployed 3 troops on Beijing
2012-01-22 23:37:31 - Kiwi_NZ reinforced Istanbul with 2 troops from Cairo
2012-01-22 23:37:43 - Kiwi_NZ reinforced Montreal with 2 troops from Reykjavik
2012-01-22 23:37:49 - Kiwi_NZ ended the turn
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:06 pm

Hi Kiwi_NZ; Good intro. It's good to say your color in the game so we all can associate and remember. I was Cyan.

I think you had a good drop there at Beijing. I would have only dropped 2 there though and the other troop in S4.

I like to have more then 3 stacks if I can, more then 5 is just overkill. But with three good strong stacks, well, that's all anyone really needs.

Glad you came by and keep coming back. tomorrow I will post round 02.
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Re: Game 10476657 Discussion

Postby Viceroy63 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:01 pm

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As always; Remember to read the game log first to see who did what in the second round. Just click on "SHOW" and read. The map is the final position of Round 01 so that the game log states who did what from the map positions. Also if you click on "Quick Reply" instead of on POSTREPLY, then you can still see the map in case you want to refer to it during your comments. Please try not to quote the map because then it will get confusing with all the maps everywhere. Only quote what other people said. I wont make as many comments so as not to dominate the discussions. I want every one to feel like this is your forum because it is. I will only make my own comments and questions. Thank You for your participation. You make this all happen.
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