Questions for SoC Advisers

The SoC Training Academy and its Training Grounds provide basic training for new and old members looking to enhance their game strategy. "Train a Cook today, lose to a Sergeant tomorrow"

Moderators: Academy Team, Global Moderators

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.

Questions for SoC Advisers

Postby Viceroy63 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:23 pm

show


I guess you can say that I like to recycle because I am not just going to let this thread go into the abyss. LOL. This thread was formerly, "Coming Soon to an SoC near You!" Now it's "Questions for SoC Advisers." I can't guarantee that the any Adviser will respond but if you have a question that you would like to see addressed then post it here and see who bites? LOL. This is a completely voluntary thread for the Adviser's. As is everything else in CC. Completely voluntary. Just so we understand. =)

I just wanted to say that this thread is now the thread for any and all questions to, for and about the SoC. This will eliminate starting up new threads just for a single question and will most likely get several answers not just from Adviser's but anyone can and should contribute to the topic talk here.

If the topic talk or question is interesting then an article may be written about it and a link posted in the SoC Report. I would encourage anyone who has an article idea or who enjoys writing, to PM Dhallmeyer, Macbone, Iron Butterfly or myself, Viceroy63 about writing articles for the SoC Report. Just click on our names to contact us.

Answers may or may not appear in this thread or may also be re-posted in the SoC Monthly Report. Also any ideas or comments should be posted here as well please. Anything you would like for the SoC Monthly Report to consider? Let us know. Thank you!
------------------------------------------------------------

(Before February 28, 2013)
Hi fellow students and SoC members and anyone who would like to be.

I would like to ask any and all persons reading this thread to leave a comment or to contact me personally and I would make it known to Dhallmeyer in order to get an idea of what sort of topics you would like to read about in an "SoC Report." I am thinking of things like Graduations and welcoming New SoC Students into the fold and things like that. Of that nature. Perhaps a student of the month or a play of the month, Any and all ideas that you may have.

We will eventually get around to forming an SoC Report, by the SoC and for the SoC. Would you like to be interviewed or hear about your fellow students? Let me know. Any idea at all that you may have or come up with to help us in this endeavor would be greatly appreciated. Also if you would be interested in helping to post such a report, then let me know that also as well or any of the SoC Advisers. Well, don't bother them. Just bother me. LOL. But seriously, this would be our "magazine" so your input is valuable to us. I personally will be one of the contributors to the SoC report and your help and assistance in making this a reality is most appreciated.

Remember that the SoC Report, by the SoC and for the SoC, will be coming to an SoC near You!

[Note]
THIS IS NOT A JOKE! AN SOC REPORT IS IN THE PROGRESS OF BEING CREATED AND YOUR SINCERE INPUT IS MOST WELCOMED AND APPRECIATED. THANK YOU!

Dhallmeyer, Macbone, and IB have final posting authority and the last word on any and all ideas, inputs and suggestions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Last edited by Viceroy63 on Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:36 pm, edited 9 times in total.
Image
An Unproven Hypothesis; The Rise of Ignorance.
Ultimate Proof of Creation. Click the show tab below.
show
User avatar
Major Viceroy63
 
Posts: 1239
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:34 pm
Location: Where No One Has Gone Before.
Medals: 17
Standard Achievement (1) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1)
Fog of War Achievement (1) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Clan Achievement (1) Training Achievement (2) General Contribution (1)

Re: Coming Soon to an SoC near You!

Postby Koganosi on Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:29 am

I would suggest posting it here. Since also more people would be reading it then. Players who didnt check this post or whatsoever could look into here just for reading forums or seeing the last post en be interested in what is happening here. And so joining the SoC as trainee or wanting to help as a trainer in anyway.

Emails could work to but then its to specific people. And people have tedency to not reply then or whatsoever or atleast they wont respond as much as reading it on the forums I quess.

Urs

Koganosi
Image
User avatar
Brigadier Koganosi
SoC Training Adviser
 
Posts: 1223
Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:06 pm
Location: Netherlands
Medals: 61
Monthly Leader Bronze (1) Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (3)
Terminator Achievement (2) Assassin Achievement (3) Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (3) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2)
Fog of War Achievement (3) Trench Warfare Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (1)
Cross-Map Achievement (3) Beta Map Achievement (1) Battle Royale Achievement (2) Ratings Achievement (1) Tournament Achievement (3)
General Achievement (10) Clan Achievement (8) Training Achievement (1)

Re: Coming Soon to an SoC near You!

Postby ben.cleuch on Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:31 pm

Sounds like a very good idea. Would it also include a grads section?
ben.cleuch
User avatar
Captain ben.cleuch
 
Posts: 364
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:31 pm
Location: Scotland uk
Medals: 26
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (3)
Polymorphic Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (3) Trench Warfare Achievement (1) Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (1)
Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (2) Beta Map Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Training Achievement (2)

Re: Coming Soon to an SoC near You!

Postby macbone on Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:48 pm

I'd like another option. =) I'd like to read the Newsletter in the forum and also have it PMed to me in my CC Inbox (not my regular inbox). You can start a subscription list if you want, Viceroy.

But of those options above, I'll go with Forums for now. =)

And a grad section would be a grand idea!
User avatar
Major macbone
SoC Training Instructor
SoC Training Instructor
 
Posts: 5273
Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:12 pm
Location: Looking out over Victoria Harbor, thinking about Middle Earth and how good my wife looks
Medals: 75
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (3) Quadruples Achievement (3) Terminator Achievement (3)
Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (3)
Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (3) Cross-Map Achievement (3)
Beta Map Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (4) Tournament Achievement (8) General Achievement (8) Clan Achievement (9)
Training Achievement (2) Tournament Contribution (2) General Contribution (7)

Re: Coming Soon to an SoC near You!

Postby Viceroy63 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:05 am

Thanks for the input guys. I edited the wording on the votes to show "CC Inbox" because it would be a lot of work to send it to regular emails outside of CC.

It's actually very much easier to just send the SoC Report to every SoC Members CC Inbox But the problem would be if they did not want to receive it in the first place. They may think us soliciting for something.

We could create a separate list by subscriptions only and that would be the trick and the work. Other than that it would all be gravy.

Keep the ideas coming in People. We are aiming to start this next month, in February 2013.
Image
An Unproven Hypothesis; The Rise of Ignorance.
Ultimate Proof of Creation. Click the show tab below.
show
User avatar
Major Viceroy63
 
Posts: 1239
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:34 pm
Location: Where No One Has Gone Before.
Medals: 17
Standard Achievement (1) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1)
Fog of War Achievement (1) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Clan Achievement (1) Training Achievement (2) General Contribution (1)

Re: Coming Soon to an SoC near You!

Postby dhallmeyer on Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:54 am

I think both would be most effective at getting the word out, or perhaps just a pm with a link and a short explanation.
Image
User avatar
Major dhallmeyer
Senior SoC Training Instructor
Senior SoC Training Instructor
 
Posts: 5478
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:47 pm
Location: the un-nutty part of CA
Medals: 44
Standard Achievement (4) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (4)
Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (2) Polymorphic Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2) Trench Warfare Achievement (1)
Speed Achievement (3) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4)
Training Achievement (4) General Contribution (9)

Re: Coming Soon to an SoC near You!

Postby Viceroy63 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:33 pm

Yes; I like that Link idea. It's not too imposing and is just an "FYI" if you want to check it out sort of a deal. That's really what should have been done with the Newsletter I think. I personally don't read it as I am not in any clans or tournaments but I will be reading the SoC Report.

Well I guess I have to though if I am helping in putting it together. LOL.

BTW; While the SoC Report, is not yet ready, Mac's Honor Roll will have that section posted by the end of the day. Today! LInk is below...

SoC's Honor Roll
Last edited by Viceroy63 on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
An Unproven Hypothesis; The Rise of Ignorance.
Ultimate Proof of Creation. Click the show tab below.
show
User avatar
Major Viceroy63
 
Posts: 1239
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:34 pm
Location: Where No One Has Gone Before.
Medals: 17
Standard Achievement (1) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1)
Fog of War Achievement (1) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Clan Achievement (1) Training Achievement (2) General Contribution (1)

Re: Coming Soon to an SoC near You!

Postby Rexara on Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:05 pm

dhallmeyer wrote:I think both would be most effective at getting the word out, or perhaps just a pm with a link and a short explanation.

+1

I read the forums all the time so that will work just fine.
Corporal 1st Class Rexara
 
Posts: 38
Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:44 am
Location: Karlstad,Sweden
Medals: 12
Standard Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1) Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1)
Fog of War Achievement (1) Trench Warfare Achievement (1) Battle Royale Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) Training Achievement (1)

Re: Questions for SoC Advisers

Postby Viceroy63 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:56 pm

I just wanted to say that this thread is now the thread for any and all questions to, for and about the SoC. This will eliminate starting up new threads just for a single question and will most likely get several answers not just from Adviser's but anyone can and should contribute to the topic talk here.

If the topic talk or question is interesting then an article may be written about it and a link posted in the SoC Report. I would encourage anyone who has an article idea or who enjoys writing, to PM Dhallmeyer, Macbone, Iron Butterfly or myself, Viceroy63 about writing articles for the SoC Report. Just click on our names to contact us.
Image
An Unproven Hypothesis; The Rise of Ignorance.
Ultimate Proof of Creation. Click the show tab below.
show
User avatar
Major Viceroy63
 
Posts: 1239
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:34 pm
Location: Where No One Has Gone Before.
Medals: 17
Standard Achievement (1) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1)
Fog of War Achievement (1) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Clan Achievement (1) Training Achievement (2) General Contribution (1)

Re: Questions for SoC Advisers

Postby Degenerate Saint on Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:05 pm

Hello, hope everyone is having a good day! I have a question regarding training time limits: I haven't played a single terminator style game yet. Is there a specific date in which all of my games must be completed in order to (hopefully) graduate? Should I try to play a few 6-7 member term games on the classic map first, or just delve right into this thing? Thanks for your time and assistance, I appreciate it!


30 Days
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class Degenerate Saint
 
Posts: 60
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:22 pm
Location: The Underground
Medals: 12
Standard Achievement (1) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2)
Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (2)

Re: Questions for SoC Advisers

Postby Viceroy63 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:34 pm

Degenerate Saint wrote:Hello, hope everyone is having a good day! I have a question regarding training time limits: I haven't played a single terminator style game yet. Is there a specific date in which all of my games must be completed in order to (hopefully) graduate? Should I try to play a few 6-7 member term games on the classic map first, or just delve right into this thing? Thanks for your time and assistance, I appreciate it!


As far as I understand it, there is no time limit in which to learn the strategy. Some people take to learning quickly while others need more time to really understand the principles involved. The only thing that is really needed is the desire to learn and to stick with the program until you do graduate.

You will automatically meet the requirements for graduation upon learning and playing the strategy. Below is a link to read more about what those requirements are. Hope this is helpful.

Graduation Requirements.
Image
An Unproven Hypothesis; The Rise of Ignorance.
Ultimate Proof of Creation. Click the show tab below.
show
User avatar
Major Viceroy63
 
Posts: 1239
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:34 pm
Location: Where No One Has Gone Before.
Medals: 17
Standard Achievement (1) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1)
Fog of War Achievement (1) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Clan Achievement (1) Training Achievement (2) General Contribution (1)

Re: Questions for SoC Advisers

Postby dhallmeyer on Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:58 pm

To echo what viceroy said, there is no schedule for training. It is entirely self-directed; you work at your own pace.
Image
User avatar
Major dhallmeyer
Senior SoC Training Instructor
Senior SoC Training Instructor
 
Posts: 5478
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:47 pm
Location: the un-nutty part of CA
Medals: 44
Standard Achievement (4) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (4)
Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (2) Polymorphic Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2) Trench Warfare Achievement (1)
Speed Achievement (3) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4)
Training Achievement (4) General Contribution (9)

Re: Questions for SoC Advisers

Postby Degenerate Saint on Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:53 am

Thank you both for the timely response, I greatly appreciate it!


30 Days
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class Degenerate Saint
 
Posts: 60
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:22 pm
Location: The Underground
Medals: 12
Standard Achievement (1) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2)
Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (2)

Re: Questions for SoC Advisers

Postby Lord_Bremen on Mon May 06, 2013 1:17 am

Why don't you guys do flat rate too? Much more strategy there, escalating 90% of the time that you lose it's cause someone else screwed up.
Major Lord_Bremen
 
Posts: 80
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:22 am
Location: Chicago
Medals: 17
Standard Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2)
Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (2) Ratings Achievement (2) Challenge Achievement (2)

Re: Questions for SoC Advisers

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon May 06, 2013 7:25 pm

Lord_Bremen wrote:Why don't you guys do flat rate too? Much more strategy there, escalating 90% of the time that you lose it's cause someone else screwed up.


With the exception of the 90% of lost part, I do agree with you that you lose 'Sometimes' because another messed up and had a failed kill and the next player in line wins the game then. But it is my opinion, and I stand to be corrected here if I am wrong, that even in a perfect game, where everyone plays the strategy of the escalating spoils game perfectly, and waits for the right timing in which to do the kill that the most that you can win is perhaps 30% of your games.

I think that the reason for this is simple to understand. In order for there to be one winner in a 6 player escalating game, there must by necessity also be 5 loser's. lol. So all things being even, the math works out to my point of view and you must lose approximately 80% to 85% percent of your games. That's almost 90%.

I guess my point is that, "You can't win em all."

But to answer your question, and again this is my oppinion, But the "Strategy of the Stack," as I call it, is a simple strategy to teach. The SoC (as I see it) simply wants to instill an understanding of winning strategy principles, at the simplest level to those who really don't have a good understanding of the concept of winning strategy and may believe it to be all luck. That is why those players all have the rank of "Cook" because they play a "Hit or Miss" strategy and not a winning strategy. If your rank is higher than "Cook" then you obviously have a grasp or some idea at least, of the basics of winning strategic principles.

I do believe that an attempt was made for the more complex Flat Rate strategies but I am not sure what ever became of that. But the more complicated that something is, the more that can go wrong with it, the more attention to details that it needs, the more thought that has to be given it, etc. etc. etc. lol. In the end, just helping players grasp the basic understanding of winning principles, is the purpose for the SoC.

That's what I think anyway. :D
Image
An Unproven Hypothesis; The Rise of Ignorance.
Ultimate Proof of Creation. Click the show tab below.
show
User avatar
Major Viceroy63
 
Posts: 1239
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:34 pm
Location: Where No One Has Gone Before.
Medals: 17
Standard Achievement (1) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1)
Fog of War Achievement (1) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) General Achievement (1)
Clan Achievement (1) Training Achievement (2) General Contribution (1)

Next

Return to SoC Training Grounds

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

Login