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Postby happysadfun on Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:33 am

MarVal wrote:No, that's the sign of the city Luxembourg, not the country Luxembourgh.

But thanks for you're suggestion.

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It says Grand Duchy. Isn't that the country?

BTW, is Grtz your multi account or something? :D
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Postby onbekende on Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:51 am

Grand Dutchy a country? :D

no

and grtz is a sort of greetings
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Postby MarVal on Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:01 pm

RuS wrote:And yet again, i'd rather see 'kempen' (with a piece of limburg also) than now the extra continent 'brugse ommeland', in belgium, everyone knows 'de kempen' but not everyone knows 'het brugse ommeland'


Oké, I agree and find it a good option.
I wait if more people wants De Kempen (the north of Antwerpen and Belgisch Limburg) instead of Brugse Ommeland.
So please people let us know what U think about it?

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Postby MarVal on Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:57 pm

UPDATE 02

Below the latest development of the map BeNeLux. Look at the first topic to view the map. Some suggestions that were mentioned:

- Country Ostkantone instead of Country Verviers.
- New Coats of arms of Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg.
- Graphics, such as the sea, the landarea around the BeNeLux and the rivers.

So let us know what U think about the map BeNeLux so far.

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Postby onbekende on Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:09 pm

Very nice, I have only 1 thing to say

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Postby Marvaddin on Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:20 pm

Before that, let me give another look... :D

Well, I still dont believe double numbers can fit well in these little circles, but if you tested already, great :)

Are those dark areas supposed to be hills or something? They are beautiful in pink and green continent, but they arent helping to much in the other areas, specially in light ones where they are not texturized, and mainly in Vlaams Brabant, where it looks like another country, in fact.

About the capitals, can I suggest you change Vlaams Brabant name to Bruxelles, and mark it with a simple star (without the "B") and do the same to other capitals?

I like the ocean. But, the shields are too bright, I believe... And could you try put the names of the continents in the proper colours in the legend? By the way, the title looks like very simplistic, and the map could deserve something more elaborated... why orange, is there a reason (just curious, since you are always posting Benelux in orange, too)?

I suppose you are going to abbreviate some names in the xml, at least, so the drop box wont be gigantic, huh? :wink:

About playability, a classic analysis...
Countries, Border countries, Attack routes.
Luxembourg, 3, 1, 2... bonus 1 ok
La Wallonie, 9, 5, 6... bonus could be 6... or you could block the route to neufchateau.
Belgisch Brabant, 2, 2, 6... bonus 2 ok, since you can start already with half of it... or it all :)
Vlaanderen, 6, 6, 8... for a bonus of 4? And the countries arent connected! Man, this is the most undervalued continent of all maps, not even Africa (classic) can be worse... I would strongly suggest block the routes to the countries to west, and connect the countries, so it would simply suck (with a bonus of 4), but this way and with this bonus its simply the worst ever :shock:
Zuid en Oost (Southeast??) Nederland, 9, 5, 7... bonus of 6 could be ok, but I would suggest block at least one attack route, maybe Drenthe.
West Nederland, 9, 7, 8... bonus 6 is too low... Again, maybe blocking some routes...
Noord Nederland, 4, 3, 4,... bonus of 3 is ok.

In fact, most regions have many borders, many of these borders are small and could be easily removed... Some more unpassable, or little adjusts to borders would be greatly benefic. At least, in my opinion... Or, split some continents? A map with, 3 regions of 9 countries each... and at least 5 borders... the greatest wasteland ever, lol... and 3 minor continents. If you dont grab one of these, to where will you run? :roll:

Dont stress if your goal is something like this, Im just pointing it, so people can discuss, give alternatives, etc... :D
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Postby Wisse on Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:30 am

Marvaddin wrote:Zuid en Oost (Southeast??) Nederland, 9, 5, 7... bonus of 6 could be ok,

no not southeast but south and east
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Postby MarVal on Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:27 am

Marvaddin wrote:Dont stress if your goal is something like this, Im just pointing it, so people can discuss, give alternatives, etc... :D


No, I will not stress. On the contrary I think you're suggestions are great.
You're quit good of making maps (Like Brazil), so I'm glad you will help use to make a playable gamemap. Thanks.

By the way, Orange is the color of the monarchies.

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Postby Wisse on Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:34 am

MarVal wrote:
Marvaddin wrote:Dont stress if your goal is something like this, Im just pointing it, so people can discuss, give alternatives, etc... :D


No, I will not stress. On the contrary I think you're suggestions are great.
You're quit good of making maps (Like Brazil), so I'm glad you will help use to make a playable gamemap. Thanks.

By the way, Orange is the color of the monarchies.

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P.S.: About the Final Forge. I don't think we can put the map BeNelux into the Final Forge. Only AndyDufresne (our Zookeeper & Foundry Foreman) can do it. Or am I wrong?

you are right ;)
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Postby happysadfun on Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:38 am

onbekende wrote:Grand Dutchy a country? :D

no

and grtz is a sort of greetings

Grand Duchy of Luxembourg is the official name. It is ruled by a Grand Duke, so Grand Duchy is its governmental system.

ah, ok.
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Postby onbekende on Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:46 am

perhaps, don't know the english official name

Dutch: "Groothertogdom Luxemburg"
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Postby Wisse on Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:45 am

call it luxemburg or luxembourg and i'll be fine :P
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Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:10 pm

Lets see the most updated version of the map.


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Postby MarVal on Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:28 pm

Tomorrowevening (European time) I will make the newest update with the suggestions of Marvaddin and others.

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Postby MarVal on Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:17 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Lets see the most updated version of the map.

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Andy,

Below the latest development of the map BeNeLux.

UPDATE 03
Larger map :
(600x456)

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Some suggestions that were mentioned:

- Dark areas on the map are gone.
- Capitals stars.
- The ocean less bright.
- Legenda changed.
- In the xml the textures of the countrynames will be shorter.
- La Wallonie 6 extra armies instead of 5..
- Countries in Vlaanderen are connected with eachother.
- Zuid- en Oost-Nederland block one more attack route to Flevoland and Schouwen-Duivenland.
- West Nederland block more attack route to Markizaat and Flevoland.
- 3 continents of 9 countries, 1 continent of 6 countries and 3 minor continents.

So let us know what U think about the map BeNeLux so far.

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