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Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:11 pm
by MrBenn

MrBenn wrote:I read something about Gilligan trying to update some XML? Or did I imagine that?


Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:26 pm
by Industrial Helix
Something is f'd up with the xml positioning. Everything is over about two number spaces to the right.

EDIT: Apparently its only on the large version of the map.

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Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:05 pm
by Gilligan
Sigh...what happened there...I didn't touch any coordinates when changing Levdenburg

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:44 am
by MrBenn
Gilligan wrote:Sigh...what happened there...I didn't touch any coordinates when changing Levdenburg

natty_dread had somthing similar with the Transsib map. Did you use the XML wizard??

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:04 am
by Gilligan
Nope

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:16 am
by natty dread
Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:28 pm
by MrBenn
Did you use jota's map assistant? I once had a strange coordinate shift from using that (although it was with the initial coordinate plotting and not a subsequent change).

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:38 pm
by Gilligan
MrBenn wrote:Did you use jota's map assistant? I once had a strange coordinate shift from using that (although it was with the initial coordinate plotting and not a subsequent change).


Yeah I did, but how does that explain how it was changed? I didn't open the Map Assistant after the map went live because there was no need to.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:34 am
by Dukasaur
natty_dread wrote:Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...


It happened at the same time as they introduced clickable maps. There was nothing wrong with it before that. I can say that with almost 99% certainty, because I played a South Africa turn about half an hour before the clikable update, and another one about 10 minutes after that.







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Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:18 pm
by natty dread
Dukasaur wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...


It happened at the same time as they introduced clickable maps. There was nothing wrong with it before that. I can say that with almost 99% certainty, because I played a South Africa turn about half an hour before the clikable update, and another one about 10 minutes after that.
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It has nothing to do with clickies. The error is in the XML.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:58 pm
by Gilligan
natty_dread wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...


It happened at the same time as they introduced clickable maps. There was nothing wrong with it before that. I can say that with almost 99% certainty, because I played a South Africa turn about half an hour before the clikable update, and another one about 10 minutes after that.
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It has nothing to do with clickies. The error is in the XML.


I didn't touch the XML. Let alone every coordinate by the same distances in the same directions.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:11 am
by natty dread
Gilligan wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...


It happened at the same time as they introduced clickable maps. There was nothing wrong with it before that. I can say that with almost 99% certainty, because I played a South Africa turn about half an hour before the clikable update, and another one about 10 minutes after that.
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It has nothing to do with clickies. The error is in the XML.


I didn't touch the XML. Let alone every coordinate by the same distances in the same directions.


I haven't identified what causes this to happen yet, but it is certain that the distorted coordinates are actually in the xml. I don't know how it is possible.

Go look at it in the map inspector, http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php it shows that the coordinates are wrong even there.

What you need to do is fix the coordinates in the xml.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:05 am
by ender516
Is it possible that one of the tools used for editing the XML was running in a browser at a zoom level other than 100% and got confused? I, for one, have not used chipv's Map XML Wizard in that way, but I could see someone changing the zoom to fit the whole large map and the toolbox onto the screen without overlap. Maybe the point conversions get messed up in that situation.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:03 pm
by Gilligan
ender516 wrote:Is it possible that one of the tools used for editing the XML was running in a browser at a zoom level other than 100% and got confused? I, for one, have not used chipv's Map XML Wizard in that way, but I could see someone changing the zoom to fit the whole large map and the toolbox onto the screen without overlap. Maybe the point conversions get messed up in that situation.


The thing is, it worked when the first map went live. Then BOOM it felt like not working.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:17 pm
by natty dread
It's a very odd phenomenon. Perhaps the internet is becoming sentient and is trying to communicate with us by messing with XML files?

Quick, someone compare the messed up coordinates to the real ones. Perhaps we can discern a message by analyzing the pattern of differences.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:38 am
by natty dread
Ok, what's the holdup here, why are the coords still messed up?

It's kinda annoying in the games.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:54 pm
by Gilligan
natty_dread wrote:Ok, what's the holdup here, why are the coords still messed up?

It's kinda annoying in the games.


No one ever followed up on what the issue was.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:59 am
by natty dread
The issue is, you need to fix the coords on the xml, and then post the updated xml.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:49 am
by Mazzicc
This map needs it's borders more clearly drawn so that you don't put troops in one zone thinking you can attack what appears to be bordering it, only to find out you can't. It cost me a game :( I hate when the borders aren't clear.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:24 pm
by Gilligan
Using Jota's assistant again, it screws it up even more. I made sure the length and width are correct, and they were. Entered coordinates and this is what I get. They are all still off proportionally. I'm about to leave the house, so I'll figure it out when I get home, I'm posting this to keep you in the loop.

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Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:33 pm
by natty dread
Try the XML wizard. I fixed the coords on transsib with it.

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:52 pm
by MrBenn
Please can somebody have a look at getting the xml finished... Thank you!!

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:36 am
by Gilligan
MrBenn wrote:Please can somebody have a look at getting the xml finished... Thank you!!


Working on it...Although I have work today 10-5 and class 6-10:30...so it'll have to be tomorrow!

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:43 am
by Mageplunka69
just please invite me when you need a tester

Re: South Africa 1885 - Updated

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:41 pm
by Gilligan
Here's the new XML...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/14 ... fricaFinal

Here's the coordinates...

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