Salem's Switch V34 [Quenched]

[ender516]

Typo: "Ann Pudeator".

[cairnswk]

Guys, keep suggestions coming please, and thank you for the offerings.
I am still not recovered so don't think i am not ignoring you.
I will post something on this later this week.

[cairnswk]

Typo: "Ann Pudeator".

Fixed, thanks ender516.

[cairnswk]

Well if every starting position included both an Accuser and an Accused, then the immediate bonus would apply to everyone, and that would be fair. Is there any chance that real historical pairings of Accuser and Accused would work on the map?

ooh, that would be neat if it could be done. Plus, it would give games a bit of a jump-start, so that they wouldn't have that wasted time of several rounds before they really got going. I second this if possible.

Yes i think this might be able to be done.
I'll have to do some research to see whom to match with whom.

[cairnswk]

Here is my list of starting positions....below

[cairnswk]

Accused <- Accuser + Third person

• Sarah Good <- Abigail Williams + Ann Pudeator
• Tituba <- Elizabeth Parris + George Jacobs Sn
• Sarah Osbourne <- Thomas Preston + John Proctor
• Dorcas Haore <- Edward Putnam + Giles Corey
• William Hobbs <- Samuel Brabrook + Sarah Bishop
• Rebecca Nurse <- Ann Putnam Jr + Sarah Osbourne
• Martha Corey <- Judge Hathorne + Sarah Cloyce
• Elizabeth Prctor <- Judge Corwin + Susannah Martin

It is proposed that Accuser and Accused start as a pair (everyone gets equal bonus) and the third person starts as a neutral.

Does that work?

[MarshalNey]

I'm confused about the 'third person'. Every one of the third persons is an Accused... are they a starting position? You state that they are neutral, but isn't all of the map neutral except for the starting positions?

Anyway, if you're grouping the starting positions by threes (which I think is best) I would recommend having an Accused + Accuser pair, plus a townsfolk (not an Accuser or Accused). The townsfolk would be free to choose without having to worry about history, so you could use it to tweak your starts.

I noticed that at least two of the sets contain Accusers that start right next to each other (Sam Holbrook and Ed Putnam), which might be unfair to whomever gets them.

-- Marshal Ney

[cairnswk]

MarshalNey wrote:I'm confused about the 'third person'. Every one of the third persons is an Accused... are they a starting position? You state that they are neutral, but isn't all of the map neutral except for the starting positions?

Duh!, what was i thinking, still trying to work all those accused in there i think.
Anways here is the adjsuted list...

Accused <- Accuser + Third person

Sarah Good <- Abigail Williams + George Corwin
Tituba <- Elizabeth Parris + Joseph Buxton
Sarah Osbourne <- Thomas Preston + Lot Conant
Dorcas Haore <- Macy Lewis + James Putnam
William Hobbs <- Samuel Brabrook + Alice Shaflin
Rebecca Nurse <- Ann Putnam Jr + J Trask
Martha Corey <- Judge Hathorne + Eliza Putnam
Elizabeth Prctor <- Judge Corwin + Buffinton Family

MarshalNey wrote:Anyway, if you're grouping the starting positions by threes (which I think is best) I would recommend having an Accused + Accuser pair, plus a townsfolk (not an Accuser or Accused). The townsfolk would be free to choose without having to worry about history, so you could use it to tweak your starts.
I noticed that at least two of the sets contain Accusers that start right next to each other (Sam Holbrook and Ed Putnam), which might be unfair to whomever gets them.
-- Marshal Ney

Ed Putnam is no longer on that list.

Thanks for that MarshalNey

[cairnswk]

On the back of the discussion above....
Version 20 with those start positions as above.

[mr. CD]

I just looked at this for the first time and literally gasped. It is so terribly good looking.

[cairnswk]

I just looked at this for the first time and literally gasped. It is so terribly good looking.

Mmmm, sorry mr.CD, i am not sure how to take you comment...why the gasp...gameplay or graphics?

[Nola_Lifer]

I just looked at this for the first time and literally gasped. It is so terribly good looking.

Mmmm, sorry mr.CD, i am not sure how to take you comment...why the gasp...gameplay or graphics?

lol it was a compliment on the graphics. i think you need a bit more midori in your life.

[MarshalNey]

Excellent, the starting positions are almost set I think.

Just 3 things (really 2):

(1) Judge Hathorn- not so keen on starting a player with a judge, since they can bombard the accused, and hence a starting position for every other player.
(2) Judge Corwin- see above. If you want some starting positions in the township, I'd recommend Tom Beadle and John Best, they're both townsfolk and it would set up an opposing dynamic where whomever started there would have someone opposing them nearby, rather than having a free reign.
(3) Eliza Putnam- she's right next to Marcy Lewis, the only 2 starting positions right next to each other. Eliza Putnam can be exchanged for some other townsfolk away from the other start positions it seems without any problem.

-- Marshal Ney

P.S. I'm putting this in the bulletin this weekend for review by the Surveyors, in anticipation of the gameplay being done as far as my eye is concerned. A few days after that- barring any comments otherwise- a stamp will follow.

[cairnswk]

Excellent, the starting positions are almost set I think.

Just 3 things (really 2):

(1) Judge Hathorn- not so keen on starting a player with a judge, since they can bombard the accused, and hence a starting position for every other player.

(2) Judge Corwin- see above. If you want some starting positions in the township, I'd recommend Tom Beadle and John Best, they're both townsfolk and it would set up an opposing dynamic where whomever started there would have someone opposing them nearby, rather than having a free reign.

OK i understand, but this is what the historical facts are:
Martha Corey was accused by Judge Hathorne + Judge Corwin after examination.
Same with Elizabeth Proctor.
So do you want historical accuracy or gameplay tweeks.

(3) Eliza Putnam- she's right next to Marcy Lewis, the only 2 starting positions right next to each other. Eliza Putnam can be exchanged for some other townsfolk away from the other start positions it seems without any problem.
-- Marshal Ney

Well no, Eliza Putnam was right in the thick of things. my best offer would be to fence between them. She can't be left out of the starts if you want historical accuracy.

P.S. I'm putting this in the bulletin this weekend for review by the Surveyors, in anticipation of the gameplay being done as far as my eye is concerned. A few days after that- barring any comments otherwise- a stamp will follow.

OK, thanks, but let's make syure we've got everyone happy before stamping.

[mr. CD]

I just looked at this for the first time and literally gasped. It is so terribly good looking.

Mmmm, sorry mr.CD, i am not sure how to take you comment...why the gasp...gameplay or graphics?

lol it was a compliment on the graphics. i think you need a bit more midori in your life.

Indeed, I love it.
Wouldn't it be a bit unfair to have a judge as starting point? You could bombard someone who has an accused as starting point righ away.