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Re: Macedonia map

Postby iancanton on Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:57 pm

kristijan_mk wrote:
iancanton wrote:this united nations map shows that macedonia's main road and railway goes directly from negotino to gevgelija, not through kavadarci. can u change gevgelija's border so it borders negotino? similarly, kicevo's only railway on the united nations map goes directly to gostivar. can u remove the mountains between kicevo and gostivar?

http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/ma ... edonia.pdf


you have old map of Macedonian municipalities :)
new one can be seen here - http://travel2macedonia.com.mk/travel-t ... government
but regardless of maps... the highway doesn't pass nor through Kavadarci nor through Negotino. Both towns are around 15 km apart, so geographically there no big reason for changing the borders. there is no big reason not to change it, to be honest :)

it certainly looks as if the railway passes through negotino, which is also very close to the route of the main highway.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... edonia.png
http://www.mkd.com.mk/regional/roadmap.htm

kristijan_mk wrote:On the other hand, I'm against removing the mountains between Gostivar and Kicevo. Basically if only one mountain exists on the map, this one would probably be the one :)

if the mountain there is so symbolic, then i agree that we ought to keep it!

kristijan, it's especially useful to have comments from macedonians like u, not only to correct mistakes, but also to help to develop the character of the map.

ian. :)
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Re: Macedonia map

Postby kristijan_mk on Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:19 pm

as for the road through Negotino, it's very close to the town, but it doesn't passes through it. But that is nitpicking from my side, so I'll leave to the author of the map to decide. As I said, i have nothing strong against connectiong Negotino with Gevgelija.

As for the mountain between Gostivar and Kicevo, just to be clear... there is a road there, but the road goes from 500m altitude in Gostivar to 1200 m, and back to 600 m in Kicevo. And all that in 30-40 km. And from what I've seen on the maps, if there some more difficulty to pass from one territory to other, then that is impassable on the map.
Macedonia is mountainous country, so if we follow the geography literally, there will be mountains everywhere and just one or two road between regions. I don't think that map will be much fun that way.
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Re: Macedonia map

Postby n.n. on Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:16 pm

Hi to all !

Sorry for not posting here for some time...

Here is the latest version (also posted in first page of the topic):
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Changes:
- Negotino is now bordering with Gevgelija
- Kosovo is removed from the bordering countries since it is not officialy an UN country (http://www.un.org/en/members/)

Thank you all for your comments, lets try to make this map happen !
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Re: Macedonia map

Postby Evil DIMwit on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:06 am

Everything seems to check out for the next step. Enjoy your shiny new
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby n.n. on Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:49 pm

Happy as a child !

So, here we are in the Graphics workshop, according to guidelines i should prepare a small version of the map and also try the map with the numbers (troops) included - am i correct?
Is there anything else i should do?

Thanks.
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby skeletonboy on Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:02 pm

The straight lines are quite hard on the eyes, can you maybe curve the corners or something?
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby n.n. on Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:32 pm

Well, the lines are that way intentionally, it is the way map is originally drawn as a vector.
I could make them different in the way you are suggesting but it would break the look i was trying to achieve - kind of broken glass vector shaped look.
In my opinion it is not needed nor it would be beneficiary to maps design/look/feel to change or make the lines curved.
I AM willing to make changes to the map to make it better looking and to make it work in conquer (to be a conquer club map) but this particular request is not something i think should be done and i do not agree that it is a good thing aesthetically in this case.
It could be done though if the opinion of the many outweighs the opinion on the few (myself included).

edit: just wanted to say this - the map is completely vector shaped (and then of course exported to jpg) except the bitmap relief background which is the actual relief in the mapped region
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby skeletonboy on Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:42 pm

I disagree with you but we would have to get more opinions. Maybe do a version with curves and put up a poll?
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby n.n. on Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:52 pm

Maybe...

Anyone else wanting a curved lines version?
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby natty dread on Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:17 pm

Maybe. Do a version with curved lines so we can compare!
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby kristijan_mk on Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:18 pm

yay! the map got its first stamp :)

I like the straight line look. It adds some uniqueness to it.
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby natty dread on Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:21 pm

Some kind of subtle texture on the land area could be worth a try too. If you do it right it can be done without disrupting the clean visual style of the map.
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby Pandemonium on Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:14 pm

I also vote Not to curve the lines - shattered glass effect looks perfect.
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby n.n. on Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:37 pm

natty_dread wrote:Maybe. Do a version with curved lines so we can compare!


Is that an order sir?
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Re: Macedonia map [Gp]

Postby natty dread on Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:48 pm

n.n. wrote:
Is that an order sir?


Well, that depends. If it is, Will you follow it?
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