Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Care to peruse completed maps? Take a stroll through the Atlas.

Moderators: Cartographers, Global Moderators

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:49 pm

Yeah, I think it's related with an old issue, now fixed.
In fact in the same game log we can read :

2011-04-22 00:14:27 - cjmicah received 10 troops for holding 10 Portals
2011-04-22 00:14:27 - cjmicah received 24 troops for holding 12 Deep Land regions

Give every man your ear, but few thy voice. Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgment.
show
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class thenobodies80
Foundry Foreman
Foundry Foreman
 
Posts: 5640
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:30 am
Medals: 70
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (3)
Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Bot Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (4)
General Achievement (8) Map Contribution (7) Tournament Contribution (6) General Contribution (17)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby chipv on Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:52 pm

There does not appear to be any portal bonus given. Instead a deep land region bonus is given but the log
describes it as an incorrect portal bonus.

Code: Select all
2011-03-08 08:25:14 - kirati assaulted IA 10 from IA 07 and conquered it from neutral player
2011-03-08 19:37:31 - kirati assaulted Deep Land 03 from IA 10 and conquered it from neutral player
2011-03-08 20:14:26 - firenice assaulted Deep Land 03 from ID 10 and conquered it from kirati
2011-03-11 12:54:23 - kirati assaulted Deep Land 01 from IA 10 and conquered it from firenice


No portal bonus was given for IA 10...

Code: Select all
2011-03-12 09:24:30 - kirati received 2 troops for holding 12 Portals

No Deep Land Region bonus is reported but +2 is given (should get +2 for DLR and +2 for portal)

Code: Select all
2011-03-12 09:24:46 - kirati assaulted Deep Land 06 from Deep Land 01 and conquered it from firenice
2011-03-12 09:24:59 - kirati assaulted Deep Land 11 from Deep Land 06 and conquered it from cjmicah
2011-03-12 09:25:02 - kirati assaulted Deep Land 05 from Deep Land 11 and conquered it from cjmicah
2011-03-13 02:56:45 - firenice assaulted Deep Land 06 from Deep Land 07 and conquered it from kirati
2011-03-13 02:56:59 - firenice assaulted Deep Land 11 from Deep Land 12 and conquered it from kirati
2011-03-13 11:29:28 - kirati received 4 troops for holding 13 Portals


No Deep Land Region bonus is reported but +4 is given (should get +4 for DLR and +2 for portal)
So looks like DLR is given but is described as a incorrect portal bonus whilst no portal bonus is given.

Code: Select all
2011-03-13 11:30:02 - kirati assaulted Deep Land 06 from Deep Land 01 and conquered it from firenice
2011-03-13 11:31:14 - kirati ended the turn
2011-03-13 17:41:49 - firenice assaulted Deep Land 06 from Deep Land 07 and conquered it from kirati
2011-03-13 17:42:02 - firenice assaulted Deep Land 05 from Deep Land 06 and conquered it from kirati
2011-03-13 19:42:58 - kirati received 2 troops for holding 12 Portals


kirati has lost one DLR
No Deep Land Region bonus is reported but +2 is given (should get +2 for DLR and +2 for portal)
So looks like DLR is given but is described as a incorrect portal bonus whilst no portal bonus is given.

Code: Select all
2011-03-13 19:43:09 - kirati assaulted Deep Land 05 from Deep Land 01 and conquered it from firenice
2011-03-13 19:43:14 - kirati assaulted Deep Land 06 from Deep Land 01 and conquered it from firenice
2011-03-13 21:06:08 - kirati received 6 troops for holding 1 Deep Land region


Now DLR is reported but number of regions is wrong (should get +6 for DLR and +2 for portal)
So looks like DLR is given but is described with wrong number of regions whilst no portal bonus is given.

Code: Select all
2011-03-13 21:06:26 - kirati assaulted Deep Land 07 from Deep Land 06 and conquered it from firenice
2011-03-13 21:06:34 - kirati assaulted Deep Land 12 from Deep Land 07 and conquered it from firenice
2011-03-14 00:36:02 - azak848 assaulted IA 10 from IA 08 and conquered it from kirati
2011-03-14 04:07:35 - firenice assaulted Deep Land 12 from Deep Land 08 and conquered it from kirati
2011-03-14 04:08:15 - firenice assaulted Deep Land 05 from Deep Land 11 and conquered it from kirati
2011-03-14 04:08:26 - firenice assaulted Deep Land 06 from Deep Land 11 and conquered it from kirati
2011-03-14 08:31:57 - kirati received 4 troops for holding 13 Portals


Overall here kirati loses one DLR and 1 portal
No Deep Land Region bonus is reported but +4 is given (should get +4 for DLR and +1 for portal)
So looks like DLR is given but is described as a incorrect portal bonus.

This may have something to do with the fact that Deep Land 01 is included in both overriding continent bonuses.

Has this happened in other games? Has this happened in other maps?
User avatar
Colonel chipv
 
Posts: 2758
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:30 pm
Medals: 44
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (2)
Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (3)
Ratings Achievement (2) Tournament Achievement (5) General Achievement (2) Clan Achievement (5) Map Contribution (1)
General Contribution (10)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby chipv on Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:52 pm

Fasted, ok, so this is fixed now? What was the issue?
User avatar
Colonel chipv
 
Posts: 2758
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:30 pm
Medals: 44
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (2)
Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (3)
Ratings Achievement (2) Tournament Achievement (5) General Achievement (2) Clan Achievement (5) Map Contribution (1)
General Contribution (10)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:14 pm

Simply I forgot to change it. O:)

And yes, it should be fixed now.

Give every man your ear, but few thy voice. Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgment.
show
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class thenobodies80
Foundry Foreman
Foundry Foreman
 
Posts: 5640
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:30 am
Medals: 70
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (3)
Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Bot Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (4)
General Achievement (8) Map Contribution (7) Tournament Contribution (6) General Contribution (17)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby Elegarth on Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:13 pm

I barely ever take part of the map discussions but I wanted to chime in just to say I consider this map's gameplay is awesome, and it is one of the best new maps I've seen in a while. The gameplay is amazing, the bonus scheme allows for thrilling one on one back and forths and the distribution of the territories is also key to the whole set.

Kill me now for spamming ;)
User avatar
Private Elegarth
 
Posts: 39
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:48 pm
Medals: 7
Standard Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (2) Ratings Achievement (3)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:26 pm

              Quenching

---The Beta period has concluded for the Clandemonium Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready to be released into live play.

Conquer Club, enjoy!
              Image

--MrBenn
Image
PB: 2661 | He's blue... If he were green he would die | No mod would be stupid enough to do that
User avatar
Lieutenant MrBenn
Retired Team Member
 
Posts: 7059
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:32 am
Location: Off Duty
Medals: 67
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (3) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (3) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (3)
Speed Achievement (1) Teammate Achievement (2) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (3) Tournament Achievement (2)
General Achievement (6) Clan Achievement (1) Map Contribution (7) Tournament Contribution (2) General Contribution (15)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:35 pm

'Grats, Kab & Co.!

I'm sure Blitzaholic is silently happy, too... :(
User avatar
Corporal Victor Sullivan
 
Posts: 7197
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:17 pm
Location: Columbus, OH
Medals: 45
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (1) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (3) Terminator Achievement (1)
Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (3) Freestyle Achievement (3) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (2)
Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (1)
General Achievement (9) Map Contribution (4) Tournament Contribution (1) General Contribution (6)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby grifftron on Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:23 pm

Congrats Blitz & Kab, ended up a nice map.

-griff
‹army of nobunaga› me and so many other people including people in your own clan look at you as a joke
User avatar
Major grifftron
SoC Training Adviser
 
Posts: 3189
Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:11 am
Location: Chiang Mai
Medals: 120
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (3) Quadruples Achievement (3) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (3) Freestyle Achievement (2) Polymorphic Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (3)
Fog of War Achievement (4) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (3) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (2)
Cross-Map Achievement (3) Beta Map Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (3) Tournament Achievement (8) General Achievement (14)
Clan Achievement (16) Training Achievement (3) Map Contribution (1) Tournament Contribution (30) General Contribution (3)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby rdsrds2120 on Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:25 pm

Yay!Now, time for more maps to go into Beta. Good job, everyone :)

-rd
Image
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class rdsrds2120
Retired Administrator
 
Posts: 7226
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:42 am
Medals: 90
Conquer Cup Bronze Achievement (1) Standard Achievement (4) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (3) Quadruples Achievement (3)
Terminator Achievement (3) Assassin Achievement (3) Manual Troops Achievement (4) Freestyle Achievement (4) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (3)
Fog of War Achievement (4) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (4) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (2)
Cross-Map Achievement (3) Battle Royale Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (3) Tournament Achievement (4) General Achievement (9)
Clan Achievement (7) Training Achievement (3) Tournament Contribution (4) General Contribution (9)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby kchalot on Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:15 pm

Hi guys, thanks for your nice work, it's a nice map.
I'm actually playing the game, game 8967905, and at the renforce phase.
I could do a strange one between Deep Land 01, and Imperial Dragon landing point, (Imperial dragon 10 is neutral ).
Is it a bug ?
Thanks for your help,
Kch
User avatar
Major kchalot
 
Posts: 33
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:41 am
Medals: 21
Conquer Cup Silver Achievement (1) Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (1) Terminator Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1)
Freestyle Achievement (1) Polymorphic Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (3) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (2)
Teammate Achievement (1) General Achievement (1) Clan Achievement (1) Tournament Contribution (2)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:00 pm

Not easy to say what's happening in your game without a screenshot because it's a fog game, anyway, Deep Land 01 only borders with Deppe Land 05 and Deep Land 06.
The fact that Imperial Dragon 10 is neutral doesn't have an effect on the reinforce phase because Clan Portals - in this case ID10 - attack deep portals and not the opposite.

Give every man your ear, but few thy voice. Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgment.
show
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class thenobodies80
Foundry Foreman
Foundry Foreman
 
Posts: 5640
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:30 am
Medals: 70
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (1) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (2)
Assassin Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (2) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (3)
Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (3) Bot Achievement (1) Ratings Achievement (4)
General Achievement (8) Map Contribution (7) Tournament Contribution (6) General Contribution (17)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby iancanton on Sun May 01, 2011 6:41 am

kchalot wrote:I'm actually playing the game, game 8967905, and at the renforce phase.
I could do a strange one between Deep Land 01, and Imperial Dragon landing point, (Imperial dragon 10 is neutral ).
Is it a bug ?

it's not a bug. u had occupied the pinnacle, which gives access to all of the landing points.

ian. :)
Image
User avatar
Colonel iancanton
Cartography Assistant
Cartography Assistant
 
Posts: 1685
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:40 am
Location: europe
Medals: 49
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (1)
Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (3) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (2)
Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (4) General Achievement (4) Clan Achievement (6) General Contribution (12)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby farm on Sun May 01, 2011 2:35 pm

Glad to see it's out of beta and in for good! One of my favorite maps now!
User avatar
Major farm
 
Posts: 26
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:37 pm
Medals: 44
Standard Achievement (2) Doubles Achievement (2) Triples Achievement (2) Quadruples Achievement (2) Terminator Achievement (1)
Assassin Achievement (1) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (2) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (1) Fog of War Achievement (3)
Teammate Achievement (1) Random Map Achievement (1) Cross-Map Achievement (2) Ratings Achievement (4) Tournament Achievement (4)
Clan Achievement (15)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby dacey on Sun May 22, 2011 12:34 pm

Hi all,
I know this map isn't in beta anymore, but I have to say that the description is a bit misleading. I just started a game with it and had no idea what was going on...The "Region number bonus: 1 troop for every 2 regions above 6" is ambiguous at best. My guess was that one would get the normal region bonus for their first six regions, then one troop for every two regions thereafter (ie, +1 for 3 regions, +2 for 6, +3 for 8, +4 for 10,... with a minimum of three). A colleague read it as a bonus (ie, 1 troop for every 3 regions + a BONUS 1 troop for every two regions). And, if you take the actual literal translation of what is written, it should be no troops for less than six regions---since you are apparently replacing the standard (1 troop for every 3 regions with a minimum of 3 troops), you really need to add that there is a minimum of three, or at least note that you are replacing the standard deploy (perhaps by not calling it a bonus).

I glanced back a bit at the discussion (maybe 10-15 pages), and others mentioned this topic. It appeared to have quite a bit of support. Why wasn't anything done to fix this problem? You should be able to understand the rules before you join the game.
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class dacey
 
Posts: 86
Joined: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:25 am
Location: PA, USA
Medals: 14
Standard Achievement (3) Doubles Achievement (2) Manual Troops Achievement (1) Freestyle Achievement (2) Fog of War Achievement (3)
Cross-Map Achievement (2) Ratings Achievement (1)

Re: Clandemonium [GP,GX,XML,BETA]

Postby greenoaks on Sun May 22, 2011 8:23 pm

dacey wrote:Hi all,
I know this map isn't in beta anymore, but I have to say that the description is a bit misleading. I just started a game with it and had no idea what was going on...The "Region number bonus: 1 troop for every 2 regions above 6" is ambiguous at best. My guess was that one would get the normal region bonus for their first six regions, then one troop for every two regions thereafter (ie, +1 for 3 regions, +2 for 6, +3 for 8, +4 for 10,... with a minimum of three). A colleague read it as a bonus (ie, 1 troop for every 3 regions + a BONUS 1 troop for every two regions). And, if you take the actual literal translation of what is written, it should be no troops for less than six regions---since you are apparently replacing the standard (1 troop for every 3 regions with a minimum of 3 troops), you really need to add that there is a minimum of three, or at least note that you are replacing the standard deploy (perhaps by not calling it a bonus).

I glanced back a bit at the discussion (maybe 10-15 pages), and others mentioned this topic. It appeared to have quite a bit of support. Why wasn't anything done to fix this problem? You should be able to understand the rules before you join the game.

i don't see a problem with the wording. it was perfectly understandable to me.
User avatar
Sergeant 1st Class greenoaks
Tech Contributor
Tech Contributor
 
Posts: 9997
Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:47 am
Medals: 138
Standard Achievement (4) Doubles Achievement (3) Triples Achievement (4) Quadruples Achievement (3) Terminator Achievement (3)
Assassin Achievement (3) Manual Troops Achievement (4) Freestyle Achievement (4) Polymorphic Achievement (1) Nuclear Spoils Achievement (4)
Fog of War Achievement (4) Trench Warfare Achievement (2) Speed Achievement (2) Teammate Achievement (2) Random Map Achievement (2)
Cross-Map Achievement (4) Ratings Achievement (4) Tournament Achievement (30) General Achievement (3) Clan Achievement (14)
Tournament Contribution (34) General Contribution (4)

PreviousNext

Return to The Atlas

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron
Login