San Francisco [Quenched]

[boberz]

i like the idea of a satelite view and think the map could be good but i think that the map could benefit from continent bonuses and names because then it seems that a large part of the map is done and it is easier to comment on improvements.

[johloh]

im going to be discontinuing this map for awhile...might come back to it in awhile. gonna let fircoal work on his bay area map and see how that goes.

[Guiscard]

Shame. Was looking very promising.

[Smoy]

looks wicked sweet, but maybe a few to many little territories? i think some of those could be re-thought

[johloh]

alright i couldnt help myself...I enjoyed working on this map too much.

heres an update...



xml done too.

opinions?

[Selin]

i liked the idea and also the map
pls continue to work on it
looks cool

[oaktown]

came along nicely johloh... I just hope I get to forge before you! I know you've heard plenty of my comments, but here are the latest, about which others may have suggestions.

Give the map a title; right now it looks like it's called johloh.

Continent distinctions within the city are still not entirely clear... my crappy eyes have trouble with the color subtleties. Easy for me since I'm local, but perhaps less so for everybody else. Heavier lines help, but could be confused for unpassable boundaries.

Water looks much better, but still a bit weird. I like the subtle texture, but the lighter blur marks are too uniform.

Somebody will point out that the Alameda Naval Air Station closed years ago, and I know you already know that, so I'm pre-empting your critics and challenging them to come up with a better name for that territory. It's called Alameda Point now, which may be confusing next to Alameda. Ditto the Refineries territory, which you could lump under Point Richmond, but I think it is more clear as is.

[DublinDoogey]

I agree with the statements about the water, right now it kinda looks like it's floating on top of something... Not sure what you could do, maybe something similar to Malta where it looks like the land continues under the water? Having good water will be critical to acheiving success because of the map's unique angle. You may also want to add a horizon, with a sunset or something, to help clarify the angle.

[johloh]

oh yeah i forgot to credit oaktown for the help on that version.

he helped me set up a lot of the territories in the east bay as well as the names. and gave me advice on the whole map over the last few versions....

thanks!

Having good water will be critical to acheiving success because of the map's unique angle. You may also want to add a horizon, with a sunset or something, to help clarify the angle.

i agree the water is very very critical. and im having trouble with it. you should have seen it a few tries ago. horizon, i disagree. I dont think the angle is steep enough to see a horizon....if anyone thinks they can do good 3d looking water i would def like to see someone try, i have no idea how to do it well....(i can send you the layered files)

my crappy eyes have trouble with the color subtleties

ill try and work on the colors more, its hard with the transparent nature of the coloring...

[luckiekevin]

i like it but... but no love for the peninsula? South of SF is more intregal to the bay area than North Bay, San Pablo, ect... but way cool map

[luckiekevin]

Also, I think you should use the names china town, and north beach

[johloh]

but no love for the peninsula?

i heat the penninsula, im from HMB originally. but somethings gotta go, and the angles worked best with only the main part of SF showing...

Also, I think you should use the names china town, and north beach

I had them both in earlier versions, but if you look at that part of the map and try and fit in 2 more regions, its kinda messy and congested...i removed them for space...

[Kid_A]

this is almost exactly what i had in mind for an SF map. I can see my apartment!

[luckiekevin]

I see what you mean. Geographically, this portion of the bay makes for the best map. I do think you should call Potrero Hill, North Beach, as most people call it in the city. Can't wait to play this one!

[luckiekevin]

or should i say pacific heights