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Postby Guiscard on Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:47 pm

Not keen on the thick borders between conts, and also I think you can make much more of the title. Also would be good to see alcatraz and the Golden gate bridge.

Might be nice to have a bonus for holding the bridge, and also (not 100% serious) but if you make Alcatraz one way inwards (if you get me) so you can only attack it and hold it, not attack out from it. That might be a fun idea.

Just ideas, though
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Postby Bad Speler on Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:47 pm

ok, the first thing that jumps to mind is the borders seem bright. The ones in Marin seem fine but the rest are bright and hurts my eyes. Also, I like the angle on this map, something different then a straight top down view for a change
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Postby btownmeggy on Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:27 pm

johloh wrote:im not getting a lot of feedback on this really...somebody blast me and tell me its terrible or something.

or atleast give me ideas of other things to update, i cant work on it because there is nothing else to change!


FONTS! As I said, they're ugly. Really.
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Postby KEYOGI on Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:30 pm

The whole thing looks a bit uninspired to be honest. For a map that is 3D it looks kind of flat if you get what I mean. Try some different effects with fonts, legend and title for a start.
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Postby btownmeggy on Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:38 pm

KEYOGI wrote:The whole thing looks a bit uninspired to be honest. For a map that is 3D it looks kind of flat if you get what I mean. Try some different effects with fonts, legend and title for a start.


I agree. I actually think the borders and playability are quite good. The creator managed a good mix of continents without the use of impassables that most people fall back on, but the look is more or less unappealing to me. The colors and fonts just don't do it for me.
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Postby johloh on Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:08 am

ok...thanks for the input! i need it!

-new fonts, maybe try for a more 3d look (countries, legend, title)
-try new colors (for continents)
-add in golden gate bridge / alcatraz
-unthicken borders to make them all the same skinnier one
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Postby EvilOtto on Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:21 pm

What about an false scale, international orange drawing of the golden gate bridge? Maybe some other pieces of artwork to decorate the map? (a boat/dolphin in the water, buildings in downtown, hippy beggers in the haight, AT-AT cranes in oakland, etc.).

I like the basic satellite approach, but that doesn't mean you can't add some "tourist map" features. This map could be more friendly to players that don't know the area (I'm okay with the colors, but marin/richmond colors are hard to tell apart if you don't know which is which).

Or are there ways you could push the "satellite" quality? What if the ocean had a grid of lat/longitude lines? Or if the title/names/borders had more of a military-satellite-being-used-to-track-troop-movements feel to it? I guess I'm saying pick more of a theme and push it in that direction (tourist map or spy satellite or something else).

What if you used a double line instead of a thick line for continent borders? Dotted lines? Colored lines? Just brain storming...
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Postby oaktown on Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:12 pm

EvilOtto wrote:Or are there ways you could push the "satellite" quality? What if the ocean had a grid of lat/longitude lines?

This would deal with the problem of the water not having any perspective... could be a simple fix to a nagging problem.
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Postby johloh on Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:42 pm

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-im thinking about restarting with this as the base image...as its prettier, has better mountains, includes the ocean (already looking 3d)
-its pixelated on the water because i lowered the quality to upload
what do you guys think? worth restarting?
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Postby johloh on Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:45 pm

i could also try and angle that last image just right so the water matches up and just cut/paste the water into my old map
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Postby johloh on Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:43 pm

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well its either better, or way worse.

-removed thick continent borders
-switched colors of richmond/s.san francisco
-added in realistic water
-added 3d looking test (not sure if i like it or not)
-dashed lines over bridges

still to do...
-maybe add alcatraz/golden gate bridge
-make the key text 3d

well? well?
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Postby Bad Speler on Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:10 pm

Perhaps make the text at the tob of the map smaller than the text at the bottom of the map to add to the 3d look.
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Postby Wisse on Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:13 pm

the sea looks good,
and i don't like the 3d tekst
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Postby RjBeals on Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:33 pm

I love the map - great job!

I don't like the 3D text. Maybe less obtrusive flat font would look better (to me at least)
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Postby johloh on Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:35 pm

I don't like the 3D text. Maybe less obtrusive flat font would look better (to me at least)

i agree. some people asked for a more 3d look, i thought id try it. its too overwhelming, all you see is the text...
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Postby johloh on Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:41 pm

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back to old text, 3d text did seem very popular (and i didnt like it either!)
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Postby SS sem0me on Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:46 pm

Dude that's awesome. Great idea.
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Postby RjBeals on Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:47 pm

A+

I can't wait to play this. I hope it goes through final forge soon !!
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Postby SS sem0me on Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:05 pm

Can't get over this map. It is great
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Postby Guiscard on Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:01 pm

Looing smart but its just lacking something in my opinion. Have you considered my previous suggestions about a bonus for the bridge or the more unorthodox one about Alcatraz not being able to attack outwards (just one ways into the territory).

I love SF, on par with Barcelona as my favourite city, and I love the top down view. Just missing a spark at the moment I think...
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Postby johloh on Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:42 pm

Just missing a spark at the moment I think...

i agree. im going to try and implement some stuff with the bridge or alcatraz, maybe some sort of landmarks bonus too. i dunno, just wanted to get the basic graphics in line first. the water was bugging me.
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Postby oaktown on Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:14 am

water is much improved... nice idea you had there johloh. I like what you've done with the colors in the legend as well.
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Postby killza666jrr on Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:28 am

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Postby killza666jrr on Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:29 am

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Postby perchorin on Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:14 am

this map is BAD-ASS!
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