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Postby gavin_sidhu on Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:03 pm

get rid of black and white territory. Really want to see a map with mountains and unpassables, because this is currently extremely unplayable.
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Postby Wisse on Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:58 am

Guiscard wrote:I like the names and suchlike, and I'll say again that the visual style is striking... Very original. I seriously would get rid of the black and white territory. its a minor one, only small, and it doesn't need to be there really. Not gonna add much to gameplay.

Just out of interest where di the texture for the sea come from???


ok i will trow away that country with the next update this one
i have that texture, from the group "patters 2" and its called "water"

here i got some options for makeing the font readable, i will set up a poll for it
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Postby gavin_sidhu on Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:24 am

you need to texture the grey area because there is soo much of it
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Postby Lone.prophet on Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:34 am

the grey is tewtured and arent there a bit less countries?
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Postby Wisse on Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:42 am

29 countrys
3 players: each 9 and 2 neutral
4 players: each 7 and 1 neutral
5 players: each 5 and 4 neutral
6 players: each 4 and 5 neutral

and there is a texture in the grey/brown area

but vote please...
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Postby Qwert on Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:47 am

qwert wrote
Hinijang terittory its out of map.
You can put some pictures what present neigbours of china in these gray terittory.
What these in north of Ш.Hizаng terittory_


Its look that you dont read my opinion why :?:
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Postby Wisse on Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:54 am

qwert wrote:qwert wrote
Hinijang terittory its out of map.
You can put some pictures what present neigbours of china in these gray terittory.
What these in north of ?.Hiz?ng terittory_


Its look that you dont read my opinion why :?:

srry i did read it but forget to comment about it

the pictures comes later, i want first the names, legenda, bonuses, rivers & other impossible borders, sea routes & other routes

and i didn't understand your other question
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Postby Wisse on Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:53 pm

till now most people do like the normal font, so i will have that till the votes changes
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Postby Wisse on Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:17 pm

an update:
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put a flag of china in it and put the name china on the flag (also did the texture on the flag)
sea-routes and bridges
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trowed the black/white country away


the only thing is that i don't know if the sea routes looks good, i have no idea how to make them better

i think the tekst in the legend looks great and the bridge do too

the only things i have to make no are impossible borders and army shades i think
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Postby Wisse on Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:58 pm

i have now addes armie shades:
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i don't know if you like them


questions for now:
1) what can i do about the sea routes, i don't like them
2) do you like everything (the new updates)
3) what must i do with imposible borders? must i make the ones there are in real-live or just put them where i want?
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:18 pm

Wayyyy Heavy on the east. I guess that is how China is but I dont like it.
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Postby Qwert on Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:22 pm

Its these problem with me?
I will put my qwestin 3 time.
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Hinijang terittory its out of map.
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Postby Marvaddin on Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:28 pm

I hate the stripped texture and all the fonts you put to vote. I like the flag (not the title being on it) and the texture of the surrounding area.

Plus, I still think the continents are very poorly constructed: Zhejiang is the single country that is not a border country of its continent. And why dont you make a better use of huge territories like Xinjiang?
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Postby Nobunaga on Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:06 pm

Sea Routes: Your lines are too thick, in my opinion, though the color is good. A razor thin line with Neon, and a Drop Shadow would look nice, I think.

I'm not a fan of the font (the on-country names), but I could get used to it, I suppose. The block style is hard to read.

Impossible Borders: That's a tough one. You can put them where you wish, of course, and I think very few people would complain (I dropped a mountain range in western Ireland (British Isles Map) and I've heard few complaints). It would be nice to match up such borders with real-life obstacles, though this isn't always possible. China has a lot of mountains in the west, and the Gobi Desert. I suppose the Yellow River would work as well.

... Big China fan, here. Keep it up!
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:41 am

an impassable border could be the great river
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Postby lozzini on Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:21 am

How about a differant font for each continent?
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Postby Wisse on Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:03 pm

qwert wrote:Its these problem with me?
I will put my qwestin 3 time.
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Hinijang terittory its out of map.

i said that id didn't understand that, what do you mean whit that?
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Postby Wisse on Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:08 pm

Marvaddin wrote:I hate the stripped texture and all the fonts you put to vote. I like the flag (not the title being on it) and the texture of the surrounding area.

Plus, I still think the continents are very poorly constructed: Zhejiang is the single country that is not a border country of its continent. And why dont you make a better use of huge territories like Xinjiang?


i will try other fonts, because 30% of the people said other fonts, and i think thats much enough
i must make impossible borders, i didn't make them yet so thats why they are nearly all borders,
and some terretorys are big, thats china. there are lost of maintains there so not much people live there, because its to cold and high. thats why they are big i can't do much about it ;) i did already split up xizang, but i can't find any reason for the others

i don't like the most textures u mostly use (no offence), i wanted something else than an other map, some people like yours some mine ;)

and i will ry to find anather texture for the land around china
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Postby Wisse on Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:12 pm

Nobunaga wrote:Sea Routes: Your lines are too thick, in my opinion, though the color is good. A razor thin line with Neon, and a Drop Shadow would look nice, I think.

I'm not a fan of the font (the on-country names), but I could get used to it, I suppose. The block style is hard to read.

Impossible Borders: That's a tough one. You can put them where you wish, of course, and I think very few people would complain (I dropped a mountain range in western Ireland (British Isles Map) and I've heard few complaints). It would be nice to match up such borders with real-life obstacles, though this isn't always possible. China has a lot of mountains in the west, and the Gobi Desert. I suppose the Yellow River would work as well.

... Big China fan, here. Keep it up!


a drop shadow, didn't thought about it yet, thnx, and i will try to make them smaller, but what do you mean with a razor thin line? (i am dutch i don't know everything ;) )

thnx for the yellow river idea, i can make it nearly as in real-live
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Postby Wisse on Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:16 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:an impassable border could be the great river


can you post an image of that river i don't know wich river you mean, if i go to search i can't find it.


also i have some mountains in mind to make
and mayby the great wall
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Postby Wisse on Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:58 am

update:
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another texture for the land random china
thinned the sea routes and put a shade after it
changed the armie shades
made 2 impossible borders and a legend for the borders (didn't made the bridges over the river, you can say where i must put them)

do you like one of the 2 fonts i tryed now:
Shanxi
Hebei
i personily like Shanxi
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Postby Marvaddin on Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:16 pm

Wisse wrote:and some terretorys are big, thats china. there are lost of maintains there so not much people live there, because its to cold and high. thats why they are big i can't do much about it ;)

Its not supposed to be the real China, with a regional government or something alike. Its supposed to be a CC map. So, yes you can split territories or join them. If you have not a good name, you can call them North Xinjiang and South Xinjiang (just an example)

The new font is better, but I think the letters are very big and you would have room problems.
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Postby Wisse on Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:27 pm

Marvaddin wrote:
Wisse wrote:and some terretorys are big, thats china. there are lost of maintains there so not much people live there, because its to cold and high. thats why they are big i can't do much about it ;)

Its not supposed to be the real China, with a regional government or something alike. Its supposed to be a CC map. So, yes you can split territories or join them. If you have not a good name, you can call them North Xinjiang and South Xinjiang (just an example)

The new font is better, but I think the letters are very big and you would have room problems.

if i make then 1 thing tinyer they are so tiny you can't read them :S
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Postby bedplay on Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:47 pm

Countries are ok, but you could do with about 8 more, 36 is a nicer number (3, 4 & 6 go in perfectly)

The font is beautiful! keep it as is please!!! it's one of the best features to look at on the map! (maybe you could make it all one colour to stop a few people complaining) It's one of the best fonts I have seen on maps/in general and it fits perfectly.
Please don't use the stupid other ones.

one last thing, The sea routes and bridges are horrible, the need to suite the map more. personally, i hate bridges anyway, but if you must, have simpler/nicer ones, and the sea routes look horrible as one straight uncut line, i suggest taking a look at a few other maps.

That is the only real nitpick, this is a great map, and I look forward to playing it :wink:
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Postby Wisse on Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:51 pm

bedplay wrote:Countries are ok, but you could do with about 8 more, 36 is a nicer number (3, 4 & 6 go in perfectly)

The font is beautiful! keep it as is please!!! it's one of the best features to look at on the map! (maybe you could make it all one colour to stop a few people complaining) It's one of the best fonts I have seen on maps/in general and it fits perfectly.
Please don't use the stupid other ones.

one last thing, The sea routes and bridges are horrible, the need to suite the map more. personally, i hate bridges anyway, but if you must, have simpler/nicer ones, and the sea routes look horrible as one straight uncut line, i suggest taking a look at a few other maps.

That is the only real nitpick, this is a great map, and I look forward to playing it :wink:


the problem about the sea routes and bridges is i don't know how to make them better, so if you got idea's how i can mke them better say it :)
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