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Postby Banana Stomper on Tue May 02, 2006 3:18 pm

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Ok, I think this should be about done. Sorry hoff, i want to keep the coin big, i like it.

I put in an explanation for how the embassies work. I could take stuff out and use that space for an explanation, but i feel like what i have in there suffices, my roommate gets it, and he's a dumbass. (thats a total lie, he's a genius, but thats beside the point)

If someone out there who isn't familiar with the discussion of the embassies could take a look at that and tell me if it makes sense to them, that would be great.

I decided to keep the backround as the rivers, i like it better that way too.

Jota, good call on Morrowind. I'm happy making that worth a little less. It balances the map out some more.

I went with two for the bonus, because i can not in good conscience make holding one country worth the same amount as holding another whole continent.

Compass at the bottom right, its there because it doesn't have to be very big, not much else fits there.

I made the gradient a little more subtle. I like it this way.

Its done in my mind, if you guys see any glaring errors or something like confusing borders, point that out. and if you feel so inclined, complain about the graphics, we'll see if i listen to you :D
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Postby Hoff on Tue May 02, 2006 3:24 pm

Fine keep the coin big and in a wierd spot. But atleast make it so it fits in the screen. Make it a tad bit smaller so the glowing outside rings dont go off the map. And I still dont like gradient oceans... lol
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Postby HighBorn on Tue May 02, 2006 3:38 pm

i still love it
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Postby Shadow Dragon on Tue May 02, 2006 3:38 pm

I think it looks really good right now.

Being a Elder Scrolls fan and all I'm sort of annoyed by the fact that Valenwood and High Rock don't exist on it but thats just me and I guess it doesn't really matter to much and it probably would be sort of hard to impliment them into it.

But yeah It looks great and I can't wait to play it.
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Postby Banana Stomper on Tue May 02, 2006 3:41 pm

Yea, sorry about the omissions, I guess some sacrifices had to be made. They are there in spirit though.

HighBorn, i think you loved this when it was still that shitty bubble wrap looking map, haha. :D
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Postby Hoff on Tue May 02, 2006 3:45 pm

It dont think it makes sense for an ocean to have a gradient. but thats just me
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Postby areyouincahoots on Tue May 02, 2006 3:49 pm

The names on the orange continent are hard to read....
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Postby Hoff on Tue May 02, 2006 4:01 pm

light purpley water skeeves me out...
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Postby Shadow Dragon on Tue May 02, 2006 4:05 pm

I have two suggestions that I just though of.

1.I suggest changing the name of Wayrest to High Rock.

2.I suggest changing the embassy in Elsweyr to Valenwood.
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Postby Banana Stomper on Tue May 02, 2006 4:38 pm

Ok people. I finished my physics exam today, and may have sacrificed an A in that class for this map. But coming up friday is my math final. I think i'm going to have to take a bit of a break in order to learn me some surface integrals....cause honestly, this stuff is about the hardest thing i've ever had to do in school. If i keep posting a lot, yell at me! But keep posting stuff, cause its nice to take a littel study break and see what you guys have to say about the map. (Who am i kidding, i'm addicted)
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Postby Shadow Dragon on Tue May 02, 2006 6:36 pm

ok sounds good, good luck with your final and all.

Few more suggestions about the embassys

Since most of them are inside the country instead of on a border so maybe the others could be moved.

Such as the one in Cyrodiil to Cyrodiil and the one in Skyrim to either Hrothgar, Falcreath, or Dawnstar.

Well thats all I have, I can't wait until this map comes out.
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Postby HighBorn on Tue May 02, 2006 6:36 pm

lol.. arent we all??
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue May 02, 2006 9:02 pm

Well lets see...


~~Visual Appeal~~


---I like how things are coming along. The oceans look much better now, I like the gradient as it is, and the same goes for the rivers. The compass in the bottom corner does look better than the previous reverse coin, but also could be taken out with you think it clutters it too much. I'm indifferent really either way. I personally like how the large coin is and where it is placed. I like the radiating circles. It looks so real that I could touch it and hold it in my palm.

---As for Elsweyr's countries being to hard to read, I think they are alright. I am not sure there is much you can do. Making the names lighter is almost worse because of the bright on bright. I think the dark on the bright works better than the previous version. Black Marsh's still could be darkened a little, similar to Cyrodiil. It also looks like 'Sancre Tor' is a shade of red different than the countries in the same continent.

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~~~Nitty Gritty~~~

---As for the embassies it's an interesting idea that could help set our map out apart from other ones. I particularly like that it is not needed to go for them, but simply and option that is there. As suggested earlier, either move all the embassies toward the inner of the continent or to a border, to help keep a uniform feel.
Looking close at how the embassies are placed, perhaps better locations could be...

>>>>Hammerfell's-- in Elsweyr
>>>>Skyrim's-- in Black Marsh
>>>>Morrowind's-- in Hammerfell
>>>>Cyrodiil's-- in Summerset Isle
>>>>Summerset Isles'-- in Cyrodiil
>>>>Elsweyr's-- in Morrowind
>>>>Black Marsh's-- in Skyrim

That would keep players from having to trek so far, but far enough. Also it would help move Cyrodiil's even farther away since in relation to the other embassies it was rather close.

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~~Quick Fixes~~

---Perhaps make the border between Soulrest and Lilmoth clearer...Lilmoth can't attack Murkwood can it?

---Maybe even make the border between Sancre Tor and Fang Lair more precise.

---In Morrowind perhaps a bridge from Velothi Mts. to Vvardenfell, otherwise you nearly have to go in a one way circle to take over the area.



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Postby Banana Stomper on Tue May 02, 2006 11:24 pm

One thing i'm trying to do with the placement of the embassies is to remove the possibilty of holding some continents, and owning all of your embassies. For example, with your suggestion if you hold hammerfell, elsweyr, and morrowind, you are completely self contained. no reason for someone to try and take the embassy you hold, and no reason to after another embassy. And you'd be pumping out an ungodly number of troops. Just another thing to consider.

I would put the embassy in the continent cyrodiil into the country cyrodiil, but its just too small.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue May 02, 2006 11:26 pm

It seems though holding Hammerfell, Elsweyr, and Morrowind would be rather difficult. I can see sort of why you placed them where you did (at least in the respective continents), I just wanted to give you other options to look into.

Edit: Psst, I like the gradients as they are, just to show my stance in that again. (hehe, done as requested ;))

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Postby Hoff on Wed May 03, 2006 12:08 am

you guys are conspiring against me. I like the gradient in the oceans in the poll...but i'm not a big fan on gradients in the ocean just in general. Real oceans dont have gradients...
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Postby Banana Stomper on Wed May 03, 2006 12:21 am

sure they do. From the sun. I think. Maybe
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Postby Derwiddle on Wed May 03, 2006 2:30 am

I think it looks much better, though I still like the gradients whether they're realistic or not. Brightens it up. Lol :wink:
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Postby Hoff on Wed May 03, 2006 2:33 am

Banana Stomper wrote:sure they do. From the sun. I think. Maybe


So then it appears that your map is being played at sunrise. But we will be playing the map all day long stomper! Ever think of that! lol
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Postby Banana Stomper on Wed May 03, 2006 10:38 am

What better time to attack than at the crack of dawn?
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Postby Hoff on Wed May 03, 2006 11:17 am

how bout at night when your enemy is sleeping?
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Postby Banana Stomper on Wed May 03, 2006 11:22 am

These aren't the modern times with night vision and whatnot. We can't see at night. Bad idea.
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Postby rocksolid on Wed May 03, 2006 11:41 am

Guys, this is going to be an awesome map and sorry for not saying anything earlier, but maybe if the mountains are on a different layer you can tweak that layer's colour levels a little so that the mountains look less like poo.
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Postby Banana Stomper on Wed May 03, 2006 9:10 pm

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Ok, i'm done. And its about time. i need to learn now. This is my submission to Lack. Thanks to all of you for your input and making this map rock. Hopefully I'll find some time this summer to come up with another.
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Postby HighBorn on Wed May 03, 2006 9:13 pm

Nice job all around.. ill play it for sure
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