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Re: Antarctic - let's do it! read here if interested

Postby natty dread on Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:20 am

Yeah... But what about the south pole? And would there be any other bonuses beside the base autodeploy?

Also this would mean we would neet at least 16 bases, and preferably at least 24 regular territories.
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Postby army of nobunaga on Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:52 pm

natty_dread wrote:No I mean design the gameplay for the map... you seem to have lots of ideas, and the point of this thread was to find someone to design the gameplay for an antarctic map, so I could just do the graphics...

Open ms paint... take some existing map of antarctic, doodle the borders & territory names on top of it, bonus areas etc.

If you don't want to or don't have the time I understand... Bison king already made one gp plan, but I thought it would be cool if I could get some competing designs and then choose the best ;)



dude, I have TONS of time, still waiting for a professional level job to land in my lap.. lol

Id love to
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Postby natty dread on Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:58 pm

Great... give it a shot then ;)
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Postby army of nobunaga on Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:22 pm

cool man, im excited. company leaves in a little bit, ill grab a six pack and get started.
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Postby The Bison King on Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:49 pm

dude, I have TONS of time, still waiting for a professional level job to land in my lap.. lol

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Postby army of nobunaga on Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:52 pm

The Bison King wrote:
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lol, thats the problem. I use to be a director of marketing for a hospital system in another life before I went into contracting for militarys... lol

the hospitals here dont market :-)

But McAllen texas is near by so we will see.

Ive got some great Ideas for this map.. I hope everyone likes the ideas.
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Postby The Bison King on Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:47 am

ve got some great Ideas for this map.. I hope everyone likes the ideas.


Looking forward to seeing them.
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Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:32 pm

Well, while waiting for further gameplay ideas, I made this:

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Can't have a map of antarctic without penguins...
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Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:20 pm

How about one territory... he who gets the drop gets the game. Totally random.

Antarctica: The Russian Roulette of Continents.

And as dumb as this sounds, I would play this game at least once, if not then multiple times.
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Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:23 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:How about one territory... he who gets the drop gets the game. Totally random.

Antarctica: The Russian Roulette of Continents.

And as dumb as this sounds, I would play this game at least once, if not then multiple times.


:-s

Yeah ok... let's put that in the maybe pile.
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Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:10 pm

Well, it should probably go in the no pile... but think about it. The ominous image of Antarctica, a list of 7 colonels and all you need to do is join to get their points... maybe.
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Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:59 pm

Mm-hmm. How would one get those colonels to join though?

Seriously though, IH, if you have any ...eh... serious gameplay ideas for this map, you are just as welcome as anyone else to put together a gameplay draft and post it here... can't have too many ideas after all. ;)
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:07 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:Well, it should probably go in the no pile... but think about it. The ominous image of Antarctica, a list of 7 colonels and all you need to do is join to get their points... maybe.

Sounds like an idea from the Foundry Past---I recall a slot machine map. :)

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As for the map, if there is any difficulty figuring out the direction of the project, one could always do a futuristic Antarctica map, I see some fun potential for that...but I suppose it makes sense to get a vanilla Antarctica map first.


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Postby natty dread on Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:12 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:As for the map, if there is any difficulty figuring out the direction of the project, one could always do a futuristic Antarctica map, I see some fun potential for that...but I suppose it makes sense to get a vanilla Antarctica map first.


Mainly, I'm just hoping to bypass that pesky 2 map limit by having someone else do the gameplay and put the map through the foundry on his name ;)

...Well, we don't have a vanilla moon map either, and we're still making a moon map based on a futuristic war. So I for one would have no problem with a futuristic battle scene on the antarctic... really, anything goes, as long as I can put in some penguins ;)
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Postby denominator on Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:14 pm

I've been lurking in the various Foundry forums for quite some time, wanting to get my hands into it, but also wanting to avoid anything like Blitzaholic has with Clandemonium.

I've got a couple of ideas for it, but I must admit that I completely and utterly lack graphical skills. MS Paint will really be the best that I can do, but if that works for you then I'll give it a go.

natty, you've already got one idea from The Bison King, and sounds like a second coming from AoN. I'll try to get my idea done tonight or in the next couple of days, and then you'll have 3 choices to choose from. I'll commit to running with it all the way through as a true partnership if you choose my ideas. Ultimately though, as the artist, it's your map and your choice on which gameplay to go with.

Oh, and I haven't looked at e_i_pi's design so if mine looks like his it is entirely by accident. Don't want his idea biasing mine.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:38 pm

How about... a Futuristic Dystopia where Factions of Marauding Penguins are battling over the The Last Known Cold Spot on Earth.

"Global Meltdown: Penguins In Cold Sweat"


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Postby army of nobunaga on Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:18 pm

natty_dread wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:As for the map, if there is any difficulty figuring out the direction of the project, one could always do a futuristic Antarctica map, I see some fun potential for that...but I suppose it makes sense to get a vanilla Antarctica map first.


Mainly, I'm just hoping to bypass that pesky 2 map limit by having someone else do the gameplay and put the map through the foundry on his name ;)

...Well, we don't have a vanilla moon map either, and we're still making a moon map based on a futuristic war. So I for one would have no problem with a futuristic battle scene on the antarctic... really, anything goes, as long as I can put in some penguins ;)



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Postby The Bison King on Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:30 pm

I have some stuff Im gonna scan in america tomorrow and put in paint.net and touch up and send you.


No scanners in Mexico?

:lol: God!! that's so bad but you make it too easy :lol:
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Postby natty dread on Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:29 am

Oooh, lots of posts... I wish my other map threads were this popular ;)

denominator wrote:I've been lurking in the various Foundry forums for quite some time, wanting to get my hands into it, but also wanting to avoid anything like Blitzaholic has with Clandemonium.

I've got a couple of ideas for it, but I must admit that I completely and utterly lack graphical skills. MS Paint will really be the best that I can do, but if that works for you then I'll give it a go.


Of course. The gameplay plan does not need to be graphically advanced, it just needs to show all territory connections, bonus areas etc. By all means give it a shot!

natty, you've already got one idea from The Bison King, and sounds like a second coming from AoN. I'll try to get my idea done tonight or in the next couple of days, and then you'll have 3 choices to choose from. I'll commit to running with it all the way through as a true partnership if you choose my ideas. Ultimately though, as the artist, it's your map and your choice on which gameplay to go with.


Yeah. If I have difficulty in choosing I might even put them up for a poll... ;)

AndyDufresne wrote:How about... a Futuristic Dystopia where Factions of Marauding Penguins are battling over the The Last Known Cold Spot on Earth.

"Global Meltdown: Penguins In Cold Sweat"


Hmm.... Hmm... Hm. Anyone remember a 90:s something PC game called Worms? There were these worms with all kinds of weapons, each player had a team of 4 worms which you could control on their turn (it was turn based) and use the various weapons to shoot the opponent's worms. If we would replace the worms with penguins, the map could be filled with penguins with various weapons and each penguin with different weapons could attack the other penguins differently... eh...

Too weird?

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If it comes to that, you can send the papers to me by snail mail and I can scan them myself ;)
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Postby denominator on Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:26 am

natty_dread wrote:Hmm.... Hmm... Hm. Anyone remember a 90:s something PC game called Worms? There were these worms with all kinds of weapons, each player had a team of 4 worms which you could control on their turn (it was turn based) and use the various weapons to shoot the opponent's worms. If we would replace the worms with penguins, the map could be filled with penguins with various weapons and each penguin with different weapons could attack the other penguins differently... eh...

Too weird?


I still play Worms! Maybe not this map... but an different one!
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Postby natty dread on Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:36 am

The original Worms was an awesome game. I don't know about the sequels, I never played them much... but the original was a blast. I've heard the original is now available as a java application for mobile phones and such...

Yeah, I think it could make for an awesome map. The worms would have to be replaced with some other animals (like penguins, camels, cockroaches, snowmen or turtles) to avoid copyrights...
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Postby tzor on Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:38 am

AndyDufresne wrote:How about... a Futuristic Dystopia where Factions of Marauding Penguins are battling over the The Last Known Cold Spot on Earth.

"Global Meltdown: Penguins In Cold Sweat"


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I have an old image of Anarctica wich was I think based on land mass and sea level that showed what the land would like without the ice.

I was able to trace the image back to WIki.

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Rock surface of Antarctica and sea ground without its ice-shield, from 60 to 90 degrees South. This map does not consider that sea level would rise because of the melted ice, nor that the landmass would rise by several hundred meters over a few tens of thousands of years after the weight of the ice was no longer depressing the landmass.
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Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:13 pm

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Postby denominator on Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:44 pm

Okay, here's my first try. It's VERY rough as I have very little graphical experience and like you suggested, I did it in MS Paint:

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I haven't put any other territories in yet because I didn't want to waste the time figuring out where all the research stations and the like are if you don't like the premise. I've kept everything accurate so far (with the exception of my own little fictional story bits), and want to place research stations and the like in their proper geographical spots.

The basic premise is that the 8 starting points at the centre (the odd wheel-like thing) are survivors of a plane crash, and all 8 are trying to get off Antarctica before they perish. The Starting Points each get +2 auto-deploy per round, and players only start with one of these points (or more, if player count is <5, like in Feudal Epic). They cannot attack each other. All of the other territories will start neutral, with the counts varying depending on routes (again, this depends on research stations, etc.).

For an Objective win, players need to hold the GPS (so they know where to go), and one of the 4 "rescue points": South America, New Zealand, McMurdo Station, or Wilkins Runway (these can all change, they're just roughly what I came up with).

Since Das Schloss failed as an Objective-only map, I don't think CC will allow anyone to go that route again. So I'll need to have a territory that can bombard/kill the other starting points. I'm thinking some sort of weather station that can send a blizzard in on them, but that sounds rather hokey to me.

The Research Stations will grant bonuses, and will not be subject to troop decay like "normal" territories.

Let me know if you like the premise and I'll flesh it out a bit more. Otherwise I can scrap it and move on to idea #2.
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Re: Antarctic - let's do it! read here if interested

Postby natty dread on Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:01 pm

I like it. This is different from all the other objective conquest maps where you start from the sides and try to get to the center... it's the other way around. The idea is cool as well.

Since Das Schloss failed as an Objective-only map, I don't think CC will allow anyone to go that route again.


I don't see why it wouldn't be allowed. However such a concept doesn't seem to be very popular to the majority of the players... it seems people want to kill their opponents. So let's not go there anyway...

The objective you have sounds reasonable to me.

I'm thinking some sort of weather station that can send a blizzard in on them, but that sounds rather hokey to me.


Yeah it does... this part, you'll have to think on a bit more...

The Research Stations will grant bonuses, and will not be subject to troop decay like "normal" territories.

Let me know if you like the premise and I'll flesh it out a bit more. Otherwise I can scrap it and move on to idea #2.


I like that you used a part of my idea of where the bulk of territories have a decay. Anyway like I said, I do like the idea, but I still want to see what AON will come up with before I make my final decision.

(although, if you don't feel like putting all your eggs in one basket, you're still welcome to post as many ideas as you like ;) )
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