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Re: The King's Court

Postby Kabanellas on Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:40 pm

in most of cases I really don't have that much space.... :cry:
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Re: The King's Court

Postby Kabanellas on Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:04 pm

I don't think that we're going to have any problem when placing those 888.

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Re: The King's Court

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:43 pm

OK, it looks like the court is the biggest problem. What if the numbers alternate top to bottom?

But there needs to be some sort of resolution for this.
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Re: The King's Court

Postby natty dread on Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:53 pm

a.d. would be better than a-d and it should fit in all places.

Btw I like the 2nd font for the small version.
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Re: The King's Court

Postby mattattam on Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:03 pm

Kabanellas wrote:in most of cases I really don't have that much space.... :cry:


Yeah I thought it might be tight. What you can do is remove the word "army". It's redundant in most cases. I think you should keep the word army in the castle+knight column where it says, "1 army, 1 extra army for each 2 additional knights". But in the other places if you put +1 auto, or +1 auto-d that will fit in every spot and will be understood easier.
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Re: The King's Court

Postby Kabanellas on Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:29 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:OK, it looks like the court is the biggest problem. What if the numbers alternate top to bottom?

But there needs to be some sort of resolution for this.


yes, I suppose we could alternate them.... it will be a petty though. :(
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Re: The King's Court

Postby rockandrull on Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:18 pm

Try putting some space in between them.
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Re: The King's Court

Postby ender516 on Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:50 pm

Kabanellas wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:OK, it looks like the court is the biggest problem. What if the numbers alternate top to bottom?

But there needs to be some sort of resolution for this.


yes, I suppose we could alternate them.... it will be a petty though. :(

What if you flip the layout from rows to columns? That is, instead of having the king in the first row, the counsellors in the second, and the nobles in the third, put the king in a column at the left, the counsellors in a central column with their numbers still beneath them, and the nobles in a column on the right, again with their numbers beneath them but with the column staggered from the counsellors so that their numbers can run to the right without covering the numbers for the nobles.

And regarding region (territory) names, if you do just use N1 to N99, you will be better off with N01, N02, and so on. The drop down lists are better sorted that way, and doing it now avoids the rework that the Hive went through. (If you have more than 99, then start with N001.)
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Re: The King's Court

Postby Kabanellas on Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:59 am

ender516 wrote:What if you flip the layout from rows to columns? That is, instead of having the king in the first row, the counsellors in the second, and the nobles in the third, put the king in a column at the left, the counsellors in a central column with their numbers still beneath them, and the nobles in a column on the right, again with their numbers beneath them but with the column staggered from the counsellors so that their numbers can run to the right without covering the numbers for the nobles.


I couldn fit al the nobles in a column and I'd be losing the pyramid effect. I'll try to add a bit more of space between them....

ender516 wrote:And regarding region (territory) names, if you do just use N1 to N99, you will be better off with N01, N02, and so on. The drop down lists are better sorted that way, and doing it now avoids the rework that the Hive went through. (If you have more than 99, then start with N001.)


I was not aware of that. I'll ask chip if he prefers it that way, since he'll be doing the XML.
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Re: The King's Court

Postby Kabanellas on Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:02 am

I've added an extra pixel between army numbers. I think it could work now. This is the worst scenario, we'll rarely see those slots so full and all in the same colour.

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Re: The King's Court

Postby Kabanellas on Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:22 am

in this version I've also added 1 extra pixel below the numbers in the Nobles. I could also do it for the Council. It's definitely clearer now

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Re: The King's Court

Postby ender516 on Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:49 pm

I still worry that once the troop numbers in the court go to four digits (which is perhaps unlikely unless one is using the colour codes), the overlap will be annoying. What if the king were in the centre, the Counsellors formed a ring with four sectors around him, and the nobles formed a ring of eight sectors around that? With the sectors at various angles, overlap would be unlikely.

Hey, the whole court could be depicted as charges on a heraldic shield, hmm? Just throwing that out there.

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Re: The King's Court

Postby mattattam on Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:15 pm

Yeah I thought it might be tight. What you can do is remove the word "army". It's redundant in most cases. I think you should keep the word army in the castle+knight column where it says, "1 army, 1 extra army for each 2 additional knights". But in the other places if you put +1 auto, or +1 auto-d that will fit in every spot and will be understood easier.


What do you think about my suggestion Kabanellas?
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Re: The King's Court

Postby Kabanellas on Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:38 am

mattattam wrote:
Yeah I thought it might be tight. What you can do is remove the word "army". It's redundant in most cases. I think you should keep the word army in the castle+knight column where it says, "1 army, 1 extra army for each 2 additional knights". But in the other places if you put +1 auto, or +1 auto-d that will fit in every spot and will be understood easier.


What do you think about my suggestion Kabanellas?


I could do it - changing all '# armies a-d' for '# auto-d' but still not convinced that this is the best solution. I'd like to hear the opinion from more people concerning this issue.....
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Re: The King's Court

Postby Kabanellas on Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:59 am

ender516 wrote:I still worry that once the troop numbers in the court go to four digits (which is perhaps unlikely unless one is using the colour codes), the overlap will be annoying. What if the king were in the centre, the Counsellors formed a ring with four sectors around him, and the nobles formed a ring of eight sectors around that? With the sectors at various angles, overlap would be unlikely.

That will mess all the space for legend letters... I'd rather go for the alternate top to bottom number scheme.
Though that when that rare situation happens one could (and should) always play in the large map.


A wording suggestion for the Castle legend: "can 1w assault the governingfamily member"

'governing' sounds good :)

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