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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.5

Postby natty dread on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:24 pm

My bonus calculator gives these results:

Scotland 4,08
Ireland 5,58
Mann 1,66
Wales 3,91
Cornwall 2,92
Brittany 3,17
Galicia 3,67
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.5

Postby The Bison King on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:35 pm

My bonus calculator gives these results:

Scotland 4,08
Ireland 5,58
Mann 1,66
Wales 3,91
Cornwall 2,92
Brittany 3,17
Galicia 3,67


Interesting, the pretty much all seem to be around .50 points higher than where I put them. To me that says that we can either bump them all up one or leave them where they are. Given the small size of the map I'm inclined to say leave them, except maybe for Brittany. I think +2 is a good amount for it but my friends wanted to see it worth 3.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.5

Postby Evil DIMwit on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:57 pm

The Bison King wrote:Interesting, the pretty much all seem to be around .50 points higher than where I put them. To me that says that we can either bump them all up one or leave them where they are. Given the small size of the map I'm inclined to say leave them, except maybe for Brittany. I think +2 is a good amount for it but my friends wanted to see it worth 3.


Well, it's really up to you. I agree that rounding the bonuses down makes sense given the small size of the map.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.5

Postby The Bison King on Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:59 pm

Well, it's really up to you. I agree that rounding the bonuses down makes sense given the small size of the map.


Well then I agree with the current values.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.5

Postby Evil DIMwit on Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:15 am

Ah, the golden silence of implicit collective agreement. Congratulations.

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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.5

Postby isaiah40 on Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:16 am

Evil DIMwit wrote:Ah, the golden silence of implicit agreement. Congratulations.
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Congratulations! =D> =D> =D>
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.5

Postby The Bison King on Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:54 pm

:D Yay! I gotta tell you I'm glad to be in graphics. I think there's a lot that can be done here to highlight the Celtic feel of this map. The first thing (that I'm going to get on right away) is make the sea connections look pretty.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.6

Postby The Bison King on Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:02 pm

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There are the new sea connections. Tell me what you think. I also moved Stonehenge to be closer to it's actual location.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.6

Postby natty dread on Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:30 pm

Please fix the frame of the minimap. It's been really bothering me but I haven't said anything because we weren't in graphics...

The way the edge of the map shows through the frame... it just looks weird. Either make the frame solid or cut off the excess from the map...
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.6

Postby The Bison King on Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:50 pm

Please fix the frame of the minimap. It's been really bothering me but I haven't said anything because we weren't in graphics...

The way the edge of the map shows through the frame... it just looks weird. Either make the frame solid or cut off the excess from the map...


I've got an idea on how to fix that.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.6

Postby The Bison King on Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:11 pm

I've got an idea on how to fix that.

Like this:

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Also I added a border around the whole map.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.6

Postby natty dread on Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:47 pm

No, it doesn't really work... The map is still showing through the frame. Either remove that frame and only keep the simpler frame, or cut away the portions of the minimap that overlap with the frame...

Also there's a few small islands under the title that are missing their colour.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.6

Postby ender516 on Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:23 pm

I like the open ironwork look of the mini-map frame, but the amount of overlap is different on the sides as compared to the top and bottom. I prefer the sides, so I recommend clipping the map at top and bottom with a shorter gold frame.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.6

Postby mattattam on Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:50 pm

I like the dot connections. The color looks like throw-up green though lol. What about a darker blue color for the dot connections. Any darker color would give this a nice contrast.

The Ynysek syllan islands are not currently in the mini map. Also I don't remember what you are doing with the Giants causeway. It is not listed in the 1st post. Is it just a regular non-bonus territory?
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.8

Postby The Bison King on Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:51 pm

Lotta good changes on this one:
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I like the dot connections. The color looks like throw-up green though lol. What about a darker blue color for the dot connections. Any darker color would give this a nice contrast.


I tried that out what do you think?

Also I don't remember what you are doing with the Giants causeway. It is not listed in the 1st post. Is it just a regular non-bonus territory?


Yes.

No, it doesn't really work... The map is still showing through the frame. Either remove that frame and only keep the simpler frame, or cut away the portions of the minimap that overlap with the frame...

Fixed.

I also made a few things more visible. I changed Devon's name, and added a border around the whole map.

Keep the suggestions coming I have all day to work on this ;)
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.8

Postby natty dread on Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:21 pm

The frame looks a lot better now.

Perhaps you could try a slight stroke/outline on it though.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.9

Postby The Bison King on Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:01 pm

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Perhaps you could try a slight stroke/outline on it though.

uh, lika dis?

Also I added an effect separating the land from the sea. I'm not 100% on it but I think it helps.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.9

Postby mattattam on Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:42 am

I love the dots for the sea connections.

Another suggestion is to fool around with the "7 Nations" font in the top right to something with a more celtic feel.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.9

Postby natty dread on Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:28 am

The Bison King wrote:uh, lika dis?


Well I was thinking black but that works, too.

The Bison King wrote:Also I added an effect separating the land from the sea. I'm not 100% on it but I think it helps.


Yeah I'm not 100% either. The idea is good but the execution.... well, something just doesn't add up. Looks like you put a black glow around the land?
Try making the glow dark blue, then it will blend with the sea better.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.9

Postby The Bison King on Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:54 am

Try making the glow dark blue, then it will blend with the sea better.


It is blue. I'll mess with it though.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.9

Postby natty dread on Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:04 am

Also try making the land borders thicker. In some places (ireland) the land colour shows through on the wrong side of the outline...
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.9

Postby ender516 on Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:04 pm

Okay, having been invited by TBK via PM to do the XML (I love acronyms), here is version 1.0:

Celtic_7_Nations.1.0.xml

I have constructed this with chipv's Map XML Wizard and it seems self consistent, but something isn't right as far as the XML checker tool is concerned: the Test XML portion at the top reports no errors and no warnings, and under the Map Inspect portion below, the coordinates seem to be okay, but the text map and continents summary are blank. Any ideas what the problem is? Do I still have to delete a header from the Wizard output to suit the latest site requirements?
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.9

Postby natty dread on Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:19 pm

e. nvm
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.9

Postby natty dread on Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:35 pm

Here... I loaded your xml to visual studio, saved it again and now it works

http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/2/7/2 ... ns.1.0.xml
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations v1.9

Postby ender516 on Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:01 pm

Thanks, natty. The differences between your version and mine are the leading white space on line 15 where the name of the continent of Ireland is defined (which I presume is not the problem), and the encoding declaration on line 1 (which would appear to be the problem). In yours, it says
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

The odd thing about this is that the XML 1.0 Specification says that it should be in uppercase. However, this may explain why I was having problems using the "é". I guess I will check this out, and post a new version, perhaps with the accented e in place. Of course, that will mean our artist here will have to find a prettier way of putting that letter on the map. Maybe overlaying the accent character will do it, or just a stroke of a pen.
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