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Re: Celtic 7 Nations improved graphic, check it out!

Postby theBastard on Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:45 pm

The Bison King wrote:I'll have a new draft soon, I promise :wink:


maybe you could named territories by any old Celtic names. the map is from far past and some names sounds peliculiar to me...
but is is just me ;)
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby The Bison King on Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:05 am

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some of the territory names

added a mini map

connected Devon to Munster and Dyfed

maybe you could named territories by any old Celtic names. the map is from far past and some names sounds peliculiar to me...
but is is just me ;)


Yeah I've been looking for names in books. I found some older names for regions in Brittany and added them in this draft. I also changed some names in Scotland, but those will probably be changed again though... I'm, not particularly happy with the names in Scotland.

If you do, don't take your time to paint it. Give us a basic idea of the gameplay in a computer graphics thing before you go all out on graphics, save the effort for the workshop as we know you're proven in the graphics department.


Don't worry about that, I only need to paint it the one time. I painted each Island separately and pieced it together on the computer. I can make a lot of changes with out having to repaint anything. Also I stretched Scotland a little for you ;)
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby Sniper08 on Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:35 am

i think the mini is a bit too big and maybe you can shorten the distance between scotland and wales cause its looks way to big on the map.
Where you have munster is actually south leinster so maybe rename it to south leinster or wexford.

the map is looking good,good work and keep the updates coming :D .
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby theBastard on Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:36 am

the names looks much better now. I write here some more names, use them if you like them ;)

your names::: new ones::: why
-------------- ----------- -----
cork::: munster::: cork was established by Vikings much later
munster::: leinster::: leinster is more in this area as munster
limerick::: dal cais::: limerick was founded by Vikings.
leinster::: mide::: old kingdom
border country::: oriel::: old kingdom
ulster::: ulaid::: old name

highlands::: cait::: old pictish kingdom
aberdeen::: circinn::: old pictish kingdom
garmpain::: fortriu::: old pictish kingdom
strathclyde::: ystrad clud::: older name
edinburgh::: gododdin::: old brithonic kingdom

cardiff::: gwent::: cardiff is town, gwent is region´s name

isle of man::: mann::: old form of name

the rest looks good. here is only question if you will use english form or also celtic. I´m not sure about London - it was not so important at this era, maybe better could be have it also as celtic sea - London it is just crossing point...?
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations, Name Checking

Postby The Bison King on Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:49 pm

your names::: new ones::: why
-------------- ----------- -----
cork::: munster::: cork was established by Vikings much later
munster::: leinster::: leinster is more in this area as munster
limerick::: dal cais::: limerick was founded by Vikings.
leinster::: mide::: old kingdom
border country::: oriel::: old kingdom
ulster::: ulaid::: old name

highlands::: cait::: old pictish kingdom
aberdeen::: circinn::: old pictish kingdom
garmpain::: fortriu::: old pictish kingdom
strathclyde::: ystrad clud::: older name
edinburgh::: gododdin::: old brithonic kingdom

cardiff::: gwent::: cardiff is town, gwent is region´s name

isle of man::: mann::: old form of name


Thank you this is a big help!!! Sniper08 mentioned the Leinster thing as well so I'll make that change. Actually I'll probably make most all of these changes, especially in Scotland. I want to cross check theses before I drop them onto the map so I'm making a call for all Native Irishmen, Scotsmen, and Welshmen to check out these old names and make sure they fit. I just looked over the Scottish names and they all seem to fit (except it might make more sense to switch the location of Circinn and Fortiu) and they're all from the same era which is also good.

Oh yeah and...

I´m not sure about London - it was not so important at this era, maybe better could be have it also as celtic sea - London it is just crossing point...?


I read in a book that London was built over a druidic site of worship. Many of the old druid site remained until they were destroyed in WWII. I needed a crossing point across the land in Great Britain to connect Scotland, Cornwall, and Wales. It presented itself as a convenient option. Maybe as time goes on I'll be able to find the old Druid name for the site and be able to replace it with that.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby natty dread on Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:58 pm

Why is Stonehenge not on this map?
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby The Bison King on Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:05 pm

Why is Stonehenge not on this map?


hmmm #-o what if we were to change the London crossing point into Stonehenge instead? It would then make more sense as a +1 and they're *relatively* in the same place
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby natty dread on Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:10 pm

The stones of stonehenge would make for a nifty army circle too ;)
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations, Name Checking

Postby theBastard on Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:30 pm

The Bison King wrote:Thank you this is a big help!!! Sniper08 mentioned the Leinster thing as well so I'll make that change. Actually I'll probably make most all of these changes, especially in Scotland. I want to cross check theses before I drop them onto the map so I'm making a call for all Native Irishmen, Scotsmen, and Welshmen to check out these old names and make sure they fit. I just looked over the Scottish names and they all seem to fit (except it might make more sense to switch the location of Circinn and Fortiu) and they're all from the same era which is also good.


not at all. the problem is that I do not know from which era is map. better said map is from hundreds years so it is hard to find names from the same era...
I a little changed positions of Fortriu and Circinn because Fortriu was at Moray position.

The Bison King wrote:Oh yeah and...

I read in a book that London was built over a druidic site of worship. Many of the old druid site remained until they were destroyed in WWII. I needed a crossing point across the land in Great Britain to connect Scotland, Cornwall, and Wales. It presented itself as a convenient option. Maybe as time goes on I'll be able to find the old Druid name for the site and be able to replace it with that.


I did not mean that London is bad idea. just have it as Celtic sea - so not auto-deploy but killer neutral...

maybe Stonehenge would be better?
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby mattattam on Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:23 am

I like the new names :). The connection from devon to dyfed doesn't feel right to me. I think it would go better with devon connected to cardiff. Dyfed is right next to munster and I don't think it serves much of a purpose to have those two connected.

What if you connect devon to cardiff and have Londres connected to powys?
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby The Bison King on Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:36 am

I like the new names :). The connection from devon to dyfed doesn't feel right to me. I think it would go better with devon connected to cardiff. Dyfed is right next to munster and I don't think it serves much of a purpose to have those two connected.

What if you connect devon to cardiff and have Londres connected to powys?


It seems weird but I connected Devon to Dyfed because Cardiff is too close. There literally isn't enough room to draw in a connection :lol: Besides I can't have Devon connect to Cardiff and London connect to Powys because then you would have to defend every territory in wales, and that's something I want to avoid.


BTW, keep posting if you want because I'll be taking those things into consideration on my next draft but I probably won't get around to it until I get Thyseneal into the Final Forge.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby rockandrull on Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:39 am

This should be in the gameplay workshop!
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby mattattam on Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:36 pm

rockandrull wrote:This should be in the gameplay workshop!

They are reviewing it right now and it should be along shortly.

It seems weird but I connected Devon to Dyfed because Cardiff is too close. There literally isn't enough room to draw in a connection

I saw that. You could fit it if you started the connection a little farther to the left. There are two dips right there. Start it from the second one from the right and that could fit.
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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby TaCktiX on Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:51 am

Quick note: you call it Londres on the map and London in the bonus description. Pick one? ;)

But while you're picking, I'm going to shuttle this thing down the assembly line to the Gameplay Workshop.

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Re: Celtic 7 Nations New draft (with mini map!)

Postby The Bison King on Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:08 am

\:D/ Awesome! \:D/

you call it Londres on the map and London in the bonus description. Pick one? ;)


Actually I think I'll be calling it Stonehenge.

I shall celebrate by making a new draft tonight, or by Monday ;)
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