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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby Gillipig on Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:11 am

In the right corner of the map you've written a couple of territory labels that are not part of the playable map. I think Russia, Persia and Central Asia should stay, but not Burma and Siberia! They're a bit too far away to be included and it doesn't look good to have territory labels on the right side of the legend. Let that area of the map be a mystery :).

The sea route looks much clearer now btw.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby The Bison King on Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:21 am

Gillipig wrote:In the right corner of the map you've written a couple of territory labels that are not part of the playable map. I think Russia, Persia and Central Asia should stay, but not Burma and Siberia! They're a bit too far away to be included and it doesn't look good to have territory labels on the right side of the legend. Let that area of the map be a mystery :).

The sea route looks much clearer now btw.

I don't know, I mean I don't really feel like they're hurting anything. Most people probably won't even notice them until the 2nd or 3rd time they play the map.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby RedBaron0 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:48 pm

Looks like we're finally out of nitpicks ;)

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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby Gillipig on Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:04 am

=D> =D> Looking forward to be playing this on beta :)!
Regarding the subtle names I still feel the same. A bit distracting with Siberia and Burma. Don't feel like they need to be there and they certainly don't add anything to the map even if they don't subtract much either.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby natty dread on Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:23 am

Gillipig wrote:=D> =D> Looking forward to be playing this on beta :)!
Regarding the subtle names I still feel the same. A bit distracting with Siberia and Burma. Don't feel like they need to be there and they certainly don't add anything to the map even if they don't subtract much either.


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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby ender516 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:02 pm

I actually like those names. It was a tiny pleasant surprise to realize that India was completely masked by the legend. I have nothing against India, it was just a matter of recognizing the size and position of these places. Sort of "Well, what do you know about that?"
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby The Bison King on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:25 pm

RedBaron0 wrote:Looks like we're finally out of nitpicks ;)

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Hooray! feels good to be in the forge.


Ender516 last time I checked the XML it looked ready to be sent off for approval, do you agree?
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby Gillipig on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:37 pm

ender516 wrote:I actually like those names. It was a tiny pleasant surprise to realize that India was completely masked by the legend. I have nothing against India, it was just a matter of recognizing the size and position of these places. Sort of "Well, what do you know about that?"

I like the three west of the legend. The two east of the legend looks a little out of place though. I didn't realize India was covered at first either. Came as a little surprise :).
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby ender516 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:22 pm

The Bison King wrote:
RedBaron0 wrote:Looks like we're finally out of nitpicks ;)

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Ender516 last time I checked the XML it looked ready to be sent off for approval, do you agree?


I think we are ready to go. I posted a version here, and I don't think anything that has changed since then would affect the XML. So I think we can go with Colonial_Africa_2.4.xml.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby The Bison King on Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:23 pm

Sweet! ok XML submitted for approval.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby The Bison King on Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:59 am

Still awaiting XML stamp
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby The Bison King on Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:20 pm

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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby ender516 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:29 pm

It was kinda fun watching your avatar dance to that clip, TBK. Of course, playing this map would be better.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:47 pm

ender516 wrote:It was kinda fun watching your avatar dance to that clip, TBK. Of course, playing this map would be better.

Agreed.


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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby The Bison King on Thu May 03, 2012 9:02 pm

Ok it's been over a month now, since I submitted the XML for approval. I'm hoping I'll see a stamp in the next couple days.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby isaiah40 on Thu May 03, 2012 9:10 pm

The Bison King wrote:Ok it's been over a month now, since I submitted the XML for approval. I'm hoping I'll see a stamp in the next couple days.


Have patience, tnb80 has been extremely busy in Rl, and with natty not doing it anymore ...
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby vodean on Mon May 07, 2012 12:25 pm

i think this must be about the perfect resource for you. sorry about posting it so late in the process, but i think it should give you some inspiration and maybe help you make the map a little more historically accurate. it has many tribes, battles, and colonies, and shows their borders year by year. you may want to do it circa 1900, at which point things are mostly settled, or else do it circa 1870, before the scramble.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby ender516 on Mon May 07, 2012 10:36 pm

To what are you referring? I see no link.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby The Bison King on Tue May 08, 2012 2:21 am

Who knows...


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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue May 08, 2012 10:43 am

Thumbs up for this map.


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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby vodean on Wed May 09, 2012 4:00 pm

ender516 wrote:To what are you referring? I see no link.

:oops: soory, forgot the link.... thats strange... i copied, pasted, and then deleted it... :-s strange.
here it is


really good map otherwise!!!
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby The Bison King on Wed May 09, 2012 11:18 pm

vodean wrote:
ender516 wrote:To what are you referring? I see no link.

:oops: soory, forgot the link.... thats strange... i copied, pasted, and then deleted it... :-s strange.
here it is


really good map otherwise!!!

DUDE!!!!

That's really cool. Thank's for posting that.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby vodean on Fri May 11, 2012 2:50 pm

The Bison King wrote:
vodean wrote:
ender516 wrote:To what are you referring? I see no link.

:oops: soory, forgot the link.... thats strange... i copied, pasted, and then deleted it... :-s strange.
here it is


really good map otherwise!!!

DUDE!!!!

That's really cool. Thank's for posting that.

thank IB, but more importantly my awesome history teacher ;)
no problem. glad to help O:)
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby guttorm on Fri May 11, 2012 2:52 pm

just double-check what you see in that map. It has lots of errors.

It seems even universities have a problem understanding that the berlin conference was no treaty representing true political, military or economic control.

small example: Congo free state didn´t conquer Katanga/Garanganze until -91 but this map pretends CFS of -86 was almost as big as DRC which is completely ridiculous. Large parts were still unexplored and certainly not officially CFS.

..but I´ve seen much worse - lots of lies and propaganda in colonial maps that doesn´t reflect actual history.


the easiest thing is of course to skip forward a couple of decades and pretend that the european version of history is the correct one..
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,31, 12] Pg. 38

Postby vodean on Sat May 12, 2012 4:12 am

guttorm wrote:just double-check what you see in that map. It has lots of errors.

It seems even universities have a problem understanding that the berlin conference was no treaty representing true political, military or economic control.

small example: Congo free state didn´t conquer Katanga/Garanganze until -91 but this map pretends CFS of -86 was almost as big as DRC which is completely ridiculous. Large parts were still unexplored and certainly not officially CFS.

..but I´ve seen much worse - lots of lies and propaganda in colonial maps that doesn´t reflect actual history.


the easiest thing is of course to skip forward a couple of decades and pretend that the european version of history is the correct one..

really? the reason the BWAC was called was in part due to Belgian expansion in the CFS, and to decide how to "deal with" human rights violations... even if they were unexplored, they were technically CFS. If the CFS was not that large and threatening, the BWAC would not have been called. I have seen maps where in 1884 the CFS was almost the same size as the DRC... i dont think that you can reasonably say that this map or Brown are either misinformed or evil.

This map is:
a. incredibly detailed including battles and year-by-year expansion
b. accurate as far as any map possibly could be: there are conflicting historical accounts. Not just african vs. european, but conflicting european, and conflicting african accounts.

choose to think that this map is BS if you want, but its pretty damned accurate, and a great source.

Also, being that you are in sweden (or your IP records you as being there), you seem to be one of the evil racist white people you are complaining about so vehemently.
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