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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby iancanton on Mon May 28, 2012 2:31 am

congrats, tbk!

ian. :)
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby The Bison King on Wed May 30, 2012 11:10 pm

Thanks, I know there's a lot of maps in Beta right now, but I hope it's soon.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:50 pm

          Beta - Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Dark Continent Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into Full Play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

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While the map is in BETA Play, there are a couple of administrative tasks that are required of the mapmaker(s) in addition to the initial gameplay testing:
    1. Please ensure that the first post of the thread contains all the necessary information to help future visitors to the development thread; it's particularly important to ensure the most recent images are there, along with any helpful guides (such as gameplay quirks/nuances or the location/size of any starting neutrals etc.)
    2. Finally, it is the responsibility of the mapmaker(s) to ensure that they respond to further feedback in a timely and constructive manner.


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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby The Bison King on Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:10 pm

HEY HEY HEY!!!!

Now that's some good news!
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby cairnswk on Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:54 pm

congrats TBK :)
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby ender516 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:09 am

Three cheers! I can't wait for this to go live.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:50 am

Many congrats.


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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby VicFontaine on Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:00 pm

Having played 2 games already, I can only think of one thing you really should alter:

Change the border between Austo-Hungary and Italy by a couple milli-meters to ENSURE, BEYOND ANY SHADOW of a doubt, that no one gets the two confused. As currently stands, the Italian flag bleeds into Austro-Hungary.

It's such a minor fix for such major benefits, I suggest doing it. Should only take a second, right?

Really like the map: you should be proud.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby y2manypbr on Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:10 pm

Nice map!! i am color blind and review new maps and provide suggestions. there are different types of color blind problems so I do not speak as a final word. That being said, i like the legend, the map is easy to see, borders easy to identify, this map-from the point of color blind problems would be great to play.
Other than that, nice looking map, looks like fun!
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby The Bison King on Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:12 pm

VicFontaine wrote:Having played 2 games already, I can only think of one thing you really should alter:

Change the border between Austo-Hungary and Italy by a couple milli-meters to ENSURE, BEYOND ANY SHADOW of a doubt, that no one gets the two confused. As currently stands, the Italian flag bleeds into Austro-Hungary.

It's such a minor fix for such major benefits, I suggest doing it. Should only take a second, right?

Really like the map: you should be proud.

Noted, When and update is made I shall take this into consideration.

y2manypbr wrote:Nice map!! i am color blind and review new maps and provide suggestions. there are different types of color blind problems so I do not speak as a final word. That being said, i like the legend, the map is easy to see, borders easy to identify, this map-from the point of color blind problems would be great to play.
Other than that, nice looking map, looks like fun!

Glad to hear it thank you PBR
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby ender516 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:23 pm

Another solution to VicFontaine's problem would be to move the Italian flag and label south to the central part of the country and put the troop number in the north where the flag is now. A bit more work, perhaps, including a change of coordinates in the XML, but possibly a more esthetically and cartographically pleasing outcome.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby Gilligan on Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:04 am

Maybe this is just me, but I think Ottoman should be Ottoman Empire.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby ender516 on Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:16 pm

I'd like to think that it is just you. ;) I think that would be like marking the British Isles as the British Empire.
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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [5,14, 12] Pg. 41

Postby Gilligan on Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:58 pm

ender516 wrote:I'd like to think that it is just you. ;) I think that would be like marking the British Isles as the British Empire.


But the British Isles aren't normally called the British Empire. When referring to the country in that time, normally you hear Ottoman Empire.

It's not a big deal, just something I noticed.
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Re: Colonial Africa

Postby Armandolas on Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:15 am

Spain actually had a big influence in North Africa at that time.
They couldnt have any coloinies in africa due to the Tordesillas agreement with Portugal(an imaginary line in the Atlantic divided the world in 2, so Portugal had 1 half and Spain another half...thats why u speak portuguese in Brasil and Spanish in the rest of SA )
Back to Africa, Spain didnt have the so called colonies but it was dominant in north africa.Having the outposts like Melilla or Ceuta they make sure they could have a tremendous influence in all that area, not only commercial but also in the constant dispupts against Arab forces.
About the ottoman it makes sense to be in this map, as it played a big part in that area and had great influence in Europes disputes and religious conflicts.

Industrial Helix wrote:Well, if you're going for a historical map I'd highly recommend not fudging history. Spain didn't have much by way of African colonies due to a focus on both Americas, so cut it out.

One options for the mideast would be to make Turkey a colonial power and have its arabian areas as colonies. And I'm pretty sure Egypt went to the British around the 1870s, so if the theme is 1800s, you can pull it off.

The other major player missing from the map is the Netherlands, whos colonial efforts in South Africa have had effects lasting to this day.

What might be a more viable solution would be to portray Africa before the "scramble for Africa" took place. You could have various independent kingdoms in Africa, such as Morocco, Ethiopia, Zululand, Ashantiland, Tripoli, somewhat Egypt depending on how you look at it. Then you could have the Colonizers such as Britain, Portugal, Ottomans and France. Maybe throw Germany and Italy in there too. Then let the gameplay of the map determine how the scramble for Africa plays out, do the Africa natives hold their own, does Turkey meet with success in the Horn of Africa?
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