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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:21 pm

That was 7 January (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8447758.stm), it's called winter. All europe is in that way...(http://www.socialdust.com/images/neve-italia-2010.jpg)
Anyways, we can go back on topic before this thread becomes a weather forecast topic?

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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby The Bison King on Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:43 am

thenobodies80 wrote:That was 7 January (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8447758.stm), it's called winter. All europe is in that way...(http://www.socialdust.com/images/neve-italia-2010.jpg)
Anyways, we can go back on topic before this thread becomes a weather forecast topic?

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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:16 pm

Lol, don't you have territory names to fix, TBK? :P

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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby The Bison King on Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:10 am

Right right, I guess thats enough about the weather:

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Here's the changes I'm proposing

Richmond=>Napa Valley
Napa Valley=>Santa Rosa
Morro Bay=>Pismo Beach
Elderado=>Jackson(really not sure about that one if people have any suggestions for a better name there)
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby Vlasov on Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:43 am

The name changes look good to me.

I have a somewhat radical suggestion: How about switching the colors of the Central Valley and Sierra Nevada regions? The Central San Joaquin Valley is fertile and rich in agriculture, and might look better in Green.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:08 pm

TBK, could you post the small version (once you've figured out all the new territory names)? I may need to make coordinate adjustments.

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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby lostatlimbo on Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:35 pm

Vlasov wrote:The name changes look good to me.

I have a somewhat radical suggestion: How about switching the colors of the Central Valley and Sierra Nevada regions? The Central San Joaquin Valley is fertile and rich in agriculture, and might look better in Green.


Are you joking? You've never been to California, have you?

The San Joaquin Valley looks like this:
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The mountains of Sierra Nevada look like this:
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I've driven through both sections countless times and can say that, if the color of the regions are meant to represent the land at all, BK got it spot on.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby lostatlimbo on Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:04 pm

MrBenn wrote:Image

.... just saying....


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Never understood why there was so much resistance to this.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby lostatlimbo on Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:14 pm

The Bison King wrote:Right right, I guess thats enough about the weather:

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Here's the changes I'm proposing

Richmond=>Napa Valley
Napa Valley=>Santa Rosa
Morro Bay=>Pismo Beach
Elderado=>Jackson(really not sure about that one if people have any suggestions for a better name there)


FYI, the blue territory in the Bay Area legend still says Napa Valley instead of Santa Rosa.

Re: Jackson - what about San Andreas?
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=San+Andre ... =6&t=m&z=9

Stanislaus would be another option, as would Camanche. Both are prominent names in that area.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby forestwalker on Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:29 pm

Good looking map and represents my state well. I'd only suggest that Zzyzx is an EXTREMELY tiny and obscure place. How about Mojave, Joshua Tree, or Fort Irwin as the name for that region? (most of that area IS Fort Irwin, which is why it's a big blank on maps)
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby forestwalker on Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:29 pm

You might also consider Modoc instead of Lassen for the northeast corner territory. Mt. Lassen is well to the west of there. That area is both Modoc County and, geographically, the Modoc Plateau. Calling it Modoc would also be a nod to one of CA's native tribes.

Cascades would be a better descriptor for the neighboring territory than Mt. Shasta: describes the whole region rather than just one mountain that doesn't really dominate the area.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby Vlasov on Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:38 am

Reply to Lostatlimbo: Great photos! However, I would point out that those dry brown foothills in the second photo turn green in the winter and spring. Also, the cattle in the foreground of the photo are obviously grazing on something! The irrigated parts of the San Joaquin Valley, from Redding to Bakersfield, are in fact "green" most of the year -- and they produce fruits and nuts and vegetables for the entire nation, as well as grass and fodder for livestock.

But you are correct -- the forests of the Sierra Nevada are certainly "greener" than most of the valley, and most of it looks yellowish.

P.S. I have lived in the southern San Joaquin ("Central") Valley for over 30 years.

Note to Forestwalker: TBK's previous name for that tert was "No Name" -- I think "Zzyzx" represents the extreme, scattered, desolate places in that part of the Mojave Desert; plus it's a strikingly unusual name. However, your suggestion of Joshua Tree would be my second choice.

"Modoc" is also a good idea.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby forestwalker on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:34 pm

Well, sure, Zzyzx is a very cool name. But it's like calling the Gulf of Mexico "Drilling Platform #47;" it's extremely obscure and not representative of the region overall. And it'll elicit a lot of "wth is that?", even from 90% of Californians. If we're shooting for accuracy, of course, the area should probably be called Army's Playground, Methland, or Hell's Front Porch.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby Vlasov on Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:13 pm

LOL..... "Methland" certainly suggests something...
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby lostatlimbo on Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:31 pm

forestwalker wrote:Good looking map and represents my state well. I'd only suggest that Zzyzx is an EXTREMELY tiny and obscure place. How about Mojave, Joshua Tree, or Fort Irwin as the name for that region? (most of that area IS Fort Irwin, which is why it's a big blank on maps)


I tried fighting that battle early on. Good luck. :)
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby lostatlimbo on Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:36 pm

forestwalker wrote:Well, sure, Zzyzx is a very cool name. But it's like calling the Gulf of Mexico "Drilling Platform #47;" it's extremely obscure and not representative of the region overall. And it'll elicit a lot of "wth is that?", even from 90% of Californians. If we're shooting for accuracy, of course, the area should probably be called Army's Playground, Methland, or Hell's Front Porch.


LOL at Methland.

Fort Irwin would be ideal. Or China Lake.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby The Bison King on Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:15 pm

forestwalker wrote:You might also consider Modoc instead of Lassen for the northeast corner territory. Mt. Lassen is well to the west of there. That area is both Modoc County and, geographically, the Modoc Plateau. Calling it Modoc would also be a nod to one of CA's native tribes.

Cascades would be a better descriptor for the neighboring territory than Mt. Shasta: describes the whole region rather than just one mountain that doesn't really dominate the area.


Modoc sounds good, we can do that. I can do Cascades but I heard there are tribes of hippies that worship Mt. Shasta as a god. I thought that was really neat so I wanted to include Shasta as a territory.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby The Bison King on Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:48 pm

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Ok here's the (hopefully) final name changes

Jackson=San Andreas
Lassen=Modoc

I rearranged the type in San Andreas Victor so you are going to need to change the coordinate in that territory in the XML. Oh, and also Sacramento. I moved the city star down a little bit too,
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:30 pm

What do you have against Fort Irwin?
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby The Bison King on Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:28 pm

Bruceswar wrote:What do you have against Fort Irwin?

Nothing I just like ZZYZX more.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:31 pm

Dang, alright. The computer with the file on it is in the shop for the weekend. I should have it back by Monday afternoon-evening if all goes well.

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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby isaiah40 on Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:40 pm

The Bison King wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:What do you have against Fort Irwin?

Nothing I just like ZZYZX more.


Keep Zzyzx, sounds like someone sleeping at the wheel while driving through that part of California.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:42 pm

isaiah40 wrote:
The Bison King wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:What do you have against Fort Irwin?

Nothing I just like ZZYZX more.


Keep Zzyzx, sounds like someone sleeping at the wheel while driving through that part of California.

:lol: Or trying not to sleep, so they don't crash and die!

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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby ender516 on Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:05 am

I like that "Zzyzx" was invented in a blatant attempt to be alphabetically last.
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Re: California [24 Jun 2011] 5.3 Beta Files

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:07 am

ender516 wrote:I like that "Zzyzx" was invented in a blatant attempt to be alphabetically last.

Haha, I know, right? :)

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