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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby L M S on Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:19 pm

Oh no, don't tell Pander88uk about this....
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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:08 pm

I'd like to see something other than Europe. Fractured Russia was a pretty good idea, as was China. Or give Africa/South America/Asia some extra love in the Map Picker. ;)


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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby L M S on Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:41 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I'd like to see something other than Europe. Fractured Russia was a pretty good idea, as was China. Or give Africa/South America/Asia some extra love in the Map Picker. ;)


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'bout time there was a new middle east map as well, I'd say.
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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby isaiah40 on Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:25 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I'd like to see something other than Europe. Fractured Russia was a pretty good idea, as was China. Or give Africa/South America/Asia some extra love in the Map Picker. ;)


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Africa was going to be one of my next picks. Though we might need to go over the map limitations a little to make it work.
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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:25 pm

L M S wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:I'd like to see something other than Europe. Fractured Russia was a pretty good idea, as was China. Or give Africa/South America/Asia some extra love in the Map Picker. ;)


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'bout time there was a new middle east map as well, I'd say.


Fractured Middle East... no way... I can't believe it would ever happen.
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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:27 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:
L M S wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:I'd like to see something other than Europe. Fractured Russia was a pretty good idea, as was China. Or give Africa/South America/Asia some extra love in the Map Picker. ;)


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'bout time there was a new middle east map as well, I'd say.


Fractured Middle East... no way... I can't believe it would ever happen.



=D> =D> =D> :lol: :lol: :lol: OK really... 1 fractured map is enough... time for a new idea... So I vote no for this map idea.
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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby The Bison King on Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:28 pm

Sounds like a good idea but I'd say WAY more than 50-60 territories. I'm pretty sure Fractured America is near 90 or even over 100
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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby carlpgoodrich on Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:52 pm

No, please not another Europe map. PLEASE!!! And I agree with Bruceswar, one fractured map is good but two is just repetitive. There are soo many other cool ideas out there I would much rather see something different.
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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:03 pm

As read through few posts, I can easily see and understand everyone's ideas. I will be mulling this over for the next week until the poll is closed.

Meanwhile I have another idea brewing, so I probably will be starting a new thread somewhere over the rainbow. So stay tuned some here in this melting pot.
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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:46 pm

Okay so far the poll show that the majority of the people who voted want another Fractured map (this will be the last as 2 will really be enough). So I will be (am) working on a "Fractured China" as a few people have suggested. I will get a draft up sometime here in the next few days.
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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby 24Keyser on Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:52 pm

I Love Fractured America So I Say Go For It
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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby Industrial Helix on Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:19 pm

See, now that would be an interesting scenario given all the China is the world's upcoming leader talk that's been going around. Much better than another Europe map in my opinion... here's looking forward to a draft.
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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:01 am

Industrial Helix wrote:See, now that would be an interesting scenario given all the China is the world's upcoming leader talk that's been going around. Much better than another Europe map in my opinion... here's looking forward to a draft.

Cheers to a new Fractured map! *clinks glasses with Helix and isaiah*

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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby The Bison King on Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:03 pm

Fractured China? Sounds cool! I think that it should also include Mongolia as fractured America includes Mexico.
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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:58 pm

The Bison King wrote:Fractured China? Sounds cool! I think that it should also include Mongolia as fractured America includes Mexico.


Exactly what I was going to do along with a couple of other countries like Fractured America. ;)
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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:20 pm

I'm really looking forward to this---as this area needs more maps anyways!


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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby The Bison King on Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:04 pm

isaiah40 wrote:
The Bison King wrote:Fractured China? Sounds cool! I think that it should also include Mongolia as fractured America includes Mexico.


Exactly what I was going to do along with a couple of other countries like Fractured America. ;)

Korea? :-k
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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:38 pm

The Bison King wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:
The Bison King wrote:Fractured China? Sounds cool! I think that it should also include Mongolia as fractured America includes Mexico.


Exactly what I was going to do along with a couple of other countries like Fractured America. ;)

Korea? :-k


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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:54 pm

I want to see Manchuria retake their ancestral lands back from Russia... plus what they should have in China.
Greater mongolia? An independent Tibet. Perhaps India will get some of its forfeited land back. Hong Kong and the former treaty ports could form a confederation. Taiwan is... independent still. And of course, Japan ought to take a slice for herself as well.

Should be good, lots of potential for this map!
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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:24 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:I want to see Manchuria retake their ancestral lands back from Russia... plus what they should have in China.
Greater mongolia? An independent Tibet. Perhaps India will get some of its forfeited land back. Hong Kong and the former treaty ports could form a confederation. Taiwan is... independent still. And of course, Japan ought to take a slice for herself as well.

Should be good, lots of potential for this map!


Good ideas! Here is what I have so far with the map I'm working from. It's not complete yet, but I thought I would post this now. SO let me know.

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Re: Coming Soon: Fractured China!!

Postby The Bison King on Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:30 pm

isaiah40 wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:I want to see Manchuria retake their ancestral lands back from Russia... plus what they should have in China.
Greater mongolia? An independent Tibet. Perhaps India will get some of its forfeited land back. Hong Kong and the former treaty ports could form a confederation. Taiwan is... independent still. And of course, Japan ought to take a slice for herself as well.

Should be good, lots of potential for this map!


Good ideas! Here is what I have so far with the map I'm working from. It's not complete yet, but I thought I would post this now. SO let me know.

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Great start! I think inner China should be split up a lot more though.
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Re: Now Here: Fractured China V.1!!

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:35 pm

Oh it will be soon enough! I am going to have Vietnam take over a 2 or 3 territories from China, and maybe have Taiwan take over a couple as well (hey this is a futuristic map and I'm aloud to have some artistic license right!?).
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Re: Now Here: Fractured China V.1!!

Postby The Bison King on Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:37 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Oh it will be soon enough! I am going to have Vietnam take over a 2 or 3 territories from China, and maybe have Taiwan take over a couple as well (hey this is a futuristic map and I'm aloud to have some artistic license right!?).

Sweet. Yeah man, I'd say go crazy!
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Re: Now Here: Fractured China V.1!!

Postby 24Keyser on Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:13 pm

The Bison King wrote:
Fractured China? Sounds cool! I think that it should also include Mongolia as fractured America includes Mexico.


Exactly what I was going to do along with a couple of other countries like Fractured America.


i Say Add Taiwan North Korea And Mongolia Taking Over Large Parts Of China

I Also Suggest A Region Called Tibet
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Re: Now Here: Fractured China V.1!!

Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:36 pm

Well, I think Taiwan ought to stay Taiwan, personally. I mean, you want it rooted in some history and politics, right?

Bring in Manchuria, composed of Chifing, Hulanbur, Amur, Jilin and Liaoning.
Map and info... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchuria it looks like Korea and Manchuria would get into it over some land. Manchuria would be taking from Russia especially as well.

Korea... Make one Korea because without China NK is done for. Check out this ancient map:
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Part of Xizang ought to be Tibet at its current, supposed borders. They're not known for fighting... ever... so I don't see any expansion potential there.

China took a few small pieces of India back in the 70s I believe, Chinese Kashmir and something else. So i imagine India would take that back plus a little extra.
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I know the Cantonese are a separate language group, they encompass Guandong and Guanxi, but from what I understand, they've pretty much assimilated into Han China.

If vietnam took anything, it would be, maybe Hunan and Hainan. Traditionally, they've been more interested in grabbing Cambodia and Laos.

In China proper, the Han Chinese area, I'd say keep it whole. It's traditional China.

And again, i'd like to reiterate my enthusiasm for a sort of confederation or league of the former treaty ports... maybe through Shanghai in there as well.
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