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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:52 pm

yeah, you right...that is the real reason! :)
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Gilligan on Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:22 pm

I am absolutely stunned that I missed that many....
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Gilligan on Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:49 pm

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby perchorin on Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:05 pm

This map is just too dark--gives me a headache trying to read the words on it.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:57 am

The new xml is online, all borders should be ok now. :)
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby jaytorade on Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:52 pm

I think there really needs to be an arrow or other indication on the playing area of the map that Fujian and Taipai bombard each other. I didnt realize this just from the layout.

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby anamainiacks on Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:32 pm

The 'i' on Jiangxi and Shanghai are rather hard to see on the small map.

Also, not much of a problem, but Bangladesh could be more centralised on the small map. It looks like it could shift up and left a bit more (:
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby isaiah40 on Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:08 am

jaytorade wrote:I think there really needs to be an arrow or other indication on the playing area of the map that Fujian and Taipai bombard each other. I didnt realize this just from the layout.

Thanks, Jaytorade


You mean like here?
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anamainiacks wrote:The 'i' on Jiangxi and Shanghai are rather hard to see on the small map.

Also, not much of a problem, but Bangladesh could be more centralised on the small map. It looks like it could shift up and left a bit more (:

So you can read them right? Can you please explain what you mean by "more centralised"?
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:23 am

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jaytorade wrote:I think there really needs to be an arrow or other indication on the playing area of the map that Fujian and Taipai bombard each other. I didnt realize this just from the layout.

Thanks, Jaytorade


You mean like here?
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No, I think me meant have an actual arrow on the map (like I suggested I while back :P ) to make the bombardment more obvious.

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby isaiah40 on Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:52 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:No, I think me meant have an actual arrow on the map (like I suggested I while back :P ) to make the bombardment more obvious.

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The problem with that is then people would think that they can attack between the two. But let me see what I can do, I would have to squeeze it in the legend without shrinking the text any.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby anamainiacks on Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:19 am

isaiah40 wrote:
anamainiacks wrote:The 'i' on Jiangxi and Shanghai are rather hard to see on the small map.

Also, not much of a problem, but Bangladesh could be more centralised on the small map. It looks like it could shift up and left a bit more (:

So you can read them right? Can you please explain what you mean by "more centralised"?

No I can't read them, if not I wouldn't be raising it up as a point to help this map improve right? I only know they're there because I know what these places are called in real life, and so squint to search for them.

By 'more centralised' I mean that there could be an equal amount of space before and after the territory name, between the name and the territory border. Like, the 'h' is really close to the bottom right border, while there's lots of room between the 'B' and the top border (:
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:02 pm

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Victor Sullivan wrote:No, I think me meant have an actual arrow on the map (like I suggested I while back :P ) to make the bombardment more obvious.

-Sully
The problem with that is then people would think that they can attack between the two. But let me see what I can do, I would have to squeeze it in the legend without shrinking the text any.


I didn't even see this small element of gameplay, I don't think it has come into play in any of my games. Perhaps instead of arrows, a small little icon of some sort? Or even a Chinese character of something that translates into bombard could work.

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:33 am

isaiah40 wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:No, I think me meant have an actual arrow on the map (like I suggested I while back :P ) to make the bombardment more obvious.

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The problem with that is then people would think that they can attack between the two. But let me see what I can do, I would have to squeeze it in the legend without shrinking the text any.

Well, you could change the color of the arrow.


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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:58 am

I'll be making the small change to denote the bombardment on the playable area and the legend here shortly.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:04 pm

not read doesn't seem a good reason to me to change a written thing / add other icons.... :-k
I mean if now write things is not enough, what's the next?
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:07 pm

Well, the idea is to make the map as player-friendly as possible, yes?

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:18 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Well, the idea is to make the map as player-friendly as possible, yes?

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Look Berlin 1961.
This map is user-friendly as it is now.
We have to write things, not write an encyclopedia just because people is too lazy to read on the map.

if things are written, then is up to people read them.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:21 pm

After looking at this, and looking at Poland and Berlin, I think I will leave the map as it is. Both Poland and Berlin have the bombardments written down only.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Gilligan on Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:56 pm

Same with Waterloo and such.
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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby Halmir on Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:34 pm

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Industrial Helix wrote:Fractured Europe... you mean a topsy-turvey world where Europe is broken into several countries, each ruled by some various party ranging from nazi to monarchy to democracy to communist? It's called the History of Europe since the fall of Rome. I think Europe is already quite fractured and I dunno how easy of a sell this is going to be... what about picking on the USA's great rival Russia... oh-wait... The UK would make a good fractured addition though. My advice is to pick something that isn't already broken up.

On the whole I'd side with IH here...

England has always struggled with Europe - we're in it, but see ourselves as very separate from it. Personally, I would think that very few Brits have a great affinity with Europe and the EU, and as for the rest of Europe, I think it depends on politics much more than any great desire for Continental Unity. Indeed, some of the fiercest rivalrys are held amongst neighbouring states/nations.


The easy way of doing this (with a nod to history) is to look at Britain post Roman but pre Arthur - a whole bunch of warring Baronial states. It doens't take much imagination to see everyone reverting to that after some calamity! Plus you could add in raiding Vikings, Saxons etc.

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:52 pm

Halmir wrote:
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Industrial Helix wrote:Fractured Europe... you mean a topsy-turvey world where Europe is broken into several countries, each ruled by some various party ranging from nazi to monarchy to democracy to communist? It's called the History of Europe since the fall of Rome. I think Europe is already quite fractured and I dunno how easy of a sell this is going to be... what about picking on the USA's great rival Russia... oh-wait... The UK would make a good fractured addition though. My advice is to pick something that isn't already broken up.

On the whole I'd side with IH here...

England has always struggled with Europe - we're in it, but see ourselves as very separate from it. Personally, I would think that very few Brits have a great affinity with Europe and the EU, and as for the rest of Europe, I think it depends on politics much more than any great desire for Continental Unity. Indeed, some of the fiercest rivalrys are held amongst neighbouring states/nations.


The easy way of doing this (with a nod to history) is to look at Britain post Roman but pre Arthur - a whole bunch of warring Baronial states. It doens't take much imagination to see everyone reverting to that after some calamity! Plus you could add in raiding Vikings, Saxons etc.

PS loving the series, keep up the good work!!

First, whoa. That discussion was from, like, ages ago.

Second, I saw your editing reason, lil missy! [-X

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby chuck_thunder on Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:02 am

I love the look of this map. After playing a bit, i think the capital bonus are a bit unbalanced. Perhaps 1, 3, 6, 9 troops would be better.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:49 am

chuck_thunder wrote:I love the look of this map. After playing a bit, i think the capital bonus are a bit unbalanced. Perhaps 1, 3, 6, 9 troops would be better.


I'm not sure they are imbalanced, but in the games I've played, they've been a target by everyone at some point, since they add some nice extra troops.


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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:38 am

chuck_thunder wrote:I love the look of this map. After playing a bit, i think the capital bonus are a bit unbalanced. Perhaps 1, 3, 6, 9 troops would be better.


I had something like that originally, and in my Fractured America map. It was brought up that those bonuses made the capitals not attractive enough and thereby they weren't used. Now with the bonuses as they are they are being used, but I don't find them unbalanced, or make the game unbalanced. You are spread out so you have to place those men wisely to stay in the game.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:34 am

The legend is hard to read. Maybe a slight font change would make it much easier to read? Otherwise nice map.
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