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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:07 pm

Well, the idea is to make the map as player-friendly as possible, yes?

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:18 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Well, the idea is to make the map as player-friendly as possible, yes?

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Look Berlin 1961.
This map is user-friendly as it is now.
We have to write things, not write an encyclopedia just because people is too lazy to read on the map.

if things are written, then is up to people read them.

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:21 pm

After looking at this, and looking at Poland and Berlin, I think I will leave the map as it is. Both Poland and Berlin have the bombardments written down only.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Gilligan on Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:56 pm

Same with Waterloo and such.
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Re: Fractured Europe??

Postby Halmir on Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:34 pm

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Industrial Helix wrote:Fractured Europe... you mean a topsy-turvey world where Europe is broken into several countries, each ruled by some various party ranging from nazi to monarchy to democracy to communist? It's called the History of Europe since the fall of Rome. I think Europe is already quite fractured and I dunno how easy of a sell this is going to be... what about picking on the USA's great rival Russia... oh-wait... The UK would make a good fractured addition though. My advice is to pick something that isn't already broken up.

On the whole I'd side with IH here...

England has always struggled with Europe - we're in it, but see ourselves as very separate from it. Personally, I would think that very few Brits have a great affinity with Europe and the EU, and as for the rest of Europe, I think it depends on politics much more than any great desire for Continental Unity. Indeed, some of the fiercest rivalrys are held amongst neighbouring states/nations.


The easy way of doing this (with a nod to history) is to look at Britain post Roman but pre Arthur - a whole bunch of warring Baronial states. It doens't take much imagination to see everyone reverting to that after some calamity! Plus you could add in raiding Vikings, Saxons etc.

PS loving the series, keep up the good work!!
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:52 pm

Halmir wrote:
MrBenn wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:Fractured Europe... you mean a topsy-turvey world where Europe is broken into several countries, each ruled by some various party ranging from nazi to monarchy to democracy to communist? It's called the History of Europe since the fall of Rome. I think Europe is already quite fractured and I dunno how easy of a sell this is going to be... what about picking on the USA's great rival Russia... oh-wait... The UK would make a good fractured addition though. My advice is to pick something that isn't already broken up.

On the whole I'd side with IH here...

England has always struggled with Europe - we're in it, but see ourselves as very separate from it. Personally, I would think that very few Brits have a great affinity with Europe and the EU, and as for the rest of Europe, I think it depends on politics much more than any great desire for Continental Unity. Indeed, some of the fiercest rivalrys are held amongst neighbouring states/nations.


The easy way of doing this (with a nod to history) is to look at Britain post Roman but pre Arthur - a whole bunch of warring Baronial states. It doens't take much imagination to see everyone reverting to that after some calamity! Plus you could add in raiding Vikings, Saxons etc.

PS loving the series, keep up the good work!!

First, whoa. That discussion was from, like, ages ago.

Second, I saw your editing reason, lil missy! [-X

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby chuck_thunder on Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:02 am

I love the look of this map. After playing a bit, i think the capital bonus are a bit unbalanced. Perhaps 1, 3, 6, 9 troops would be better.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:49 am

chuck_thunder wrote:I love the look of this map. After playing a bit, i think the capital bonus are a bit unbalanced. Perhaps 1, 3, 6, 9 troops would be better.


I'm not sure they are imbalanced, but in the games I've played, they've been a target by everyone at some point, since they add some nice extra troops.


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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:38 am

chuck_thunder wrote:I love the look of this map. After playing a bit, i think the capital bonus are a bit unbalanced. Perhaps 1, 3, 6, 9 troops would be better.


I had something like that originally, and in my Fractured America map. It was brought up that those bonuses made the capitals not attractive enough and thereby they weren't used. Now with the bonuses as they are they are being used, but I don't find them unbalanced, or make the game unbalanced. You are spread out so you have to place those men wisely to stay in the game.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:34 am

The legend is hard to read. Maybe a slight font change would make it much easier to read? Otherwise nice map.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Gillipig on Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:26 am

I'd suggest you make the capitals 3 neutrals instead of 2. As it is now it's all about capitals and very little about the other bonuses.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby CJ Lues on Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:21 am

Hey guys!

Its a nice map! me and my team are playing it at the moment, i love the graphics!

Just one thing... i placed a nice big stack on Hunan, but i can't attack anywhere with it...! :-s

Will someone plz look into it...

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:20 am

CJ Lues wrote:Hey guys!

Its a nice map! me and my team are playing it at the moment, i love the graphics!

Just one thing... i placed a nice big stack on Hunan, but i can't attack anywhere with it...! :-s

Will someone plz look into it...

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby CJ Lues on Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:03 am

isaiah40 wrote:
CJ Lues wrote:Hey guys!

Its a nice map! me and my team are playing it at the moment, i love the graphics!

Just one thing... i placed a nice big stack on Hunan, but i can't attack anywhere with it...! :-s

Will someone plz look into it...

Regards,
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Game number?


sorry its my mistake...! its al sorted out...! ;)
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:09 pm

Bruceswar wrote:The legend is hard to read. Maybe a slight font change would make it much easier to read? Otherwise nice map.

Well everyone was happy with the font. I did try a whole bunch of other oriental fonts, but this one is much clearer and easier to read. I'll have to wait and see if anyone else has the same problem with it.

Gillipig wrote:I'd suggest you make the capitals 3 neutrals instead of 2. As it is now it's all about capitals and very little about the other bonuses.

I'm not opposed to changing them, but let's wait and see if anyone has complaints about them.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:42 pm

I 100% believe the capitals should be neutral 2. I am actually quite impressed that they are used so much in games and I think it works really well (I would say the same about California's cities). Adjusting them to neutral 3's risk their being ignored for the most part.

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby CJ Lues on Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:38 pm

isaiah40 wrote:
Gillipig wrote:I'd suggest you make the capitals 3 neutrals instead of 2. As it is now it's all about capitals and very little about the other bonuses.

I'm not opposed to changing them, but let's wait and see if anyone has complaints about them.


To be honest i like it the way it is now...! I don't see a problem with it being about the capitals... ;)

Good job Isaiah! =D>
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby The Bison King on Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:45 pm

A++++

This is one of my new favorites. This get's the Bison King Seal of approval.
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:20 pm

This gets my seal of approval, too:

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:16 am

I like the capitals as they are. Small games they are not ignored but taken as opportunity arises and in large games, they are the easier bonus to grab. Leave them as they are.

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby The Bison King on Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:48 pm

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Though if I had one suggestion at this point it would be to lower the value of the Russian Federation bonus
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:15 pm

The Bison King wrote:Though if I had one suggestion at this point it would be to lower the value of the Russian Federation bonus

Yes, I think the Russian Federation could be lowered 1, and the Han bonus increased 1.

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:18 pm

Anybody else think this way? Speak now or forever hold your peace! :lol:
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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:21 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Anybody else think this way? Speak now or forever hold your peace! :lol:

Scratch the Han thing. I decided against it.

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Re: Fractured China - NOW LIVE!!!

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:28 am

isaiah40 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:The legend is hard to read. Maybe a slight font change would make it much easier to read? Otherwise nice map.

Well everyone was happy with the font. I did try a whole bunch of other oriental fonts, but this one is much clearer and easier to read. I'll have to wait and see if anyone else has the same problem with it.

Gillipig wrote:I'd suggest you make the capitals 3 neutrals instead of 2. As it is now it's all about capitals and very little about the other bonuses.

I'm not opposed to changing them, but let's wait and see if anyone has complaints about them.



Maybe it is only me about the legend... or maybe others are just not posting?
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