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by **isaiah40** on Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:06 pm

MrBenn wrote:You could then amend the name of the circum-caribbean bonus on the legend of the North American portion of the map to "Indies", and give it a bonus of 3 or 4?

Now this is a good idea!!

by **natty dread** on Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:49 pm

Are you suggesting adding a territory? Because 128 won't work with 4 player games...

by **isaiah40** on Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:33 pm

natty_dread wrote:Are you suggesting adding a territory? Because 128 won't work with 4 player games...

No, MrBenn was suggesting on adding a bonus with the territories already there.

by **Tisha** on Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:18 pm

I'm not sure how I would group them together.. I feel like they need to be on N. Americas paper.. but they won't fit
I'm getting am Idea, jusst a minute.

also, I'm not a writer, and can't put words together to make the legend about 1 for every 4 letter like ..

by **laughingcavalier** on Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:37 pm

Looking good.
I think if the islands on the southern map sheet were the same colour as the northern islands, it wouldn't matter that they are on a different sheet, in fact it might help to make the two sheets look more together.
I'm also not sure you want to change the bonus name to "indies" - one of the strengths of this map is it draws on pre-colonial days & the more colonial language you put in the less it is "first nations."
And "Circum-Caribbean" works well with the region name "Carib" as part of that bonus.

by **keiths31** on Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:03 pm

I don't know much about map making or gameplay...but this map looks like it would be epic.

by **Tisha** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:29 am

what about something like:

It's not finished, but it's an idea

Click image to enlarge.

by **MarshalNey** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:59 am

Elegant, thematic touch- I like it. Are you going to make the Indies a single bonus?

by **Tisha** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:13 am

MarshalNey wrote:Elegant, thematic touch- I like it. Are you going to make the Indies a single bonus?

yeah, worth three

what do you think about the other bonuses?

n. amazon should probably change
what about N. and S. Meso-America?

3 for all of those?

by **MarshalNey** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:35 am

I think these two are fairly straightforward as there are good +2 example bonus areas to compare with and a +3 bonus area (5 regions, 4 borders)-

Carribean: +3
N.Amazon: +3 (down from +4)

As for N.Meso-America, nothing has changed really, and with only 4 regions and 3 borders it looks like the map standard is clearly at +2. Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible, I'm thinking:

N.Meso-America: +2 (unchanged)

For S.Meso-Amercia, it is sort of in a 'gray-area' as far as the overall bonus bias (baseline) is concerned. At 5 regions and 3 borders, it is unique. No other +2 bonus has 5 regions. I'm thinking in light of this:

S.Meso-America: +3 (up from +2)

Marshal Ney

by **Tisha** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:02 pm

anything else?

Click image to enlarge.

by **MarshalNey** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:12 pm

I sent out the Map Surveyors bulletin tonight, if nobody notices anything within the next 2 or 3 days, I'll stamp it. Good work!

Marshal Ney

by **MadagascarAdam** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:40 pm

Wow, beautiful! Can't wait to start playing it! I love big maps like this, too!

by **ghirrindin** on Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:13 am

laughingcavalier wrote:Looking good.
I think if the islands on the southern map sheet were the same colour as the northern islands, it wouldn't matter that they are on a different sheet, in fact it might help to make the two sheets look more together.
I'm also not sure you want to change the bonus name to "indies" - one of the strengths of this map is it draws on pre-colonial days & the more colonial language you put in the less it is "first nations."
And "Circum-Caribbean" works well with the region name "Carib" as part of that bonus.

Well.. the term "First Nations" itself bespeaks of Aboriginal sovereign assertions under the Canadian settler state, a distinctly post-contact development. Your point is well taken, however, as Tisha has carefully deployed indigenous signifiers on both maps, a project I suspect directly relates to the title of the map itself. Curiously enough however, as the map does gesture towards a Pre-Columbian past (not entirely, though, since we have the Seminoles), it seem peculiar that the cartographer chose an image with a Native on a horse.

The mapmaker is studied, but irregularities will always persist. Bonus names and thematic elements are her prerogative, I say.

The map is utterly gorgeous. Simply cannot wait to play.