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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:07 am

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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby Woodruff on Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:55 pm

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Woodruff wrote:I have to say, this may well be the most unreadable map on the site. I'm really quite surprised that the Foundry has released this one. The color schemes are VERY difficult for someone with shade blindness issues like me. Just really awful. Sorry not to be more positive about it.


Lackattack compresses the map images into 80% JPEG:s, and due to the way JPEG:s are compressed, the compression causes a certain amount of loss of colour saturation. Meaning that the colours will look more washed out than originally. I've tried to ask lackattack to let mapmakers handle the compression themselves, so they could at least compensate for the loss of colour on map images, which would be tremendously useful for this map. I think you can guess the reply I received.

Anyhow, I will try to improve the colours in the next update, but since lackattack uses a different software to perform the compression than what I have, I can't see how exactly it will turn out... so it's not an exact science.


Even just making them less pastel would help.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby HighlanderAttack on Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:49 am

I am not sure what changes so much from the imbalance that you said but I have been in some fantastic 1v1 games of late. I don't know all the bonuses or too much of the map yet but the competitive balance has been super fantastic so kudos to you
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:52 pm

The map was updated. :)

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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:17 pm

Well, the colours turned out pretty ok I think. Let's hope everyone else is satisfied with them as well.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:40 am

Last Call

If anyone has any other comments on tweaking the gameplay/graphics, now is the time to speak up! If there are no other concerns within the next couple of days, this map will be quenched.

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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby EagleByRob on Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:48 pm

I like it as is! :D
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby 1stSplatter on Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:42 pm

It looks very sexy. Korea's been waiting a long time for a map.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:59 am

It has been pointed out to me that Donghuyeo should be spelled Dongbuyeo... I'll get that corrected when I have the chance.

Meanwhile, if anyone who knows Korean can see any other glaring spelling errors, please post now, I don't want to make multiple updates just for spelling...
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby perchorin on Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:02 am

natty_dread wrote:It has been pointed out to me that Donghuyeo should be spelled Dongbuyeo... I'll get that corrected when I have the chance.

Meanwhile, if anyone who knows Korean can see any other glaring spelling errors, please post now, I don't want to make multiple updates just for spelling...

I'll have another look right now. Dongbuyeo is unfamiliar to me.
edit: it all looks good to me!
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:09 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongbuyeo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukbuyeo#Dongbuyeo

Apparently Dongbuyeo would translate to "East Buyeo" which makes sense to me. "Donghuyeo" didn't bring any search results on google, so I have to assume Dongbuyeo is the correct sp.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby perchorin on Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:19 am

natty_dread wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongbuyeo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukbuyeo#Dongbuyeo

Apparently Dongbuyeo would translate to "East Buyeo" which makes sense to me. "Donghuyeo" didn't bring any search results on google, so I have to assume Dongbuyeo is the correct sp.

Yeah Dongbuyeo definitely sounds better. I wasn't even disputing that but everything else really looks ok ;)
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby grunion on Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:19 pm

I vote no. I'm still not happy with the legend, which is unclear and cryptic, and the colors and territories - it all looks like shades of greyish brown to me. Maps should be playable without Bob, don't you think?

Anyway, it's clear that I'm in the minority (at least vocal-wise) so as long as that's the case I'll shut up about it. I just think it's a shame that now that Korea finally gets a map it is one that I won't be able to play.

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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby Fudoh on Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:05 am

maybe this has been mentioned and explained already, but why is there chinese characters on a korean map, shouldn't korean characters be used instead?
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:37 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangul

Hangul,[nb 1] the Korean alphabet, is the native alphabet of the Korean language. It is a separate script from Hanja, the logographic Chinese characters which are also sometimes used to write Korean. It was created in the mid-15th century, and is now the official script of both North Korea and South Korea and is co-official in the Yanbian Korean Autonomous Prefecture of Jilin Province, People's Republic of China.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby turtlerobot on Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:20 pm

The color is drab and it's hard to read the map.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:50 pm

mmm...it seems that I wasn't wrong when in april/june I said you that colors were are a problem. :-k
At that time you replied to me (and to others) that there wasn't a way to fix it, that was because the style of the map , etc etc and that you checked the map with colorblind filters. I decided to wait at that time...but now in beta some people is complaining again about the same thing (and you know i said you via PM that your colors are too washed imo)....anyways you have to find a way to fix it now. Fix it (and the name to change) and I'll be happy to quench this one. O:)

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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:03 am

Ok, how about you just take the map offline and substract me one medal or whatever.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby gimil on Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:07 am

natty_dread wrote:Ok, how about you just take the map offline and substract me one medal or whatever.


Come on natty, You have come this far. There is always a fix, you just need to find it.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:11 am

gimil wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Ok, how about you just take the map offline and substract me one medal or whatever.


Come on natty, You have come this far. There is always a fix, you just need to find it.


I don't currently have the time to redraw the map, so if the current image is not good enough I'm afraid there's no choice but to scrap it.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:15 am

natty_dread wrote:I don't currently have the time to redraw the map, so if the current image is not good enough I'm afraid there's no choice but to scrap it.


If you do not have the time now, can it not come out of beta till you do have the time to do it. Not sure how the foundry works in this situation. It would be a real shame if we lost this. I just love looking at it.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby DiM on Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:25 am

i'm not sure how natty made the image but i'm guessing it might be a very easy fix. simply take away the dark background and replace it with a lighter one.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:26 pm

DiM wrote:i'm not sure how natty made the image but i'm guessing it might be a very easy fix.


You'd guess wrong.

simply take away the dark background and replace it with a lighter one.


Nope, that won't cut it.

The thing is, as long as I don't have the possibility to compress my own JPEG:s, I have no way of knowing how the image that ends up on the site will look like. So I'm expected to blindly balance the colours of the image so that both normal-sighted and colourblind people won't have any problems with it. Sorry but that's impossible to do.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby DiM on Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:00 pm

natty_dread wrote:The thing is, as long as I don't have the possibility to compress my own JPEG:s, I have no way of knowing how the image that ends up on the site will look like. So I'm expected to blindly balance the colours of the image so that both normal-sighted and colourblind people won't have any problems with it. Sorry but that's impossible to do.


jpg compression has nothing to do with the current problem of the map. the colours are washed out even on the png.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea [15.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:24 pm

DiM wrote:
natty_dread wrote:The thing is, as long as I don't have the possibility to compress my own JPEG:s, I have no way of knowing how the image that ends up on the site will look like. So I'm expected to blindly balance the colours of the image so that both normal-sighted and colourblind people won't have any problems with it. Sorry but that's impossible to do.


jpg compression has nothing to do with the current problem of the map. the colours are washed out even on the png.


Which png are you looking at? The first post isn't up to date.
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