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by **isaiah40** on Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:01 am

Okay you two, you need to stop this immediately. This bickering and arguing is not doing anyone any good. The only thing it is doing is making BOTH of you look bad so much so that others will not want to deal with either of you period. This also means people won't want to comment in your maps because they will think that you will just argue about everything. So please get this stopped now.

by **thenobodies80** on Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:02 am

1. I don't use cheap monitors or the like, if there's something where I "waste" tons of money are computer components.
2. I don't see the reason for all this mess, so guys, please chill down BOTH. I never said you're stupid or something like that, so don't put in my mouth words I've not used. I think you're a bit stressed natty...
3. Now, could you please respond to my question, that was really precise. Did you worked on the junks colors?
If the answer is yes, then I'll send the file to lackattck....if not, please do it.(red/teal)

Now please stay on topic.

by **natty dread** on Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:19 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:3. Now, could you please respond to my question, that was really precise. Did you worked on the junks colors?
If the answer is yes, then I'll send the file to lackattck....if not, please do it.(red/teal)

Well, how about you look at the images and figure out if the junk colours are good enough for you? I mean, I don't want to redo this a couple of weeks from now.

by **thenobodies80** on Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:07 pm

These files were sent to lackattack:

Large Version: http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4477/korea28.png
Small Version: http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/790/korea28s.png
XML: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/download/file.php?id=290

In any case, even if they are good for me, it doesn't mean they are good for the community....you must wait for their feedback, not mine.

by **thenobodies80** on Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:19 pm

The new files are online.

by **natty dread** on Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:32 pm

And this is how they look as jpegs:

Click image to enlarge.

vs. original:

Click image to enlarge.

by **natty dread** on Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:54 am

Is everyone ok with the map now? Can it be quenched?

by **nippersean** on Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:07 pm

I hope not Natty.

I respect the effort, time and skill all the mapmakers put in, and have never made a negative comment before....

This map is awful in many respects...gameplay, too many cut-offs + neutrals - I said this about austerlitz but like that foggy dubs now, so i'll be easy on that.

It's ugly - really ugly.
It is very unclear - the bonus regions, the key - you cannot play this without Bob, the ships....

It is very difficult to work out anything on this map, even with experience - I cannot work out what you get bonuses for, what is the bonus region, well I'm getting better at 1/2 hr per turn.

My teammate (a strong player) just mis-deployed 'cos he thought all ships connected - did you not think of colourblind people?

Just a fuckin mess.

This map needs A LOT of work in clarity, gameplay, presentation - right now it's a mess that shudda never gotten into beta.

Sorry if I upset anyone, I do appreciate the skill , hardwork - just looks like this one slipped through the net. For me (and my teammates) btw I win this turn - it's not sour grapes - just a very poor map from a foundry that is better than this.

Nipp

by **natty dread** on Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:40 am

Well, no one's forcing you to play it.

by **thenobodies80** on Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:03 pm

nippersean wrote:My teammate (a strong player) just mis-deployed 'cos he thought all ships connected - did you not think of colourblind people?

Can I ask which junks (ships) are a problem to distinguish for your teammate?
I want to be sure to not have other colorblind issues on this one before going further with the process. O:)

Said that, I must point out that it is written on the map that only junks with the same color are connected each other.

natty_dread wrote:Well, no one's forcing you to play it.

Natty, you should know that this is not a great answer nor a solution of the current issues.

Nobodies

by **natty dread** on Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:37 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:Natty, you should know that this is not a great answer nor a solution of the current issues.

Sure it is. You can't please everyone, people like different things. Some people love the map, some hate it, just like any other map. That's fine.

I don't see any specific issues being brought up here. Junks connect to junks of same colour, as is stated in the legend. All the bonuses of the map are explained in the legend. If players don't want to take the time to read the rules of the map I can hardly be blamed for that.

by **danryan** on Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:44 pm

I haven't played this since early in Beta, since I didn't like the color scheme and found the bonus scheme unbalanced. I can't speak to gameplay, but looking at the map I still see similar visual issues as the original. My 2 cents.