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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v7.3

Postby natty dread on Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:18 pm

Hwang-sanbeol would make sense from gameplay perspective. Not sure about the historical perspective though. I'll let IH elaborate on that.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v7.3

Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:11 pm

My reasoning behind the green junk is that Gaya had trade relations with Japan and were the primary exporter of technology to Kyushu. They also had political ties of some sort to Yamato Japan. So it makes sense for them to have some sort of sea ability and relation with Japan.

Though, if you guys want the junk to be place at Hwangsanbeol, that would work too as Wa was defeated by Goguryeo in the mouth of the Geum River (which is right about there).

My most favored solution would be another green junk to form a triangle between these three places.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v7.3

Postby theBastard on Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:43 am

Industrial Helix wrote:My reasoning behind the green junk is that Gaya had trade relations with Japan and were the primary exporter of technology to Kyushu. They also had political ties of some sort to Yamato Japan. So it makes sense for them to have some sort of sea ability and relation with Japan.

Though, if you guys want the junk to be place at Hwangsanbeol, that would work too as Wa was defeated by Goguryeo in the mouth of the Geum River (which is right about there).

My most favored solution would be another green junk to form a triangle between these three places.


if there are records that gaya had relations with Japan, why there is -4 if you hold wa and any capital? what about -4 for wa and any capital except bon-gaya?
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v7.3

Postby natty dread on Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:21 am

theBastard wrote:if there are records that gaya had relations with Japan, why there is -4 if you hold wa and any capital? what about -4 for wa and any capital except bon-gaya?


I think that would be too complicated. It would also make Gaya too strong, since you could hold Wa + Gaya. Gaya never conquered Japan, nor vice versa.

Gaya is meant more as a small, easy bonus that is easy to annex to either Baekje or Silla.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v7.3

Postby natty dread on Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:29 am

For the green junk, we have 3 options:

- add a 4th green junk to hwangsanbeol
- move the bon-gaya junk to hwangsanbeol
- move the bon-gaya junk to aragaya
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v7.3

Postby theBastard on Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:55 pm

the second is the best, I think.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v7.3

Postby natty dread on Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:45 pm

I don't know, IH has a good point about Gaya & Japan having had past relations, so having the connection in Aragaya would make sense.

Then again, Hwangsanbeol would make sense too, in the sense that the owner of Silla could easily use it to take Tamna which gives additional bonus to Silla - so it would sort of reward Silla for assaulting Baekje, which fits historical facts well.

So there are historical arguments for both options.

Then again, we could also have a green junk in both Aragaya and Hwangsanbeol (or Bon-Gaya & Hwangsanbeol), but it seems a little redundant to me since they are already adjacent to each other.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v7.3

Postby theBastard on Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:44 pm

there are 3 green junks while others are only 2. what about to do also other colour junks 3?

green junk move from bon-gaya move to aragaya.

add red junk to hwang-sanbeol. - historical connection as IH said. and hwang-sanbeol will be not connect by aragay over sea.

maybe add brown to lelang. - there will be more connections for tang bonus. and I think when these striped areas were part of tang there were any connections.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v7.3

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:44 pm

Aragaya and Hwangsanbeol.... this seems like the best option.

It just occurred to me... what happens if a player holds Namgyeong and Bongaya... a player shouldn't get both bonuses, the Baekje/Silla bonus system should override. Can we fit this in somewhere?
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v7.3

Postby natty dread on Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:31 am

Yes. How about "If both capitals are held, larger bonus applies to striped territories"
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v8

Postby natty dread on Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:26 am

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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v8

Postby theBastard on Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:15 am

it would be better with red junk in hwangsanbeol. for what have hwangsanbeol and aragaya connection over sea when they have land border?
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v8

Postby natty dread on Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:29 am

The connection is not just between them. Both can also connect to Kyushu or Tamna.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v8

Postby theBastard on Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:41 am

natty_dread wrote:The connection is not just between them. Both can also connect to Kyushu or Tamna.


and why not to add red junk to hwangsanbeol? it will has connection with kyushu and honshu. four green junks give too mush assault possibilities. do not forgot that hwangsanbeol and aragaya have land border, so there will be short acess to green junk.
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Re: Three Kingdoms of Korea v8

Postby natty dread on Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:50 am

The green junk in hwangsanbeol is because Tamna gives bonus to Silla, so it gives Silla a reason to invade Baekje.

Also there are other historical reasons for the connections. If you want to know more ask IH, he's the one designing the gameplay.
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