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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:01 pm

Riskismy wrote:
Unit_2 wrote:I'm sure there are other colors you can use besides yellow and green twice.


I'll have to agree. Other mapmakers are able to find 8 distinct colours (even for the colour-impaired). Having 4 separate bonus areas with the same two colours aren't cool, even if no-one is confused by it.



Have either of you ever looked at an old map? There are generally only about 4 colors. I like how this one turned out.
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Riskismy on Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:18 pm

I like it too. I would like it better with different colours, though.

No biggie. Don't really care.
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Unit_2 on Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:06 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
Riskismy wrote:
Unit_2 wrote:I'm sure there are other colors you can use besides yellow and green twice.


I'll have to agree. Other mapmakers are able to find 8 distinct colours (even for the colour-impaired). Having 4 separate bonus areas with the same two colours aren't cool, even if no-one is confused by it.



Have either of you ever looked at an old map? There are generally only about 4 colors. I like how this one turned out.


Yes, I have. But this isn't an old map, nor should anyone mimic an old one. All maps need to be original, but this one is too bland. Look at the one before the revamp, all the colors lined up great bar the gray which was a slot filler. Nevertheless, it did fit the region. This region in Canada does not fit the green, yellow, or blue climate color people associate it with. Why should it be left do dull when it can be bright and full of life? Creating this map, that was one of my goals. Attracting attention to this region, not just remaking an old map.

Color blind(Impaired, which ever you prefer), like this map; however, it is bland to the others. There is a middle ground where everyone can have the advantage, this option is having a differ in color.

I personally do not see a reason why this is such a big request. It will give more life to the map and make it even more fun to play for both the colored and uncolored seeing players. Tisha, what is your take?

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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby natty dread on Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:10 pm

For what it's worth, I offer the colours I used in my entry (#1) to use if you like. Those are colourblind-proof and I think fit the theme as well... http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/8840/gulf5s.png
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Tisha on Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:43 pm

Really, don't sit here an tell me my map is dull, or not bright. Not original, when I made it. Maybe adjust your screen..

I don't even know what you mean when you say

"This region in Canada does not fit the green, yellow, or blue climate color people associate it with."

And why shouldn't anyone mimic an old map? The region has old French history, and that where my idea flowed from. Most of the older maps only used three to four colors. I think to take that away would ruin the whole style I used.. that people did vote for.
Changing the colors isn't a middle ground, and I doubt it will satisfy you... you're saying you don't like the whole style.
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby isaiah40 on Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:36 am

The coloring looks fine to me, it looks like an old map, a little bright for the time period IMO, but they work for everyone. So I say let's not argue over the colors and just get the XML done so we can get this into Beta!! Can we all at least agree on that?
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby natty dread on Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:23 am

I'd still like to see the map images with 888:s to be sure they all fit properly.
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Victor Sullivan on Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:15 pm

natty_dread wrote:I'd still like to see the map images with 888:s to be sure they all fit properly.

I imagine you'll see that when she finishes the XML...
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Victor Sullivan on Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:16 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:
natty_dread wrote:I'd still like to see the map images with 888:s to be sure they all fit properly.

I imagine you'll see that when she finishes the XML...

Looks to me like they'll fit easily on the small version anyhow.
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Orange-Idaho-Dog on Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:47 am

Forgive me for not uploading this somewhere.. Time crunch and I lost my old ripway account login.

This was the latest (Forza checked and approved) xml from the last time the map made a run through the foundry. All of the borders are correct, per the original approval of the gameplay, as well as the bonuses, and the force of splitting up the regions to prevent getting dropped a bonus, or something along those lines... Only the co-ordinates should need changed, unless there was any big XML reader updates. Mind you this was written maybe.. a year ago or so, can't remember exactly.

show: Golfe du St. Laurent XML


Feel free to use it to save some time, or re-write it. Whatever floats your boat. Glad to see this map finally getting into the Beta stage. :)
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby rdsrds2120 on Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:58 pm

There would be a color problem if she used the colors as the only indication in the legend to represent bonuses. The use of a mini-map makes it not need any more colors than 4., technically. The color scheme matches the history like this, and I'd say Tisha has a knack for getting old looking maps down (li.e First Nations Maps). Looks swell. =D>

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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Tisha on Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:54 pm

small 888's fit alright?

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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby natty dread on Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:05 pm

Wellll.... everything looks pretty much ok, just a few details / tweaks I'd like to suggest...

Laurentides label could go slightly up to make room for the number. Just a pixel or two.
Similarly, Montreal label could go a pixel or two down.

Bas St. Laurent seems a bit problematic... perhaps you could put "Bas" and "St." on the same line, since the label goes over the line anyway... I don't know, could be worth a shot. It currently looks kinda cramped, though.
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby rdsrds2120 on Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:15 pm

Lanaudiere's number position just a tidbit to the left?

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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby ender516 on Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:59 pm

natty_dread wrote:Similarly, Montreal label could go a pixel or two down.

If you do this, Tisha, be sure not to have the letter "l" close off that bridge to Montérégie.
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby MarathonMax on Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:44 am

Dont know if it was picked up by anyone else but the region north east of Québec is actually spelled "Charlevoix" with a R
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby ender516 on Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:01 pm

maximegousse wrote:Dont know if it was picked up by anyone else but the region north east of Québec is actually spelled "Charlevoix" with a R

It was mentioned already, way back here, but it may have been overlooked, so another mention is not out of line.
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Tisha on Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:22 pm

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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby natty dread on Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:18 am

Looks good.
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby MarathonMax on Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:56 am

Sept-Rivières? Hummm, I would suggest Sept-Iles, the name of the town there. better known that way to local people.
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby ender516 on Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:01 pm

Ah, but then the folks of Port-Cartier would rise up in protest...
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Tisha on Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:18 pm

did the xml today. anything else changing before I post it?


xml checker isn't liking è
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby natty dread on Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:11 am

Tisha wrote:did the xml today. anything else changing before I post it?


xml checker isn't liking è


Try escaping it with è
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby Tisha on Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:23 am

natty_dread wrote:
Tisha wrote:did the xml today. anything else changing before I post it?


xml checker isn't liking è


Try escaping it with è

I don't know what that means?
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Re: Golfe Du St. Laurent

Postby natty dread on Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:47 am

Replace the è with è in the xml file. It's html code for è and it works in xml too.
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