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Postby Teya on Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:25 am

I think your map is a tad too tall.
Grampian & Strathclyde colours are too dark IMO. Central and the ocean are way too similar.
You have a few really small territories that would struggle to hold an army number in them now.... I dont know how they'd manage once you reduced the map for the small version.
The white text is quite hard to read in Lothian.
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Postby Balsiefen on Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:34 am

gimil wrote:im rather concerned about the graphics. Are you currentl worknig on gameplay with graphics coming later on?


I'm working with both at the moment.

To be honest I think this thread needs a new map. I quite like the idea of a Scotland map, but I just don't feel this one is up to scratch.


how would you want the new one different? (bearing in mind i'm using gimp)

I think for a scotland map it need a strong patriotic feel.


I definatly agree, i am working on adding image overlays so that you get them in the background in the sea

I think your map is a tad too tall.
Grampian & Strathclyde colours are too dark IMO. Central and the ocean are way too similar.
You have a few really small territories that would struggle to hold an army number in them now.... I dont know how they'd manage once you reduced the map for the small version.
The white text is quite hard to read in Lothian.

These are all good sugestions and ones i can proberbly fix.
* i can shorten off the lower part whare england is
*Grampian & strathclyde can be brightened
*I coul proberbly enlarge the smallest terrritories
*i can darken Lothian

Anyway, thanks for commenting, i was beggining to think no one was looking at it :D
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Postby gimil on Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:50 am

ive jsut noticed it adn will eb keeping a clsoe eye on it since i am scottish :wink:
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Postby Balsiefen on Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:20 am

I'm testing some ways of getting the good old patriotic images up, i'll post them in a bit.
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Postby gimil on Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:22 am

are you from scotland?
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Postby RjBeals on Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:37 am

Map is way to tall. Even though it wouldn't be true north, I would rather you flip the whole thing 90 degrees counter-clockwise & re-align the country names.

I see a very faint texture on the water - try adding some light textures to the territories also. Now they look boring as just solid colors.

Borders look too strong & not smooth enough. For as many curves & twists as you have, I think a thinner border would work better. Maybe use the thick borders for the "continent's" and thinner borders for territories.

Mountains are ok - a little shadow or something may improve them.

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Postby Balsiefen on Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:40 am

are you from scotland?


I live in England but i'm half scottish and i go to scotland several times a year
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Postby gimil on Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:40 am

I done this with portugal.

So to be a hypocrit, id rather you didnt do this and just cut a little of the height.

As long as you dont push teh guideline to far there wont be a problem.
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Postby Balsiefen on Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:12 pm

Ok, most of the other things have been done on Scotlandgimp 1.4 which i will post when it is finished.

However, for patrioticism, what do you think of this? I know its a bit scrappy at the moment but should i do any more or make the entire sea made out of these images or forgt it and try again.

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Postby Balsiefen on Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:38 pm

Ok iv tested a few different textures out, any preferances?
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Postby RjBeals on Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:49 pm

The first one. I would even like more texture but that's just me :)
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Postby Teya on Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:55 pm

I dont think the map should be put sideways. Keep it how it is.
You could probably move the legend down a bit and cut a bit off the top of the map.
You are pushing the size guidelines a bit, but if you keep the height under 800 you'll be fine. Your map is currently 814px tall.

How many territories do you have? I know it is written somewhere, but Im lazy and cant be bothered finding it.

Its hard to tell what textures are really like without seeing the whole map. But at the moment, I dont mind the second from the bottom.
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Postby Balsiefen on Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:07 am

RjBeals wrote:The first one. I would even like more texture but that's just me :)

Easily done, is everyone else happy with this?

dont think the map should be put sideways. Keep it how it is.
You could probably move the legend down a bit and cut a bit off the top of the map.
You are pushing the size guidelines a bit, but if you keep the height under 800 you'll be fine. Your map is currently 814px tall.

How many territories do you have? I know it is written somewhere, but Im lazy and cant be bothered finding it.

Its hard to tell what textures are really like without seeing the whole map. But at the moment, I dont mind the second from the bottom.


Already shortened it, i think its ok now

36, nice and divisable

Its hard to tell what textures are really like without seeing the whole map. But at the moment, I dont mind the second from the bottom

I wish i could get some kind of poll on this as the old one is obsolite now.

What about the image? should i keep that?
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Postby Balsiefen on Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:31 am

Ok this is the update, personnally i'm not too sure about the texture but what do you think

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Things done
Made west lotian & kinross larger
Lightened up grampian and strathclyde
Altered colour for central
Darkened lothian
added land texture
Added image on sea

I can get rid of any of these as they're all nicely layered
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Postby Newcastle on Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:40 am

i think texture number three was best.
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Postby Teya on Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:45 am

If you want a new poll, PM KEYOGI and ask him to remove the current poll for you.
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Postby jennifermarie on Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:49 pm

I have a few suggestions:

1. West Lothian and Midlothian's text runs together just a little, maybe move the word Midlothian down just a touch.

2. Possibly add another picture onto the bottom left above Ireland.

3. If you get time, it may be a good idea to put the army circles in so positioning can be figured out with the text.

The map is looking really good so far!
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Postby CrazyAnglican on Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:03 pm

Looks good. I like the bold color choice between the territories; it makes it easy to see one from the other.
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Postby Balsiefen on Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:06 am

Thank you :D

V1.5 now being started

* does anyone know what the best size for an army circle on a large map is?
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Postby KEYOGI on Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:59 am

22 or 24 pixels are usually best for army shadows.
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Postby RjBeals on Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:26 am

I'm not a fan of the swordsman faded into the background. It looks out of place.
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Postby cena-rules on Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:04 am

I think that england and ireland should have territories to make it bigger and also i like the guy in the background. As well as this merge the 2 southern bonuses together and have a south scotland bonus worth 4
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Postby gimil on Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:54 pm

cena-rules wrote:I think that england and ireland should have territories to make it bigger and also i like the guy in the background. As well as this merge the 2 southern bonuses together and have a south scotland bonus worth 4


I personally think that it should just be scotland.
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Postby Newcastle on Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:42 am

yeah it should remain an all Scotland map. No territories in England or Ireland.
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Postby cena-rules on Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:29 am

yes but it would make the map bigger and more bonuses also
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