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by **Nc_Hunt3r** on Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:31 pm

Thanks for the detailed response and i can see reasoning to both sides =)

by **yeti_c** on Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:16 am

The problem with this is that - although I partially agree that markets could be neutral for 1v1... but they need to stay non-neutral for any more than 2...

This is impossible with the current system so therefore the majority prevails... and the markets stay open and not neutral.

C.

by **Danram** on Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:30 pm

I was looking in the forum, but i can´t find an answer to this.

In one game - http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=894104 - first red held colato, but green fort hope. Even though, in one occasion, red got the market bonus (plants). Now green got colato and all the way to puerto rico, but still won´t get bonuses for goods (clothes+puerto esperanza).

What must happen so that colato has bonuses?

Thanks for any answer.

bye.

by **DiM** on Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:58 pm

Danram wrote:I was looking in the forum, but i can´t find an answer to this.

In one game - http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=894104 - first red held colato, but green fort hope. Even though, in one occasion, red got the market bonus (plants). Now green got colato and all the way to puerto rico, but still won´t get bonuses for goods (clothes+puerto esperanza).

What must happen so that colato has bonuses?

Thanks for any answer.

bye.

in order to get the bonus for transporting the resources to a foreign market you need to own the resource pair, the market and 2 ports. 1 on the resource continent and 1 on the market continent.

in your case you have the hat and clothes resource and you have the colato market. now you need 2 ports to connect them. one on your resource continent you have puerto esperanza and you need one more port on the continent that has colato.
if you look at each land mass they have a thin colored border representing the continent they belong to. colato is in the red continent along with all the center islands. so you need to get puerto tranquillo or puerto modesto in order to get the colato bonus.

by **Danram** on Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:36 pm

thank you for your fast reply. Now it makes perfect sense.

by **DiM** on Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:39 pm

Danram wrote:thank you for your fast reply. Now it makes perfect sense.

you're welcome mate. i see you have a good chance at winning that game. good luck.

by **DiM** on Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:11 pm

i like the stats marval presented for Benelux so i copied the idea

Age of Merchants stats:

Total number of games so far started up on the Age of Merchants map: 72 x 100 = 7200*

Summary:

Active

300

Finished

7000

Waiting for players

100

Extended:

Number of Players:

4400

700

1000

300

1000

Game Type:

6100

400

100

600

200

Play Order:

1600

5600

Bonus Cards:

2200

2400

2700

Fortifications:

2000

1500

3700

Joinability:

6600

500

300

Round Length:

6800

500

Tournament Games (31):

* The count is number of pages (with each 100 games by page) x number of games by page (100).

by **Gilligan** on Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:29 pm

Your map is in my 4 Man Madness tournament.

by **DiM** on Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:50 pm

Gilligan wrote:Your map is in my 4 Man Madness tournament.

thanks. edited above

by **Redwood** on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:03 pm

Two small questions. I understand why two ports connect for the market bonus. Now, I ask, why don't docks connect. Also, do you need to own all the territory between the market and the port?

Besides these questions, good map with an interesting concept, I like it.

by **Aerial Attack** on Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:19 pm

Redwood wrote:Two small questions. I understand why two ports connect for the market bonus. Now, I ask, why don't docks connect. Also, do you need to own all the territory between the market and the port?

Besides these questions, good map with an interesting concept, I like it.

I'm not the map creator, so my assumptions could be wrong. But, here is my take:

Port to Port. Ports are assumed to be large enough for a ship to come in and do commerce. Once on land, the goods manage to find a way to market (an escort is sent with the goods) - regardless of who owns the lands in between. It's not strictly a money for goods exchange. Otherwise, as long as you owned the Port on the Resource Pair side and either a Port or Dock on the Market side - it might work.

Dock to Dock is more for sending your men across on a row boat of sorts (you can't really fit all your goods on the row boat & men to protect those goods & men to protect the boat). Obviously ships have row boats aboard, but they never leave them ashore for long or unprotected. Who would protect the row boat whilst the men and goods traveled to and from the Dock to Market?

by **DiM** on Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:49 am

Redwood wrote:Two small questions. I understand why two ports connect for the market bonus. Now, I ask, why don't docks connect. Also, do you need to own all the territory between the market and the port?

Besides these questions, good map with an interesting concept, I like it.

ports are big enough for galleons to travel between them and do trading as well as attacking.

docks are too small to do trading but they provide a good landing spot for attacking.

by **yeti_c** on Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:55 am

Aerial Attack wrote:
Redwood wrote:Two small questions. I understand why two ports connect for the market bonus. Now, I ask, why don't docks connect. Also, do you need to own all the territory between the market and the port?

Besides these questions, good map with an interesting concept, I like it.

I'm not the map creator, so my assumptions could be wrong. But, here is my take:

Port to Port. Ports are assumed to be large enough for a ship to come in and do commerce. Once on land, the goods manage to find a way to market (an escort is sent with the goods) - regardless of who owns the lands in between. It's not strictly a money for goods exchange. Otherwise, as long as you owned the Port on the Resource Pair side and either a Port or Dock on the Market side - it might work.

Dock to Dock is more for sending your men across on a row boat of sorts (you can't really fit all your goods on the row boat & men to protect those goods & men to protect the boat). Obviously ships have row boats aboard, but they never leave them ashore for long or unprotected. Who would protect the row boat whilst the men and goods traveled to and from the Dock to Market?

I like this explanation the best!!!

C.

by **DiM** on Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:05 am

yeti_c wrote:
Aerial Attack wrote:
Redwood wrote:Two small questions. I understand why two ports connect for the market bonus. Now, I ask, why don't docks connect. Also, do you need to own all the territory between the market and the port?

Besides these questions, good map with an interesting concept, I like it.

I'm not the map creator, so my assumptions could be wrong. But, here is my take:

Port to Port. Ports are assumed to be large enough for a ship to come in and do commerce. Once on land, the goods manage to find a way to market (an escort is sent with the goods) - regardless of who owns the lands in between. It's not strictly a money for goods exchange. Otherwise, as long as you owned the Port on the Resource Pair side and either a Port or Dock on the Market side - it might work.

Dock to Dock is more for sending your men across on a row boat of sorts (you can't really fit all your goods on the row boat & men to protect those goods & men to protect the boat). Obviously ships have row boats aboard, but they never leave them ashore for long or unprotected. Who would protect the row boat whilst the men and goods traveled to and from the Dock to Market?

I like this explanation the best!!!

C.

me too. it has flavor

by **Night Strike** on Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:08 pm

DiM and yeti_c, is there a way to reformat the XML?? I don't know exactly how overrides and such work, but couldn't those be implemented to remove all those negative bonuses that are showing in the BOB menu. It would make the whole thing load faster. Since the change wouldn't affect anything in gameplay, would it be allowed?