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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [1 Sep 2011]

Postby ISN2 on Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:58 am

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   <!-- Istanbul -->
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      <name>Esenler</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
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         <territory>50. Yil Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Gaziosmanpasa</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
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         <territory>Yenidogan Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Mevlana Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Guzeltepe Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Besiktas</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Kagithane</territory>
         <territory>Besiktas</territory>
         <territory>Etiler Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Beyoglu</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
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         <territory>Kuloglu Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Yildiz Sarayi</territory>
      </components>
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   <continent>
      <name>Fatih</name>
      <bonus>6</bonus>
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         <territory>Bayrampasa</territory>
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         <territory>Zeytinburnu</territory>
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   <continent>
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      <bonus>4</bonus>
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         <territory>Elmalikent Mh.</territory>
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      <bonus>2</bonus>
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   <continent>
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         <border>Atasehir</border>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>432</smallx>
         <smally>388</smally>
         <largex>578</largex>
         <largey>510</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
         <border>Atakent Mh.</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>493</smallx>
         <smally>383</smally>
         <largex>659</largex>
         <largey>506</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Atasehir</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Kadikoy</border>
         <border>Aydinevler Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>486</smallx>
         <smally>438</smally>
         <largex>644</largex>
         <largey>575</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Aydinevler Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kadikoy</border>
         <border>Atasehir</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>479</smallx>
         <smally>468</smally>
         <largex>643</largex>
         <largey>620</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Kadikoy</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Aydinevler Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Fenerbahce Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>422</smallx>
         <smally>443</smally>
         <largex>565</largex>
         <largey>583</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Fenerbahce Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kadikoy</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Zeytinlik Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>370</smallx>
         <smally>454</smally>
         <largex>491</largex>
         <largey>596</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Zuhtupasa Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Fenerbahce Mh.</border>
         <border>Kadikoy</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Unalan Mh.</border>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
         <border>Ayazma Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
         <border>Topkapi</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>342</smallx>
         <smally>393</smally>
         <largex>456</largex>
         <largey>516</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Ayazma Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Kuloglu Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>320</smallx>
         <smally>316</smally>
         <largex>427</largex>
         <largey>413</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <!-- Map By ISN2 -->
</map>


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natty_dread wrote:The edges of the minimap still look jagged...

The land area edges could use smoothing, there's many places with unnecessary small wiggles... like that thing on Zeytinlik, and the coast of Piri Pasa...

Also, the text is a bit hard to read on the small version.


About mini map edges, it's on purpose, that's a peace of paper, it's the style for it ...

Those small wiggles are ports/etc that you can see on real maps and I guess it's more beautiful to keep them there.

About small map texts, I changed the font style, it's now so easier to read names ...

delibekir wrote:Nice work!

I live in Turkey and some typos in territory names caught my eye, so I checked all of them on the map. Correct ones are:
Marmantepe Mh. -> Harmantepe Mh.
Kermal Pasa Mh. -> Kemal Pasa Mh. (with Turkish characters: Kemal Paşa Mh.)
Gosku Mh. -> Goksu Mh. (Turkish: Göksu Mh.)
Meviana Mh. -> Mevlana Mh.
(bonus name) Guztepe -> Goztepe (Turkish: Göztepe)

I also have some minor suggestions.
Territories with "Mh." are small districts and these names may not be known much.
So I'm suggesting some replacements where it is possible (these are shorter names too):

Muradiye Mh. -> "Yildiz Sarayi" or only "Yildiz" (saray=palace. this is a known place. Turkish: Yıldız)
Mollafenari Mh. -> Topkapi (Turkish: Topkapı)
Beş Telsiz Mh. -> Zeytinburnu
Harmantepe Mh. -> Kagithane (Turkish: Kağıthane)

I also agree with tokle that the original territory names with Turkish letters would be better.
I can help finding necessary fonts if you are willing to change them, just send me a PM.
For example the Journal font I found on the web already supports some of the Turkish letters like Ü, Ö, Ç.


Thanks a lot for help my friend, I fixed all names and also changed all the names you suggested ...

ender516 wrote:Happily, if you can put the right Turkish characters here, then we know it can be done in the XML as well, so the names will be correct in the drop-down menus and the game logs. So I hope the search for a suitable font is successful.


About using Turkish characters for main names in the map, sadly I'm not going to do that, I played Iberia map a few times and when I was not using clickable maps, I always had problems with those special characters, when not using clickable maps, I select the territory drop down and type half of the name I see on map to get to that territory in the list, but in Iberia I always had problem with typing the names since I could not type "Évora" or many other of those territory names ...
I'm not going to put people to this problem in this map, I prefer the standard English characters, the Turkish one I was discussing with tokle, was my misunderstanding that I thought he/she meant the postal card photo name ...

tokle wrote:
tokle wrote:I meant the text on the actual map, not the postcard.

A lot of the placenames are misspelled. Does no-one else than me have a problem with that?

Read top sections of these post for these ^^^

lostatlimbo wrote:I didn't see this discussed yet, but I'm curious why you chose the colors you did.

I really want to like this map, but it is far too bright to look at for any extended period of time. There's no way I could play it. Between the bright neon orange/yellow bonus highlights and the bright red map borders, my retinas short circuit.

The nobodies posted a colorblind test with issue previously and it doesn't seem that you've addressed that either, so I'm hoping you'll reconsider that palette!

$.02

About the colorblind test, I added the mini map, so there will be no more problems for a colorblind person ...

thenobodies80 wrote:I agree with natty_dread about the text on the small version. I'm worried that when the image will be compressed the font will result really hard to read.
Another advice I want to give you is to save your images as png instead of jpg, in this way I can pass to lackattack a lossless format file. ;)

I suggest to try to refine a bit the coastline of Etiler Mh. and Besiktas, maybe also Piri Pasa, as suggested by natty.
The minimap, it certainly helps to solve the colorblind issue, but it seems to me something done in 5 mins of work; no offence, but the different font sizes, the different directions of the text....I'm pretty sure think you can do something better than that. :-k
Another way could be to go back and work on colors, now you have something like #fe7819 for Fatih, you can use a darker color....maybe #9b4609; for gaziosmanpasa, where you have something like #76ca1c, you can use a color like #a3cda0.
Find two different colors will allow you to go back and have the old legend that was much better than the minimap you have now!

A final note about the direction of the text, you have a couple of names that go in a different directions, to be precise the "Mh" of "Etiler Mh" and also "Inebey Mh".

Looking forward your next update :)
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I fixed small version problems, also the outputs are now in PNG ...

About costliness, yeah I saw the problem, refined them ...

About mini map, believe me I tested many thing and that's the best I got out ... Different font sizes and directions are to place the texts better and also make them to place in their own continent as much as possible ... Personally I like the mini map style myself ...

If I want to change the colors to make them "colorblind safe!" I actually have to change all colors, and it will completely change the map's look, also look at the past version with old legend and this new one beside each other, the new mini map is more classy and beautiful in my idea ...

And about texts going in different directions I'm not sure what do you mean? It's a text box in Photoshop, without any path or path style, maybe because "M" is bigger in left and "h." is smaller in right with a rounded corner you think they go in different directions!?

DiM wrote:i say remove the "Mh."
it looks rather bad because of the repetition.

i had a similar problem on steamworks where "shire" was present in almost all terits. so i simply removed it.


oh and Mh indeed stands for mahale. we have the same word in romanian except it's spelled mahala and it means neighbourhood, sector, district etc

Well since delibekir didn't suggest removing "Mh"s I think it's more correct for them to be there ... Of course they are making a difference with names without "Mh" too ...

And thanks for the info about the word, I'm happy that I guessed the meaning correctly ...
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [28 Oct 2011]

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:05 am

Looks pretty good. I'm not sure if it is just me, or others see the region/territory names as pixely or fuzzy, but that is one thing my eyes see.

Would you be opposed to adopting a new color for Kadikoy, since you use that gold color for the highway/road system?

Keep up the good work,


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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [28 Oct 2011]

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:16 am

AndyDufresne wrote:Looks pretty good. I'm not sure if it is just me, or others see the region/territory names as pixely or fuzzy, but that is one thing my eyes see.


They are. ISN2, have a play around with your text options. Should clear that up without having to change anything.
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [28 Oct 2011]

Postby natty dread on Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:22 am

About mini map edges, it's on purpose, that's a peace of paper, it's the style for it ...


Right, but it doesn't look like paper edges, it looks like pixelation. Just smooth over the pixelation, you can still have a slightly uneven edge on it... try going over the edges with the smudge tool, real carefully, just slightly smoothing them until there's no pixelation, but be careful not to overdo it...

ISN2 wrote:About small map texts, I changed the font style, it's now so easier to read names ...


It could still use a bit of improvement, IMO. Maybe try making it 1 px larger?
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [28 Oct 2011]

Postby ISN2 on Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:46 am

Any suggestions for the fonts? Changing color? adding background? Adding line around it? Or maybe removing glows etc ...? I tested many things and I can't still get a prefect thing on small one ...

Making the texts larger may cause some problems with texts going on highways and other territories ...
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [1 Sep 2011]

Postby tokle on Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:52 am

ISN2 wrote:About using Turkish characters for main names in the map, sadly I'm not going to do that, I played Iberia map a few times and when I was not using clickable maps, I always had problems with those special characters, when not using clickable maps, I select the territory drop down and type half of the name I see on map to get to that territory in the list, but in Iberia I always had problem with typing the names since I could not type "Évora" or many other of those territory names ...
I'm not going to put people to this problem in this map, I prefer the standard English characters, the Turkish one I was discussing with tokle, was my misunderstanding that I thought he/she meant the postal card photo name ...

You could use the turkish characters on the map only, and not in the xml code. Or would that be confusing?
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [28 Oct 2011]

Postby natty dread on Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:12 pm

ISN2 wrote:Making the texts larger may cause some problems with texts going on highways and other territories ...


Nah, I think they'll fit ok if you just increase it 1px.

Also, were you using GIMP? If so, turn the text auto-hinting on.
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [11 Nov 2011]

Postby ISN2 on Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:51 am

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Large With Armies:
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<map>
   <!-- Istanbul -->
   <continent>
      <name>Esenler</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Mumcu Mh.</territory>
         <territory>50. Yil Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Gaziosmanpasa</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Karadeniz Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Yenidogan Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Mevlana Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Guzeltepe Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Besiktas</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Kagithane</territory>
         <territory>Besiktas</territory>
         <territory>Etiler Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Beyoglu</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Piri Pasa Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Kuloglu Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Yildiz Sarayi</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Fatih</name>
      <bonus>6</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Kazim Karabekir Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Bayrampasa</territory>
         <territory>Fatih</territory>
         <territory>Kemal Pasa Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Topkapi</territory>
         <territory>Inebey Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Gungoren</territory>
         <territory>Zeytinburnu</territory>
         <territory>Zeytinlik Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Goztepe</name>
      <bonus>4</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Kanlica Mh.</territory>
         <territory>164. Yil Polis Hatira Ormani</territory>
         <territory>Istanbul Kent Ormani</territory>
         <territory>Goksu Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Elmalikent Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Umraniye</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Atakent Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Saray Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <continent>
      <name>Kadikoy</name>
      <bonus>8</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Ferah Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Uskudar</territory>
         <territory>Unalan Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Fetih Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Ayazma Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Zuhtupasa Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Kadikoy</territory>
         <territory>Atasehir</territory>
         <territory>Aydinevler Mh.</territory>
         <territory>Fenerbahce Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   <territory>
      <name>Mumcu Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Karadeniz Mh.</border>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>60</smallx>
         <smally>118</smally>
         <largex>75</largex>
         <largey>143</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>50. Yil Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Mumcu Mh.</border>
         <border>Karadeniz Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Kazim Karabekir Mh.</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>55</smallx>
         <smally>158</smally>
         <largex>75</largex>
         <largey>192</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Karadeniz Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Mumcu Mh.</border>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Mevlana Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>94</smallx>
         <smally>137</smally>
         <largex>127</largex>
         <largey>175</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Mevlana Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Karadeniz Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>184</smallx>
         <smally>149</smally>
         <largex>246</largex>
         <largey>190</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Yenidogan Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
         <border>Karadeniz Mh.</border>
         <border>Mevlana Mh.</border>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>148</smallx>
         <smally>167</smally>
         <largex>198</largex>
         <largey>217</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Guzeltepe Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
         <border>Mevlana Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Etiler Mh.</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>229</smallx>
         <smally>112</smally>
         <largex>306</largex>
         <largey>143</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
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         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Yildiz Sarayi</border>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
         <border>Etiler Mh.</border>
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   <territory>
      <name>Etiler Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
         <border>Kanlica Mh.</border>
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      <name>Besiktas</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Etiler Mh.</border>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
         <border>Yildiz Sarayi</border>
         <border>Kuloglu Mh.</border>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
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         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
         <border>Guzeltepe Mh.</border>
         <border>Kagithane</border>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
         <border>Yildiz Sarayi</border>
         <border>Kuloglu Mh.</border>
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         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Kuloglu Mh.</border>
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         <border>Besiktas</border>
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         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Yildiz Sarayi</border>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Ayazma Mh.</border>
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         <largex>311</largex>
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      <name>Kazim Karabekir Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
         <border>Gungoren</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
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         <border>Kazim Karabekir Mh.</border>
         <border>Gungoren</border>
         <border>Inebey Mh.</border>
         <border>Fatih</border>
         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Piri Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>50. Yil Mh.</border>
         <border>Yenidogan Mh.</border>
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         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
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         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
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         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
         <border>Fatih</border>
         <border>Inebey Mh.</border>
         <border>Topkapi</border>
         <border>Kuloglu Mh.</border>
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         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
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         <border>Kazim Karabekir Mh.</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
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         <border>Zeytinlik Mh.</border>
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      <name>Zeytinlik Mh.</name>
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         <border>Gungoren</border>
         <border>Zeytinburnu</border>
         <border>Fenerbahce Mh.</border>
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      <name>Zeytinburnu</name>
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         <border>Zeytinlik Mh.</border>
         <border>Gungoren</border>
         <border>Inebey Mh.</border>
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   <territory>
      <name>Inebey Mh.</name>
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         <border>Zeytinburnu</border>
         <border>Gungoren</border>
         <border>Bayrampasa</border>
         <border>Fatih</border>
         <border>Kemal Pasa Mh.</border>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Kanlica Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Etiler Mh.</border>
         <border>164. Yil Polis Hatira Ormani</border>
         <border>Istanbul Kent Ormani</border>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
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         <smallx>440</smallx>
         <smally>153</smally>
         <largex>591</largex>
         <largey>190</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>164. Yil Polis Hatira Ormani</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kanlica Mh.</border>
         <border>Istanbul Kent Ormani</border>
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         <smallx>521</smallx>
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         <largey>197</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Goksu Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Istanbul Kent Ormani</border>
         <border>Elmalikent Mh.</border>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
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         <largex>564</largex>
         <largey>283</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Istanbul Kent Ormani</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kanlica Mh.</border>
         <border>164. Yil Polis Hatira Ormani</border>
         <border>Goksu Mh.</border>
         <border>Elmalikent Mh.</border>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
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      <coordinates>
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         <largey>223</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Elmalikent Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Istanbul Kent Ormani</border>
         <border>Goksu Mh.</border>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
         <border>Atakent Mh.</border>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
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         <smallx>467</smallx>
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         <largex>624</largex>
         <largey>340</largey>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Saray Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kanlica Mh.</border>
         <border>Istanbul Kent Ormani</border>
         <border>Elmalikent Mh.</border>
         <border>Atakent Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
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         <largey>399</largey>
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   <territory>
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      <borders>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
         <border>Elmalikent Mh.</border>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
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         <largey>430</largey>
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   <territory>
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      <borders>
         <border>Goksu Mh.</border>
         <border>Elmalikent Mh.</border>
         <border>Atakent Mh.</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Unalan Mh.</border>
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      <borders>
         <border>Besiktas</border>
         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
         <border>Unalan Mh.</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Ayazma Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
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         <largex>492</largex>
         <largey>409</largey>
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   <territory>
      <name>Unalan Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
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   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Fetih Mh.</name>
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         <border>Atakent Mh.</border>
         <border>Ferah Mh.</border>
         <border>Unalan Mh.</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
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         <border>Atasehir</border>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
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      <name>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</name>
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         <border>Saray Mh.</border>
         <border>Atakent Mh.</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir</border>
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      <name>Atasehir</name>
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         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
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         <border>Aydinevler Mh.</border>
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         <largex>645</largex>
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         <border>Atasehir</border>
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         <border>Aydinevler Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Fenerbahce Mh.</border>
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         <border>Kadikoy</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Zeytinlik Mh.</border>
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      <name>Zuhtupasa Mh.</name>
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         <border>Fenerbahce Mh.</border>
         <border>Kadikoy</border>
         <border>Fetih Mh.</border>
         <border>Unalan Mh.</border>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
         <border>Ayazma Mh.</border>
         <border>Atasehir Ataturk Mh.</border>
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         <largex>456</largex>
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   <territory>
      <name>Ayazma Mh.</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Uskudar</border>
         <border>Zuhtupasa Mh.</border>
         <border>Kuloglu Mh.</border>
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         <largex>403</largex>
         <largey>438</largey>
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   <!-- Map By ISN2 -->
</map>


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I did a complete re-font on both large and small versions O:)

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AndyDufresne wrote:Looks pretty good. I'm not sure if it is just me, or others see the region/territory names as pixely or fuzzy, but that is one thing my eyes see.

Would you be opposed to adopting a new color for Kadikoy, since you use that gold color for the highway/road system?

Keep up the good work,


--Andy

The best alternative I found for the orange/gold color was gray ...

koontz1973 wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Looks pretty good. I'm not sure if it is just me, or others see the region/territory names as pixely or fuzzy, but that is one thing my eyes see.


They are. ISN2, have a play around with your text options. Should clear that up without having to change anything.


Fixed ...

natty_dread wrote:
About mini map edges, it's on purpose, that's a peace of paper, it's the style for it ...


Right, but it doesn't look like paper edges, it looks like pixelation. Just smooth over the pixelation, you can still have a slightly uneven edge on it... try going over the edges with the smudge tool, real carefully, just slightly smoothing them until there's no pixelation, but be careful not to overdo it...

ISN2 wrote:About small map texts, I changed the font style, it's now so easier to read names ...


It could still use a bit of improvement, IMO. Maybe try making it 1 px larger?

Fixed ...

tokle wrote:
ISN2 wrote:About using Turkish characters for main names in the map, sadly I'm not going to do that, I played Iberia map a few times and when I was not using clickable maps, I always had problems with those special characters, when not using clickable maps, I select the territory drop down and type half of the name I see on map to get to that territory in the list, but in Iberia I always had problem with typing the names since I could not type "Évora" or many other of those territory names ...
I'm not going to put people to this problem in this map, I prefer the standard English characters, the Turkish one I was discussing with tokle, was my misunderstanding that I thought he/she meant the postal card photo name ...

You could use the turkish characters on the map only, and not in the xml code. Or would that be confusing?

It would absolutely be confusing!!! :|
Please forget this idea, I'm not sure why should we force ourselves to do something which can only cause problems for the players ...
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [11 Nov 2011]

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:40 am

I think the new color works pretty well. Looking good!


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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [11 Nov 2011]

Postby ender516 on Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:41 am

The coloured borders don't seem to be of a uniform width around each zone. Compare Uskudar to Ferah Mh. or Elmalikent Mh. to Kanlica Mh.
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [11 Nov 2011]

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:16 am

ISN2 wrote:
tokle wrote:
ISN2 wrote:About using Turkish characters for main names in the map, sadly I'm not going to do that, I played Iberia map a few times and when I was not using clickable maps, I always had problems with those special characters, when not using clickable maps, I select the territory drop down and type half of the name I see on map to get to that territory in the list, but in Iberia I always had problem with typing the names since I could not type "Évora" or many other of those territory names ...
I'm not going to put people to this problem in this map, I prefer the standard English characters, the Turkish one I was discussing with tokle, was my misunderstanding that I thought he/she meant the postal card photo name ...

You could use the turkish characters on the map only, and not in the xml code. Or would that be confusing?

It would absolutely be confusing!!! :|
Please forget this idea, I'm not sure why should we force ourselves to do something which can only cause problems for the players ...


I totally agree with you! Have the same characters on the map and in the xml is the way to go. Don't mix things, because, like you said, it will only create confusion.

ender516 wrote:The coloured borders don't seem to be of a uniform width around each zone. Compare Uskudar to Ferah Mh. or Elmalikent Mh. to Kanlica Mh.

Yeah, it would be nice to have the same width everywhere, it will help a lot do understand the continents borders and it will be also a nice graphics touch.

A couple of minor nitpicks, see the image into the spoiler:
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Finally, it's possible to have the highways that connect Bayrampasa, Kemal Pasa Mh., Kuloglu Mh. and Besiktas with the same width of the others, They look thinner right now. And the one that connects Kuloglu and besiktas is very hidden behind the text.

Good work ISN2, your map looks very nice, looking forward to see the above things fixed and so be able to give the beta stamp to this map very soon!
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby ISN2 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:24 am

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ender516 wrote:The coloured borders don't seem to be of a uniform width around each zone. Compare Uskudar to Ferah Mh. or Elmalikent Mh. to Kanlica Mh.

Fixed, also fixed all other coast borders ...

thenobodies80 wrote:A couple of minor nitpicks, see the image into the spoiler:

Fixed, also fixed many other ones I saw myself ...

thenobodies80 wrote:Finally, it's possible to have the highways that connect Bayrampasa, Kemal Pasa Mh., Kuloglu Mh. and Besiktas with the same width of the others, They look thinner right now.

Sadly it's not possible since they are thinner in real (It's not a mistake that they are thinner on map, it's on purpose), the bolder ones are highways and the thinner ones are wide/important avenues ...
Check Google Maps or these map links to ensure:
http://www.weather-forecast.com/locatio ... bul.12.jpg
http://www.welt-atlas.de/datenbank/kart ... -4-596.gif

thenobodies80 wrote:And the one that connects Kuloglu and besiktas is very hidden behind the text.

Fixed by moving text on both small and large version a little to sea ...
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby isaiah40 on Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:44 am

A couple of nitpicks: Why is the water two shades of blue?
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I suggest moving Kemal Pasa down under the army circle so you can see the roads, while Kuloglu either needs to be moved down or the circle moved up so the army number won't overlap the name.
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby Gillipig on Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:09 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Image
A couple of nitpicks: Why is the water two shades of blue?

I can see 4 different types; Lower right, lower left, north and the water between piri pasa and bayrampasa.
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby ISN2 on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:07 pm

isaiah40 wrote:A couple of nitpicks: Why is the water two shades of blue?
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I suggest moving Kemal Pasa down under the army circle so you can see the roads, while Kuloglu either needs to be moved down or the circle moved up so the army number won't overlap the name.

Gillipig wrote:
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A couple of nitpicks: Why is the water two shades of blue?

I can see 4 different types; Lower right, lower left, north and the water between piri pasa and bayrampasa.


It's the fold of map paper, has been discussed in past pages ...
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby natty dread on Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:25 pm

Yeah it doesn't quite work, why is the fold only visible on the sea?
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby ISN2 on Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:34 am

I want a final list of TODOs for this map, I'm tired of making changes and then someone thinks hey let's change the other thing too, this was a contest and was supposed to have the winning map a few changes if required, Not completely changing everything ...

As for the fold I already discussed it, if it's not cool, let me know to remove it like what the map was before it, about changing the placement of names told by isaiah40, I will do that too as soon as I get a final to do list from blue guys ...
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:14 pm

About the fold I think it looks better without it.
For the list of things you asked, I'll talk with the other guys to see what they think. (personally I'm happy as soon as you remove the fold).

I'll let you know their thoughts asap. ;)

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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby DiM on Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:02 pm

ISN2 wrote:I want a final list of TODOs for this map, I'm tired of making changes and then someone thinks hey let's change the other thing too, this was a contest and was supposed to have the winning map a few changes if required, Not completely changing everything ...


that's not how map making works.

judging by the lack of interest shown by the map maker and his perception of the map making process depicted in the quote above i think it would be best to see this map binned
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:51 pm

DiM wrote:
ISN2 wrote:I want a final list of TODOs for this map, I'm tired of making changes and then someone thinks hey let's change the other thing too, this was a contest and was supposed to have the winning map a few changes if required, Not completely changing everything ...


that's not how map making works.

judging by the lack of interest shown by the map maker and his perception of the map making process depicted in the quote above i think it would be best to see this map binned

I like the map too much to see it binned. :(


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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby DiM on Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:57 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
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ISN2 wrote:I want a final list of TODOs for this map, I'm tired of making changes and then someone thinks hey let's change the other thing too, this was a contest and was supposed to have the winning map a few changes if required, Not completely changing everything ...


that's not how map making works.

judging by the lack of interest shown by the map maker and his perception of the map making process depicted in the quote above i think it would be best to see this map binned

I like the map too much to see it binned. :(


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i like it too and after seeing the contest entries i agree it's a deserved winner but you can see for yourself how "often" the map is updated and how "eager" isn2 is to work with the foundry to improve the map.

cut him/her some slack and before you know it everybody will use ultimatums like:

"give me a final todo list cause i don't feel like working too much"
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby thenobodies80 on Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:10 pm

ISN2 wrote:As for the fold I already discussed it, if it's not cool, let me know to remove it like what the map was before it, about changing the placement of names told by isaiah40, I will do that too as soon as I get a final to do list from blue guys ...


I can confirm to you that from our part the only concerns are about the fold. In addition what Isaiah40 has already suggested to you here. Everything else looks ready to go. ;)

In any case, since for you this one is the first map to reach the beta stage and you talked about a final to-do list, let me state clear that the beta stamp doesn't mean that the map is finished, in fact :

guidelines wrote:Once the gameplay, graphics and XML stamps have been awarded, and the Foundry Foreman deems the map ready; your map will enter the Beta phase. This stage is the final testing ground to ensure that there are no critical graphical or gameplay concerns, and to catch any mistakes or omissions in the XML. Beta maps are not completely finished: It is possible that gameplay, graphics or the XML may need to be altered and tweaked in order to add further clarity and perfection to the map. The cartographer(s) must be willing to engage in updating their map, and if any bugs or imbalances that are found they must be attended to in a timely manner by the cartographer(s) or other people designated to fix and alleviate any issues that arise.


Not saying it will happen to your map, I just want that you are well aware about the possibility.

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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [16 Dec 2011]

Postby ISN2 on Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:43 am

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   <!-- Istanbul -->
   <continent>
      <name>Esenler</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Mumcu Mh.</territory>
         <territory>50. Yil Mh.</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
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      <name>Gaziosmanpasa</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
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         <territory>Mevlana Mh.</territory>
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      <name>Besiktas</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Kagithane</territory>
         <territory>Besiktas</territory>
         <territory>Etiler Mh.</territory>
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      <name>Beyoglu</name>
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         <territory>Yildiz Sarayi</territory>
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         <territory>164. Yil Polis Hatira Ormani</territory>
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby ISN2 on Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:48 am

thenobodies80 wrote:
ISN2 wrote:As for the fold I already discussed it, if it's not cool, let me know to remove it like what the map was before it, about changing the placement of names told by isaiah40, I will do that too as soon as I get a final to do list from blue guys ...


I can confirm to you that from our part the only concerns are about the fold. In addition what Isaiah40 has already suggested to you here. Everything else looks ready to go. ;)

In any case, since for you this one is the first map to reach the beta stage and you talked about a final to-do list, let me state clear that the beta stamp doesn't mean that the map is finished, in fact :

guidelines wrote:Once the gameplay, graphics and XML stamps have been awarded, and the Foundry Foreman deems the map ready; your map will enter the Beta phase. This stage is the final testing ground to ensure that there are no critical graphical or gameplay concerns, and to catch any mistakes or omissions in the XML. Beta maps are not completely finished: It is possible that gameplay, graphics or the XML may need to be altered and tweaked in order to add further clarity and perfection to the map. The cartographer(s) must be willing to engage in updating their map, and if any bugs or imbalances that are found they must be attended to in a timely manner by the cartographer(s) or other people designated to fix and alleviate any issues that arise.


Not saying it will happen to your map, I just want that you are well aware about the possibility.

Nobodies

Thanks for letting me know final changes, and yes I know it may be needed to change in Beta stage, no problems with that O:)

DiM wrote:
ISN2 wrote:I want a final list of TODOs for this map, I'm tired of making changes and then someone thinks hey let's change the other thing too, this was a contest and was supposed to have the winning map a few changes if required, Not completely changing everything ...


that's not how map making works.

judging by the lack of interest shown by the map maker and his perception of the map making process depicted in the quote above i think it would be best to see this map binned

And however I thought, I could not see a way to not saying thanks to you for your warm support, so thanks for your warm support :!:
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Re: World Cities Contest - Istanbul [15 Nov 2011]

Postby DiM on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:19 am

ISN2 wrote:
DiM wrote:
ISN2 wrote:I want a final list of TODOs for this map, I'm tired of making changes and then someone thinks hey let's change the other thing too, this was a contest and was supposed to have the winning map a few changes if required, Not completely changing everything ...


that's not how map making works.

judging by the lack of interest shown by the map maker and his perception of the map making process depicted in the quote above i think it would be best to see this map binned

And however I thought, I could not see a way to not saying thanks to you for your warm support, so thanks for your warm support :!:


like it or not my post had the desired effect of motivating you to finally do an update.
it's not the first time i spread tough love around the foundry and in most cases it works.
so your thanks are accepted:P
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