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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby s3xt0y on Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:12 pm

I'm just throwing it out there as an option, i really dont know how it would play out to be honest. It would be a lot longer of a game thats for sure and it would open up other possibilites of win options...
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby DiM on Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:15 pm

1v1 would surely suffer from such a change. games would last much longer, they would probably lead to more stalemates and generally speaking they would not provide as much fun as now
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:17 pm

Of course, this is beta, so I don't see why we can't give it a shot ;) Though I think I want to get the neutrals more squared away.

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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby s3xt0y on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:08 pm

Where are we on that?
Victor Sullivan wrote:Of course, this is beta, so I don't see why we can't give it a shot ;) Though I think I want to get the neutrals more squared away.

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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:16 pm

s3xt0y wrote:Where are we on that?
Victor Sullivan wrote:Of course, this is beta, so I don't see why we can't give it a shot ;) Though I think I want to get the neutrals more squared away.

-Sully

I wanna play a few more 1v1 speeders, but I have an idea of what changes I will make.

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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby DiM on Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:42 pm

could you also do something about the dice on this map? i'm getting trashed out there. make it at least +5% for the mapmaker and i'll be grateful :)
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:45 pm

DiM wrote:could you also do something about the dice on this map? i'm getting trashed out there. make it at least +5% for the mapmaker and i'll be grateful :)

Shhhhh... :-$

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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby s3xt0y on Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:42 pm

lol, you know the map tho
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby nebsmith on Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:00 pm

To get round the problem of one team or player getting a safe drop because they are the only ones who can hit the Alien or Human Tech level 1 while being able to disrupt the other Tech level 1, you could try the following:

Have tier 2 of the Level one Techs able to assault or bombard each other, I would go with bombard.
Or have the DNA labs and Nukes able to Bombard the Tech level 1 of the Tech type that they can assault.
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:05 pm

nebsmith wrote:To get round the problem of one team or player getting a safe drop because they are the only ones who can hit the Alien or Human Tech level 1 while being able to disrupt the other Tech level 1, you could try the following:

Have tier 2 of the Level one Techs able to assault or bombard each other, I would go with bombard.
Or have the DNA labs and Nukes able to Bombard the Tech level 1 of the Tech type that they can assault.

I like the (bolded) suggestion.

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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby s3xt0y on Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:33 pm

Instead of that, can we go with the first tier of tech level two can assault up the chain to level 1? That way your bonus is protected for at least a round
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:35 pm

s3xt0y wrote:Instead of that, can we go with the first tier of tech level two can assault up the chain to level 1? That way your bonus is protected for at least a round

What do you mean? I'm not quite following :?

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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby s3xt0y on Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:53 pm

tbio can attack up to vats. That way there are a few more neutrals in the way to protect your bonus.
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:13 pm

Alrighty, so s3xt0y and I talked over some things in our Speeder, and I think this would be a good optimization of the neutral set-ups we've tried out:
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This is in addition to Tech Level 2 row 1 being able to one-way assault Tech Level 1 row 2. This should help those unbalanced Doubles games a bit. Thanks s3xt0y for suggesting this!

Here's the XML to go with the update if you like it, DiM. Just make sure to add in the arrows to reflect the new one-way attacks.

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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby DiM on Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:38 pm

“In the beginning God said, the four-dimensional divergence of an antisymmetric, second rank tensor equals zero, and there was light, and it was good. And on the seventh day he rested.”- Michio Kaku
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:44 pm

Cool. Just a couple nitpicks, though:
  • The arrow @ TGEO isn't centered.
  • The arrows should go from the edge of the tech pair outline to the edge of the troop oval to match the other arrows.
  • I wonder if it would look better to make the new one-way connections yellow and red, to match the colors of their respective Tech Level 2s, much like the other arrows and their Tech Level 3s, if that makes sense.
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby s3xt0y on Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:06 pm

I like it :) this should make things a little more interesting too :)
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby DiM on Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:36 pm

what if i make the arrows with a gradient starting from one colour to another.
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby ManBungalow on Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:51 pm

DiM wrote:what if i make the arrows with a gradient starting from one colour to another.
like so:

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It's good.
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby s3xt0y on Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:45 pm

sweet :)
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:59 pm


Thumbs up!

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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby Swifte on Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:14 am

Neutrals really need to be updated... it's too easy to make an elimination in round 3 or 4 right now...
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby s3xt0y on Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:07 pm

They have been just not uploaded yet
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Re: All Your Base Are Belong To Us

Postby Victor Sullivan on Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:39 pm

Yeah, not sure why it's taking so long :-k

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