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by **gimil** on Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:32 am

I am going to ask that cairnswk and natty_dread take their issues to PM, before this thread spirals into something we don't want to see. I don't really see any bullying in this situation. Just a strong show of opinion. Natty_dread is making some reasonable points that should be reasonable addressed.

Now lets keep this map on track.

Cheers,
gimil

by **cairnswk** on Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:35 am

gimil wrote:I am going to ask that cairnswk and natty_dread take their issues to PM, before this thread spirals into something we don't want to see. I don't really see any bullying in this situation. Just a strong show of opinion. Natty_dread is making some reasonable points that should be reasonable addressed.

Now lets keep this map on track.

Cheers,
gimil

Onya gimil.

by **Flapcake** on Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:51 am

okey dokey, Natty I hear what you say, but I took it really as cairnswk put it, but Gimli you're right that there should be no disc taverns club about how things are said, but focus on the content, so let's just finish it here. :-$

I have gone in another direction and make small strokes instead of dots (I do not like small dots, they look like pimples to be squeezed out) the strokes give it a more anonymous appearance, they are placed on with an iron hand, had no time to greasy it :roll:

v20 [07 Sep 2011]

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by **natty dread** on Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:03 am

The others look good, but why does the one between Djursland/Holbaek have a weird extra curve? Looks like spaghetti...

Also, the length of the dashes doesn't seem to be even... it looks like you drew solid lines and then cut out the dashes with the eraser manually. I think you should ask someone who knows photoshop how to draw evenly spaced dashed lines. GIMP has a tool for stroking paths that lets you stroke them with dashed lines, I'm sure Photoshop has something similar...

Also, why are there two different types of bridges?

by **Flapcake** on Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:29 am

natty_dread wrote:The others look good, but why does the one between Djursland/Holbaek have a weird extra curve? Looks like spaghetti...

Also, the length of the dashes doesn't seem to be even... it looks like you drew solid lines and then cut out the dashes with the eraser manually. I think you should ask someone who knows photoshop how to draw evenly spaced dashed lines. GIMP has a tool for stroking paths that lets you stroke them with dashed lines, I'm sure Photoshop has something similar...

Also, why are there two different types of bridges?

bridges, they are of different lengths, and the short does not look good with bridge pillars. the strokes are made quickly, they will be refined when I know Presis how they should look

by **TaCktiX** on Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:57 am

I will say that I prefer the look of the bridges in the north and southeast of the map. They're simple, matching the style of the map. The others seem overly detailed, not fitting in as a result.

by **koontz1973** on Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:27 pm

TaCktiX wrote:I will say that I prefer the look of the bridges in the north and southeast of the map. They're simple, matching the style of the map. The others seem overly detailed, not fitting in as a result.

Bring all of your smaller bridges like this and make the longer ones with sea routes as you have them now (but nice

). That way you get some more clarity to the map.

Great work.

EDIT: Right now, the only thing that spoils this map for me, is the bonus map. Having it go behind the main map seems overkill when you have more than enough room to make it smaller and fit beside the playing area. Can you make the text smaller and move it more to the right, giving you the room to show the whole frame.

by **gimil** on Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:10 pm

TaCktiX wrote:I will say that I prefer the look of the bridges in the north and southeast of the map. They're simple, matching the style of the map. The others seem overly detailed, not fitting in as a result.

I also agree with this.

by **natty dread** on Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:25 pm

gimil wrote:
TaCktiX wrote:I will say that I prefer the look of the bridges in the north and southeast of the map. They're simple, matching the style of the map. The others seem overly detailed, not fitting in as a result.

I also agree with this.

I also agree with this. Although those bridges should also be redrawn, the lines on them seem a bit chunky.

Speanking of chunky lines, there's several territory borders that could use some attention... here's a few examples -

by **Flapcake** on Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:28 am

Latest updated map: V21 - 08-09-2011
Ship rutes, bridges, legend

the bridges i dont know, but they do seems to fit the map ok, the sail rutes are very nice 8-)

Btw. i postes a "draft" gameplay on Pg 1, need some feedback on that pls :idea:

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by **TaCktiX** on Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:05 am

Much better, supports the clean map rather nicely! I still think that having exclamation points for most explanation is overkill! It's as if we're exceptionally excited about conquering Denmark! And killing those who would possibly stop us! And blood! And glory! And stuff! (that's how the exclamations come across to me, but I might be the only one)

by **natty dread** on Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:19 am

I agree with tacktix!

by **Flapcake** on Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:37 am

TaCktiX wrote:Much better, supports the clean map rather nicely! I still think that having exclamation points for most explanation is overkill! It's as if we're exceptionally excited about conquering Denmark! And killing those who would possibly stop us! And blood! And glory! And stuff! (that's how the exclamations come across to me, but I might be the only one)

we're exceptionally excited about conquering Denmark! :lol:

No your right, i had in mind to remove them, forgot it, thanks for reminding me, they are so gone now.

P.S. pls take a look at pg1 I have posted a draft for the gameplay, need some comments on that, thank you

Flap

by **Flapcake** on Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:17 am

Update: v22 [09 Sep 2011]
smoothed inner borders.

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by **QoH** on Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:53 pm

One thing I'd change is perhaps the lion border on the frame... You can't really tell what they are.

Also, i'd refrain from putting bonus area names on the mini-map, since that just makes it look really cluttered.

One technical (nit-picky) thing I'd change is replacing "passable attack ways" with "attack routes."

Bridges look good, as do the sea routes.

Great work!