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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta] update 01/01-12 pg. 25

Postby natty dread on Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:05 pm

I think a good solution would be 4 cities objective and +2 autodeploy per city.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta] update 01/01-12 pg. 25

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:46 am

I know the temptation is to try and rush into these things flap, but it would be best to take some time and look at all the options. Both nobodies and natty make good points. The +3 is to high, and maybe the +2 is as well. A good drop and you might grab a city on the first round and just keep it giving you extra troops. It might be an idea to drop it to 4 cities and keep the +1 auto, and if that does not move things along as you wish, drop it to 3 cities with the +1, then we can go to 4 with +2. You have lots of time in the beta to get these things right so no need to make rash judgements.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta] update 01/01-12 pg. 25

Postby Flapcake on Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:55 am

koontz1973 wrote:Both nobodies and natty make good points.


Yes, very good points and your rigth I might rush this some :|

Why Im giving it some time to get more comment and time to think, also many of the multi playes games havent even finish yet and still to see how they turn out

(what can I say, its my baby and I want a good start for it :roll: )
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta] update 01/01-12 pg. 25

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:09 am

Flapcake wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:Both nobodies and natty make good points.


Yes, very good points and your rigth I might rush this some :|

Why Im giving it some time to get more comment and time to think, also many of the multi playes games havent even finish yet and still to see how they turn out

(what can I say, its my baby and I want a good start for it :roll: )


I know the feeling.

The 1v1 games have always had the tendency to not go for neutrals so you can discount them some. The other thing to remember with 3 cities, if I get a good drop by any 3 that you are not to close to, I could grab them in round 1 and win in round 2.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta] update 01/01-12 pg. 25

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:46 pm

natty dread wrote:I think a good solution would be 4 cities objective and +2 autodeploy per city.


So, after a month...what are your thoughts about this option?

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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta] update 01/01-12 pg. 25

Postby Flapcake on Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:08 pm

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natty dread wrote:I think a good solution would be 4 cities objective and +2 autodeploy per city.


So, after a month...what are your thoughts about this option?

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The current winning condiction are rearly been used as it is now, it seem to be more random or by chance than as a tactic to go for victory by holding 5 cities.
It was one of the main thoughts around the gameplay that this solution was to figth for, now it seem that players chose the easy win and then the cuttent condiction dont have any present.

Therefor I would like to try out nattys suggestion, 4 cities objective and +2 autodeploy per city.

I will prepare the graphic and PM koontz for the XML changing. when done you get a PM from me.

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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby thenobodies80 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:13 pm

Perfect, looking forward to it! ;)

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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby SirSebstar on Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:27 pm

question, why the objective at all. the map is fun, even if the drop can be totally unsettling.
can't the objective simply be removed? i see no need for it with this map
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby Flapcake on Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:24 pm

SirSebstar wrote:question, why the objective at all. the map is fun, even if the drop can be totally unsettling.
can't the objective simply be removed? i see no need for it with this map



Thx for your comment SirSebstar, your point are serious.

Well yes the objective could be remeoved, but is was never my idea with this map from the start, it was to have serval options for victory, also with the suggestion by natty I think its an improvment, with out the condiction its a map strait ahead, nothing wrong with that, but I wanted a map where you are forced to think strategic and not just throw the dice blindfolded.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby koontz1973 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:08 pm

Will get you the xml done by tonight.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby koontz1973 on Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:41 am

New xml. 4 cities required to win and a =2 auto deploy on all 5 cities now included.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/1/27/3255536//finlandv2.xml
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby Flapcake on Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:04 am

koontz1973 wrote:New xml. 4 cities required to win and a =2 auto deploy on all 5 cities now included.


Super, thx Koontz

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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:53 am

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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby thenobodies80 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:29 am

Updated!
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby Flapcake on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:41 am

thenobodies80 wrote:Updated!



Thx tb80, looks greate :)
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby chapcrap on Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:17 am

I like the latest gameplay update. I'll probably play the map more because of it.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby Flapcake on Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:34 am

chapcrap wrote:I like the latest gameplay update. I'll probably play the map more because of it.



Thx chapcrap :)
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby Mightor on Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:27 am

Finally the map of Denmark came forward - very much wanted and valued - great work, dudes :-)
I have created some foggy maps and I discovered that it is shown to all players which player has captured which shield. I think the idea of a foggy game is missed, then. Could you do anything about that, pls.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:35 am

Looked at your games and do you mean in the game log it shows the deployment of 2 for holding a shield? If you do, then nothing can be done as this is the way the log works.

If not, can you give a game number and clearer description of what it is so I can look into it.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby Mightor on Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:06 am

I this game I can see that yellow has 2 shields - in other games I see other players conquerrings of shields.
I wonder if the other players may see the same picture as I do ?

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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:56 am

You see that yellow has 2 shields, but which ones? The game log will always tell you how many troops each player gets, but not what territories each player gets. As koontz said, there is nothing that can be done about it. Plus I see you are using BOB, and as far as I know BOB doesn't show you which player has which city in foggy games.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby natty dread on Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:56 am

I just now noticed a small graphical flaw: the dark inner glow of the land area seems to be missing between randers / viborg.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby Flapcake on Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:57 am

natty dread wrote:I just now noticed a small graphical flaw: the dark inner glow of the land area seems to be missing between randers / viborg.



Its no flaw, its made like that on on purpose, its a river/impassable
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby natty dread on Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:32 am

"It's not a bug, it's a feature", right? ;)

The thing is, since it's the only "river" on the map, there's really no context to separate rivers from other bodies of water, so it just looks like another piece of water... so it'd be good if it was consistent with the other waters.
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Re: Kingdom of Denmark [Beta]

Postby Flapcake on Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:24 am

"It's not a bug, it's a feature" Yes your rigth ;)

We are here in the category of taste and "cant take my eyes away details" in reality the water dont comes down that far in that area, but for the gameplay some impasable was needed, and what was more natural that make the "river/water" extended, therefor it looks like it does, I just didten added the white line to it, not by any fault but it was just the way I draw it.

If the foundry are upset of the missing sea foam, Im happy to add it, no sweat ;)
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