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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby Jippd on Wed May 02, 2012 4:01 pm

I can definitely see the difference. **NOTE** I'm not color blind. To me I am fine with how it is. I was only merely offering the suggestion since it was a solution to avoid having two browns next to each other.
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby RedBaron0 on Thu May 03, 2012 2:37 am

Yeah it is awfully close... A whole sale flip of colors might be best, say E Skyland for AC? A red right next to green is just gonna look virtually identical to the color blinded in most cases. But if you can fiddle with the hues some more and make it work, that'll be fine too.
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby Tisha on Thu May 03, 2012 11:29 am

so you're telling me that I have to switch colors around so that in the colorblind image two "browns" are not next to each other... even though they are noticeably different?

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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu May 03, 2012 12:48 pm

I am not sure I'd say the colors are 'noticeably' different, as I don't think they are 'remarkably' different as is in the definition of noticeable. The 'Gateway' bonus zones probably fall under noticeably different, however.


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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby Jippd on Thu May 03, 2012 1:55 pm

I'm not familiar with the effort that goes into map making but how hard is it to change the background colors? Is it like in microsoft paint where you click the fill bucket and can just click the region to change the color and then save the background as an underlaid texture?
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby chaos32679 on Thu May 03, 2012 4:40 pm

its not difficult, but pointless imo. yes, the colors are similar, but they are able to be differentiated (prob spelled that wrong lol) between, and i assumed thats all that was needed, correct? the whole map could be different shades of brown, but if the regions can be told apart from each other then whats the difference?

if its gonna hold the map back then we'll obviously make a change, but if its not lets close the book on this...
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby DiM on Thu May 03, 2012 4:43 pm

if it's easy to do and it helps the map look better then why not simply do it?
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby chaos32679 on Thu May 03, 2012 4:52 pm

DiM wrote:if it's easy to do and it helps the map look better then why not simply do it?


i dont think it will make the map look better, i kinda like the colors right where they are...

to each his own i guess...
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby isaiah40 on Thu May 03, 2012 8:08 pm

I ran the small through vischeck and these are the results:
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As you can see the Atlantic City and Delaware River on the Deuteranope result, the playable area colors are close together, while on the minimap, you can see the difference.
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby Tisha on Thu May 03, 2012 10:26 pm

This is the current image.. I did adjust them the page before..
and they are not in the 1st page update, because I wanted to check if this was a good enough change.

Tisha wrote:I effed with them.. I think they are more obvious than they previously were

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Tisha wrote:so you're telling me that I have to switch colors around so that in the colorblind image two "browns" are not next to each other... even though they are noticeably different?

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I'd say it's not the same image you are working with Isaiah40
isaiah40 wrote:I ran the small through vischeck and these are the results:
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As you can see the Atlantic City and Delaware River on the Deuteranope result, the playable area colors are close together, while on the minimap, you can see the difference.


The colors are where I want them for a reason, they aren't randomly placed.. and they are easy to change, but there isn't a reason to change them.. other than someone doesn't like two "brown" colorblind colors next to each other..

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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby chaos32679 on Fri May 04, 2012 7:11 am

I updated the first post with the new large and small images, and the colorblind one...
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby y2manypbr on Fri May 04, 2012 11:00 am

Hello, I am just one color blind guy giving his opinion. There are different people with different color limitations but here is how I see this map.

Love the map, would play it all day. The boundaries are well defined. the regions are easy for me to see. The regions are easily defined by colors and I can see the key to know the values to the regions. I like the fact you have made key that explains the values for the regions a small map that mirrors the big map. Sometimes this is just in writing hoping the color will be enough to tell you the value. Your map makes this very easy.

As for the red/green area, nice job with a boundary. Generally if there is a boundary you can see the difference. the best example is a stop sign. They place the white around the stop sign to highlight the red. Otherwise if there is a tree behind the sign it would just be gone. I can see a cardinal (a red bird) and it looks red, it flies into a tree and the red is gone, looks just like a drab bird. So, nice job, easy to see. Better than the different shades of a same color.

Again, this is just one color blind guy but this map looks very friendly for me to play!
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby chaos32679 on Fri May 04, 2012 12:16 pm

Thanks for the reply here in response to my PM, much appreciated!
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby isaiah40 on Sun May 06, 2012 8:02 am

Onward and upward!!
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.01.2012, p13]

Postby chaos32679 on Mon May 07, 2012 5:14 pm

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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.07.2012, p14, XML]

Postby chaos32679 on Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:53 pm

XML posted a month ago foundry people, maybe someone could look at it sometime? That would be swell...

I know i'm a mapmaking virgin, but a month seems a little excessive to check a few lines of code... Just sayin...
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.07.2012, p14, XML]

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:50 am

Look forward to this, and hope to see it moving along soon.


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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.07.2012, p14, XML]

Postby Anthrax821 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:06 pm

snore...
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 05.07.2012, p14, XML]

Postby isaiah40 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:16 pm

Sorry for the long delay.

I have checked the XML and the small looks good. The large on the other hand has three minor things to be fixed.
1 - Elizabeth, move the name up a bit as there will be a problem with the double digits plus color code covering the name.
2 - Atlantic City, the coordinates need to be moved down and to the left a tad bit, and lastly
3 - Wildwood can be moved a tad bit to the left.

Get these done, post the test results here and we can finally get this stamped!
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 06.10.2012, p15, XML Fixes]

Postby chaos32679 on Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:28 pm

*** UPDATE ***

Made XML/Graphics corrections requested above. New files/images below, and in first post of thread...

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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 06.10.2012, p15, XML Fixes]

Postby Anthrax821 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:17 pm

so now that this is updated do i get to wait another month in a half for someone to say "it looks like two of the pines trees are bending and mays landing should be centered" and then wait another month?
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 06.10.2012, p15, XML Fixes]

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:13 pm

Anthrax821 wrote:so now that this is updated do i get to wait another month in a half for someone to say "it looks like two of the pines trees are bending and mays landing should be centered" and then wait another month?

1. I like the bending trees. This map has a bit of whimsy to it. ;)
2. I don't think the name needs to be centered, but I don't really care either way.

The only thing graphical element about the map I am not as fond of are the mountains since they don't quite fit the style of execution you have going with the cow and the bridge and trees and the bird, etc, but they're good enough probably.

I didn't think I'd want to play on a New Jersey map when development first started, but I'd probably add this map to my rotation.


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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 06.10.2012, p15, XML Fixes]

Postby Anthrax821 on Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:52 pm

our grocery store have plenty of bannannas andy....
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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 06.10.2012, p15, XML Fixes]

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:40 pm

You've come a long way! I remember looking at the very first version of this.


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Re: New Jersey [UPDATE 06.10.2012, p15, XML Fixes]

Postby squishyg on Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:56 pm

This is really coming along! I like the 1950s beach couple. It fits in well with the postcard theme.
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