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Re: 1982 [09/2] Page 1 & 28

Postby thehippo8 on Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:41 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Would it cause a problem if I made it the same as the British side?


Funny, I was going to suggest that - there's nothing majic int he British background colour other than it makes for a good contrast with planes and the ensign!
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Page 1 & 29

Postby koontz1973 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:02 pm

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    They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old
    Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn
    At the going down of the sun and in the morning
    We will remember them

Adapted from "For the Fallen" by Laurence Binyon
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show: British KIA

show: Argentine KIA

show: Islander KIA

show: Timeline

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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:16 pm

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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:53 pm

I can't read the letters in the legend at all. It's not so much that they are small (I understand there's a lot of information to put into a small area) but they seem fuzzy, as if someone airbrushed over top of them. Is there some way to improve the clarity?
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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:18 am

Dukasaur wrote:I can't read the letters in the legend at all. It's not so much that they are small (I understand there's a lot of information to put into a small area) but they seem fuzzy, as if someone airbrushed over top of them. Is there some way to improve the clarity?

The letters/font are what they are. There is no effects in the small (unlike the large). I think this should improve them a bit but unless I get room, I cannot get them any better.

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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:48 am

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Dukasaur wrote:I can't read the letters in the legend at all. It's not so much that they are small (I understand there's a lot of information to put into a small area) but they seem fuzzy, as if someone airbrushed over top of them. Is there some way to improve the clarity?

The letters/font are what they are. There is no effects in the small (unlike the large). I think this should improve them a bit but unless I get room, I cannot get them any better.

Yeah, it's the large that I'm talking about, and yes, the effects. See, when I blow it up I can see clearly exactly what is what:
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You've airbrushed around the letters. At high zoom like this, it looks very nice, but at normal resolution it's just a blur. The "3rd regiment" looks like it could be "Grd regiment" and the "6th regiment" I couldn't make out at all until I borrowed my wife's glasses. Without them the "6" looked like a "0" because the top arm of the "6" completely merged into the round bottom part.
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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:03 am

Duckasaur, honestly, on the large, I cannot see the problem you are referring to. Not being dishonest here but really? The effect was put in as a request from some of the other map makers, taken out from the small but asked to keep it in the large. If it does prove to be a huge issue, I will remove it ASAP, but right now I will keep it but tone it down some more. If that does not work and someone else says the same thing as you (anyone) I will remove it completely.
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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:57 pm

koontz1973 wrote:Duckasaur, honestly, on the large, I cannot see the problem you are referring to. Not being dishonest here but really? The effect was put in as a request from some of the other map makers, taken out from the small but asked to keep it in the large. If it does prove to be a huge issue, I will remove it ASAP, but right now I will keep it but tone it down some more. If that does not work and someone else says the same thing as you (anyone) I will remove it completely.

Sorry, man. Maybe I'm just old and I need new eyes. I was just discussing the other day that I can't read the subtitles on foreign movies any more either. To me the legend is just a blur, but if I really am the only one then you're perfectly right; you can't jump through hoops just for one person.

Still, paradoxically, I can read the small legend on the small version without too much trouble, even though it's smaller, but without the effect.
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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:29 pm

Thanks Duck. Lets see if the problem is an issue. If it is, then, I will sort it.
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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby erazor on Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:06 am

I can read the legends more than OK. When will this one be playable?
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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby natty dread on Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:57 am

Dukasaur wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:Duckasaur, honestly, on the large, I cannot see the problem you are referring to. Not being dishonest here but really? The effect was put in as a request from some of the other map makers, taken out from the small but asked to keep it in the large. If it does prove to be a huge issue, I will remove it ASAP, but right now I will keep it but tone it down some more. If that does not work and someone else says the same thing as you (anyone) I will remove it completely.

Sorry, man. Maybe I'm just old and I need new eyes. I was just discussing the other day that I can't read the subtitles on foreign movies any more either. To me the legend is just a blur, but if I really am the only one then you're perfectly right; you can't jump through hoops just for one person.

Still, paradoxically, I can read the small legend on the small version without too much trouble, even though it's smaller, but without the effect.


Man, you need glasses. Seriously. Go to an optometrist.
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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby Gilligan on Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:16 am

I can definitely see where Dukasaur is going with this...It is a little blurred (at least from my eyes...)
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Re: 1982 [09/2] 30th annivarsery.

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:57 am

Gilligan wrote:I can definitely see where Dukasaur is going with this...It is a little blurred (at least from my eyes...)

It is not blurred. There is a slight glow to it at the same colour. This gives the effect of the spread that the old monitors gave. But as I said to duckie, if any one else sees the problem, it will be solved. Here is my solution. Reducing the effect by 10%. If it is turned of, it looks bloody awful.
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby Gilligan on Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:42 pm

Personally, more legible...But if you don't think it looks as good, then go back to the other one.
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby thehippo8 on Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:29 pm

Gilligan wrote:Personally, more legible...But if you don't think it looks as good, then go back to the other one.


Just to throw my spanner in the works ... I liked the earlier version ... this one is just misses the point for me! :|
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:41 pm

thehippo8 wrote:
Gilligan wrote:Personally, more legible...But if you don't think it looks as good, then go back to the other one.


Just to throw my spanner in the works ... I liked the earlier version ... this one is just misses the point for me! :|

I preferred the older one but if players are going to have trouble reading it, then it needs to be sorted. IMO the older one looked better and was readable, but if players cannot read it, legibility trumps style. That has to be able to be read. Now that that is sorted, lets play some.
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:55 pm

I have to agree with you Koontz!
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby charmir on Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:20 am

How much longer till we get this one?
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby thenobodies80 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:01 am

This is the final small version? http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3006/1982s.png
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:04 am

That looks like it. About six posts before yours with the large and xml.

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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby DiM on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:08 am

sorry to appear so late in the process. i'm not really following the foundry too much lately. but the small map is really bad compared to the large. it's like you completely added noise and then blurred the hell out of everything.
i understand some details are lost when size is reduced but this is ridiculous:

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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby DiM on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:12 am

also the map has no supersize stamp and yet the big image is over the 830*800 dimensions.
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:16 am

DiM, there is late and there is late, this has been sitting here for over two months now waiting for beta. F.off. ;) Ask isaiah40 for it, it was given, just never posted in my thread, so could not put on page one. :roll:

Imageshack strikes again a my files do not match those. Here is a clean version hopefully.
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby DiM on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:22 am

koontz1973 wrote:DiM, there is late and there is late, this has been sitting here for over two months now waiting for beta. F.off. ;)


i don't give a flying f*ck about the foundry anymore but i saw tnb80 putting maps into beta and i wanted to see what's coming. nothing personal.

koontz1973 wrote:Ask isaiah40 for it, it was given, just never posted in my thread, so could not put on page one. :roll:


how was i supposed to know that? keep your first post updated with all stamps and it will be fine.

koontz1973 wrote:Imageshack strikes again a my files do not match those. Here is a clean version hopefully.
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this looks much crisper. see? i may have been late but i caused good changes :mrgreen:
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Re: 1982 [09/2] Beta?

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:28 am

isaiah40 wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:At one place, there is four rims vertical so to include the frame (5), that is a total of 25 pixels. I really do not want to go larger, but isaiah gave some extra pixels on the understanding that it was for text. Will ask if I can use that for larger borders. That should be enough to give the frame a larger feel to it, then I can space the middle ones out some.

We will allow you up 880x845 on the large and 670x643 on the small. This should give you enough room.


The stamp was never given but here is his post from page 18.

i don't give a flying f*ck about the foundry anymore but i saw tnb80 putting maps into beta and i wanted to see what's coming. nothing personal.

You not see the smilie, was being ironic but obviously failed.
this looks much crisper. see? i may have been late but i caused good changes :mrgreen:

There was no change. Not touched the file for well over a month now. I bet nobodies comes back with the same gripes as you and they have all been sorted. :D
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