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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby isaiah40 on Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:01 pm

Everything IMO is looking pretty solid, but I have a couple of gameplay things that need to be cleared up. In the legend describing the attack/bombardment of the ships. I think you should move the Enemies=Opposing nation to ship attack/bombard description. That way no one has to look all over the map to see what constitutes enemy ships. Something like this:
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Also I'm thinking that when you do the small you will have problems with the legend area as a whole. Since you have some room at the bottom of the playable area of the map, shuffle the ARA ships and names around and increase the size of the legend height-wise. With the moving of the Enemy=Opposing nation, you can increase the font size a bit so that it will be readable on the small.
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:33 am

isaiah40 wrote:Everything IMO is looking pretty solid, but I have a couple of gameplay things that need to be cleared up. In the legend describing the attack/bombardment of the ships. I think you should move the Enemies=Opposing nation to ship attack/bombard description. That way no one has to look all over the map to see what constitutes enemy ships. Something like this:

I also have the reference to the enemy planes in the air force section. If I use your suggestion, then logically I need to put it there as well. As people normally read from left to right, if I put the rules of engagement on the left of the legend so this is going to be what most people read first, it should solve the problem. Either that, I need to place it with the airforces.
isaiah40 wrote:Also I'm thinking that when you do the small you will have problems with the legend area as a whole. Since you have some room at the bottom of the playable area of the map, shuffle the ARA ships and names around and increase the size of the legend height-wise. With the moving of the Enemy=Opposing nation, you can increase the font size a bit so that it will be readable on the small.

I have got extra room for the legend in the small by using the sea territs at the top of the board, airforce strip and some pixels in the large legend. So the small legend will take up a bigger percentage of the map (not much more, between 5-10%)) but with so many different parts of the legend (each draft has gotten more rules added to it), this is the only way to squeeze it all in without applying for a larger small version which is not what I would like to do. Let me get the small legend made up today for you to see what I mean.
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:28 am

Here is the small legend with the above change of moving the rules of engagement to the left.
It needs a little work to make nice but with the text at 8 pixels, it seems pretty clear without being overly small and hard to read. This image for the small legend is 189 pixels high compared to the large maps 219 pixels. I can get the extra room from the top and bottom of the map where the land and sea territs are extra large. So the map will still look identical apart from the top which would look a little smaller on the small map.
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Do I need to still move the opposing nation/player to the navel and air force parts of the legend?
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:33 am

I believe that should work as the Enemy=Opposing force would be remembered as the rest is read. Can you post the small and large so I can see them please?
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby pamoa on Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:05 am

question
what is the bombardement range of submarines
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:13 am

pamoa wrote:question
what is the bombardement range of submarines

They can bombard the whole fleet.
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:18 am

Large map.
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Small map.
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As you can see, not much of a dent into the small map as I was only getting the spacing sorted out before continuing.
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:32 am

Thank you, I think that will work, so get back to work!! :P
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:35 am

Cheers, will do.
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:10 pm

Here is the new legend layout. Will get on and do the small map if stamped now. ;)
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Re: 1982 [14/11] Latest image Page 1/8

Postby isaiah40 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:31 pm

If anyone has any gameplay concerns/suggestions/ideas, speak up now as I am thinking of stamping this is the next 48 hours.
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby pamoa on Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:12 pm

koontz1973 wrote:
pamoa wrote:question
what is the bombardement range of submarines

They can bombard the whole fleet.

It is what I thought but you have to complete your legend saying
can bombard ANY ennemy ship
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Re: 1982 [14/11] Latest image Page 1/8

Postby tokle on Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:17 pm

it still reads that aircraft can bombard enemy navel forces.
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Re: 1982 [13/11] Latest image Page 1/7

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:24 pm

pamoa wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:
pamoa wrote:question
what is the bombardement range of submarines

They can bombard the whole fleet.

It is what I thought but you have to complete your legend saying
can bombard ANY ennemy ship

Will add "all"
tokle wrote:it still reads that aircraft can bombard enemy navel forces.

Will change.

EDIT: Done.
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Re: 1982 [14/11] Latest image Page 1/8

Postby lostatlimbo on Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:18 pm

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