Island of Doom

by **thenobodies80** on Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:19 pm

http://zimmah.webs.com/islandofdoomv2.1.xml
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250 ... om-L-1.png
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250 ... om-S-1.png

The map was updated!

by **AndyDufresne** on Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:42 pm

I think this is a new favorite map for us admins to play one another on.

I think the double objective adds a lot of fun to the map.

--Andy

by **chapcrap** on Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:58 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I think this is a new favorite map for us admins to play one another on. I think the double objective adds a lot of fun to the map.

--Andy

I love admin on admin action.

by **zimmah** on Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:08 pm

chapcrap wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:I think this is a new favorite map for us admins to play one another on. I think the double objective adds a lot of fun to the map.

--Andy

I love admin on admin action.

2012-03-16 19:56:14 - D00MandD3A7H received 2 troops for holding Two Temples with Four Villages
2012-03-16 19:56:14 - D00MandD3A7H received 4 troops for holding Two Temples with Eight Villages

i think i made an error somewhere.

i think i should add overrides so that holding 2 temples and 8/12 villages as well as 3 temples and 8/12 villages override their lower counterparts, i must have forgotten to do that :oops:

by **DiM** on Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:11 pm

zimmah wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:I think this is a new favorite map for us admins to play one another on. I think the double objective adds a lot of fun to the map.

--Andy

I love admin on admin action.

2012-03-16 19:56:14 - D00MandD3A7H received 2 troops for holding Two Temples with Four Villages
2012-03-16 19:56:14 - D00MandD3A7H received 4 troops for holding Two Temples with Eight Villages

i think i made an error somewhere.

yep you did.
shouldn't the bigger bonus override the smaller one?

i mean you get 1 troop for 1T+4V and 2 troops for 2T+4V but 2T+4V overrides 1T+4V.
so the first line should not exist. D00M should get just 4 troops for 2T+8V

by **zimmah** on Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:28 pm

fixed it, added more overrides

http://zimmah.webs.com/islandofdoomv2.2.xml

also sent to nobodies.

by **thenobodies80** on Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:44 pm

And I sent it to the turtle

by **Hugiboo** on Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:45 pm

Just started a game with no spoils. This map needs more reinforcements.

by **AndyDufresne** on Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:10 pm

Hugiboo wrote:Just started a game with no spoils. This map needs more reinforcements.

I can see how for large player games (which your game seems to be) the amount of Villages available for conquering, and the bonus associated with those, probably takes a while to get bonuses going.

But for the 3 player games that I've been playing, the amount of available bonuses I think is pretty fine.

DiM could look into having some sort of partial bonus for say the Antenna, but not sure that would help much or if I'd really want it either.

--Andy

by **DoomYoshi** on Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:17 pm

Hugiboo wrote:Just started a game with no spoils. This map needs more reinforcements.

Just focus on Dre or Viruga... easy to get a bonus that way.

by **AndyDufresne** on Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:38 am

I'm quite satisfied with this map, from the 3 games I've played on it so far.

--Andy

by **chapcrap** on Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:31 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I'm quite satisfied with this map, from the 3 games I've played on it so far.

--Andy

I nominate DiM for a special medal. You sir, just satisfied an admin.

by **DiM** on Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:09 pm

chapcrap wrote:I nominate DiM for a special medal. You sir, just satisfied an admin.

this sounds totally wrong and perverse :lol:

by **Unbathed** on Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:04 pm

The two territories Gijan and Kilod are the only access points for a 22-terrirtory region. Is there a precedent?

by **DiM** on Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:02 am

Unbathed wrote:The two territories Gijan and Kilod are the only access points for a 22-terrirtory region. Is there a precedent?

lol, i don't know, does it have to be?
chockepoints/bottlenecks can and will always have a great strategic value.

by **AndyDufresne** on Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:46 am

DiM wrote:
Unbathed wrote:The two territories Gijan and Kilod are the only access points for a 22-terrirtory region. Is there a precedent?

lol, i don't know, does it have to be?
chockepoints/bottlenecks can and will always have a great strategic value.

I don't think I can recall any other precedents from maps with 60-80 regions. I don't think this has come up as an issue in the few games I played, anyone else?

--Andy

by **eddie2** on Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:18 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
DiM wrote:
Unbathed wrote:The two territories Gijan and Kilod are the only access points for a 22-terrirtory region. Is there a precedent?

lol, i don't know, does it have to be?
chockepoints/bottlenecks can and will always have a great strategic value.

I don't think I can recall any other precedents from maps with 60-80 regions. I don't think this has come up as an issue in the few games I played, anyone else?

--Andy

na there is no problem with that i feel because there is 22 regions but while fighting to get that area you are getting wiped out of everywhere else in fog this can be dangerous because of the volcano objective.

by **DiM** on Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:29 pm

actually i just checked and there are several maps with huge regions that lead to a chockepoint.
extreme global warming is split in half by 3 terits. indochina has a 2 terit bottle neck. new world has a 2 terit bottle neck too.
all the maps in the usa map pack have 2 terit bottle necks where you can hold 20-50% of the map.

so there are plenty of other maps where chokepoints exist. but in all cases we're talking about large areas of land and if somebody gets to hold that entire area and protect it from the chokepoint then it's the fault of the other players for allowing him. it's not like somebody has a lucky drop and holds the entire area from the start.
don't get me wrong it's not impossible, it's just improbable. something like having the entire asia from the drop on classic map.

by **chapcrap** on Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:30 pm

DiM wrote: new world has a 2 terit bottle neck too.

I don't have a problem with Doom, but I don't think this is true. Where is said bottle neck?

by **DiM** on Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:56 am

chapcrap wrote:
DiM wrote: new world has a 2 terit bottle neck too.

I don't have a problem with Doom, but I don't think this is true. Where is said bottle neck?

mapuche 5 + aztec 9
hold all of south america and you can simply protect it from those 2 terits.

by **koontz1973** on Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:30 am

DiM wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
DiM wrote: new world has a 2 terit bottle neck too.

I don't have a problem with Doom, but I don't think this is true. Where is said bottle neck?

mapuche 5 + aztec 9
hold all of south america and you can simply protect it from those 2 terits.

You forgot the two ports which makes it 4 territs to hold.

by **DiM** on Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:39 am

oops

by **zimmah** on Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:48 pm

classic has several bottlenecks too, it only requires you to hold several continents, so usually by the time you hold that, the game is over anyway. (for example when you hold both Asia and Oceania, or Both Americas, or even Europe and Africa).

bottlenecks don't have to be bad per se, they add a bit of fun to the game, otherwise it'd be too symmetric.

by **Swimmerdude99** on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:48 pm

I don't mind this map at all. In fact I love it as is and hope it remains that way. WELL done sir

by **Swimmerdude99** on Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:47 pm

However... I do have another comment... There really is no incentive whatsoever to take the volcano to win the game, because the military base comes with a 1+ autodeploy... maybe you should have something similar on the valcanoe? or maye make it a 3 nuetral instead of 5...