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Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:30 am
by koontz1973
DiM wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
DiM wrote: new world has a 2 terit bottle neck too.

I don't have a problem with Doom, but I don't think this is true. Where is said bottle neck?


mapuche 5 + aztec 9
hold all of south america and you can simply protect it from those 2 terits.

You forgot the two ports which makes it 4 territs to hold.

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:39 am
by DiM
oops 8-[

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:48 pm
by zimmah
classic has several bottlenecks too, it only requires you to hold several continents, so usually by the time you hold that, the game is over anyway. (for example when you hold both Asia and Oceania, or Both Americas, or even Europe and Africa).

bottlenecks don't have to be bad per se, they add a bit of fun to the game, otherwise it'd be too symmetric.

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:48 pm
by swimmerdude99
I don't mind this map at all. In fact I love it as is and hope it remains that way. WELL done sir

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:47 pm
by swimmerdude99
However... I do have another comment... There really is no incentive whatsoever to take the volcano to win the game, because the military base comes with a 1+ autodeploy... maybe you should have something similar on the valcanoe? or maye make it a 3 nuetral instead of 5...

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:08 pm
by zimmah
location plays a factor too.

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:17 pm
by DiM
zimmah wrote:location plays a factor too.

qft

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:18 pm
by TheRedSnifit
swimmerdude99 wrote:However... I do have another comment... There really is no incentive whatsoever to take the volcano to win the game, because the military base comes with a 1+ autodeploy... maybe you should have something similar on the valcanoe? or maye make it a 3 nuetral instead of 5...


Actually, I think it'd be the opposite. The base is harder to take, considering how you have to go through several killer neutrals to get to it, and has no additional bonuses aside from the auto-deploy. Keep in mind that you can only assault in one direction from it, so the extra troop will likely be defense-exclusive.

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:21 pm
by TheRedSnifit
Also, the military base is geographically one-sided. Players in the north only have one "infected" area to go through, while everyone else has to go through three or four.

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:27 am
by AndyDufresne
TheRedSnifit wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:However... I do have another comment... There really is no incentive whatsoever to take the volcano to win the game, because the military base comes with a 1+ autodeploy... maybe you should have something similar on the valcanoe? or maye make it a 3 nuetral instead of 5...


Actually, I think it'd be the opposite. The base is harder to take, considering how you have to go through several killer neutrals to get to it, and has no additional bonuses aside from the auto-deploy. Keep in mind that you can only assault in one direction from it, so the extra troop will likely be defense-exclusive.


In the games I've played, people have been more likely to go after the Military Base than Volcano, so far.


--Andy

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:49 pm
by swimmerdude99
TheRedSnifit wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:However... I do have another comment... There really is no incentive whatsoever to take the volcano to win the game, because the military base comes with a 1+ autodeploy... maybe you should have something similar on the valcanoe? or maye make it a 3 nuetral instead of 5...


Actually, I think it'd be the opposite. The base is harder to take, considering how you have to go through several killer neutrals to get to it, and has no additional bonuses aside from the auto-deploy. Keep in mind that you can only assault in one direction from it, so the extra troop will likely be defense-exclusive.


No it really isn't harder to take... one troop harder... but valcanoe comes with no bonus, so why try for it in any scenario?

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:51 am
by DiM
swimmerdude99 wrote:
No it really isn't harder to take... one troop harder... but valcanoe comes with no bonus, so why try for it in any scenario?


it's ok as it is now. from the games i've looked at and played there's a pretty balanced share of people going for the volcano or the base. it's hugely dependent on game settings and number of players.
for example in a trench game most people will avoid the base and go just for the volcano.

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:45 am
by AndyDufresne
DiM wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:
No it really isn't harder to take... one troop harder... but valcanoe comes with no bonus, so why try for it in any scenario?


it's ok as it is now. from the games i've looked at and played there's a pretty balanced share of people going for the volcano or the base. it's hugely dependent on game settings and number of players.
for example in a trench game most people will avoid the base and go just for the volcano.

Really? In the trench games I've played, we have went for the base & base area over the volanco! But we could be the anomaly.


--Andy

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:05 pm
by chapcrap
AndyDufresne wrote:
DiM wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:
No it really isn't harder to take... one troop harder... but valcanoe comes with no bonus, so why try for it in any scenario?


it's ok as it is now. from the games i've looked at and played there's a pretty balanced share of people going for the volcano or the base. it's hugely dependent on game settings and number of players.
for example in a trench game most people will avoid the base and go just for the volcano.

Really? In the trench games I've played, we have went for the base & base area over the volanco! But we could be the anomaly.


--Andy

I have to agree with Andy. It seems like you're arguments aren't backed up from what I have seen.

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:28 am
by zimmah
chapcrap wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
DiM wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:
No it really isn't harder to take... one troop harder... but valcanoe comes with no bonus, so why try for it in any scenario?


it's ok as it is now. from the games i've looked at and played there's a pretty balanced share of people going for the volcano or the base. it's hugely dependent on game settings and number of players.
for example in a trench game most people will avoid the base and go just for the volcano.

Really? In the trench games I've played, we have went for the base & base area over the volanco! But we could be the anomaly.


--Andy

I have to agree with Andy. It seems like you're arguments aren't backed up from what I have seen.


Game 10922123

Re: Island of Doom [20.Feb.12] - V15 - p1&13

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:37 am
by AndyDufresne
Maybe the above is the anomaly! haha. :D

I'll continue to play around.


--Andy

Re: Island of Doom

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:18 pm
by thenobodies80
              Quenching

---The Beta period has concluded for the Island of Doom Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready to be released into live play.

Congratulations DiM and Zimmah, your shiny new medals are well-earned =D>


Conquer Club, enjoy!
              Image

thenobodies80

Re: Island of Doom

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:37 pm
by nolefan5311
Congrats DiM

Re: Island of Doom

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:40 pm
by zimmah
nice :)

Re: Island of Doom

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:48 pm
by agentcom
I know this is out of beta, but I've now been in two games where someone suggested a fort or attack from Mus to Qua. No one caught that those two weren't connected. I don't know what it is about those two territs, but for some reason they look connected at least to my sample of me and maybe 5 teammates. Does anyone else have this problem?

2012-05-05 04:29:18 - emporium [team]: I thought there was a link from mus to qua
2012-05-07 14:39:57 - agentcom [team]: emp, I did too

2012-08-11 12:03:13 - Benzorrr [team]: f*ck i cant fort into your bonus
2012-08-11 12:03:18 - Benzorrr [team]: looked at the map wrong
2012-08-11 12:42:43 - agentcom [team]: I have made that mistake, too. Same territs different game. And didn't catch it here either. I don't know why I think they're connected.

Re: Island of Doom

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:01 pm
by DiM
i honestly have no idea why you'd think those are connected.
the paths are very clear and there's obviously no path there.

anyway, this problem should be gone once my maps are removed so no point worrying about it.

Re: Island of Doom

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:01 pm
by IcePack
agentcom wrote:I know this is out of beta, but I've now been in two games where someone suggested a fort or attack from Mus to Qua. No one caught that those two weren't connected. I don't know what it is about those two territs, but for some reason they look connected at least to my sample of me and maybe 5 teammates. Does anyone else have this problem?

2012-05-05 04:29:18 - emporium [team]: I thought there was a link from mus to qua
2012-05-07 14:39:57 - agentcom [team]: emp, I did too

2012-08-11 12:03:13 - Benzorrr [team]: f*ck i cant fort into your bonus
2012-08-11 12:03:18 - Benzorrr [team]: looked at the map wrong
2012-08-11 12:42:43 - agentcom [team]: I have made that mistake, too. Same territs different game. And didn't catch it here either. I don't know why I think they're connected.


I'm not sure why you and the others think its connected. I dont have any troubles seeing that they aren't.
IcePack

Re: Island of Doom

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:17 am
by AndyDufresne
Yeah, they are near each other, and I can see why someone might think they are connected, but I think it is pretty clear on the map.


--Andy

Re: Island of Doom

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:36 pm
by agentcom
Yeah, both times it has happened, I've felt like an idiot. I just thought I'd throw it out there and see if it was a widespread perception. But apparently it's just me :oops:

Re: Island of Doom

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:11 pm
by ManBungalow
Can we redo this thread but without the Supersize stamp?

Even the small map image doesn't fit on my screen in a game and the regions are so far apart.

:cry: